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Phaelax
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Posted: 9th May 2006 05:04
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Gonna load up FreeBSD 6.0 with xfce. Just about to burn the discs when I saw PC BSD on slashdot, so I checked out the website.

http://www.pcbsd.org

Anyone ever used it or know more about it?


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Posted: 9th May 2006 05:36
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Well, I was going to put it on, until I found there was no flash plugin for it. Then I got sad .

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Posted: 9th May 2006 07:09 Edited at: 9th May 2006 07:10
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I now have another os to install on my penta-boot system.

edit: for a distro, that is awefully nice speeds (240kbs)

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Posted: 9th May 2006 19:04
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Figures, I download the cd image files for 6.0 and now 6.1 was released today.


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Posted: 9th May 2006 22:25
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ok dont call me stupid but i still donno wut BSD is. i kno linux and i kno dat bsd is kinda unix..ish and is also an os but what exactly is it or why do ppl like it?

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Posted: 9th May 2006 23:00 Edited at: 9th May 2006 23:11
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Quote: "why do ppl like it?"

We (talking about geeks) fix the working untill it's broken.
We like Linux, BSD, *nix becouse they are working so we can broke them.
We dont like Windows becouse it's already broken.


Im making a lot of sense, am I?

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I would give this a try, but using this as a Desktop would be more like comparing the Desktop environments and their integration, wouldnt it? I would be more interested about the Kernel and core utilities performance compared to GNU/Linux and other Unix -like operating systems.

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Posted: 10th May 2006 01:28
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Think of BSD as Berkeley's Unix distro.

BSD = Berkely Software Distribution

Other BSD version, like OpenBSD and FreeBSD, are just descendents of it.

So I take it noone's run BSD before?


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nope. i have used linux many times in many computers. is it similiar i guess?

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Posted: 10th May 2006 04:19
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Freebsd.

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I have run (free)BSD in my laptop, it made a wonderful testing machine. Only thing was that its harddrive blow and now I can run only freeSBIE (live bsd) and AdvaceCD (linux+mame as a live gaming console)

BSDs are good, but using them as a main working machine is a lot more pain than using some linux distro. Mainly becouse I need working 3d acceleration for playing Slune and penguins look cuter in my comp. case.

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muhahaha

http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/11/02/mi2g/index.php

London-based mi2g Intelligence Unit on Tuesday released a report that says Mac OS X and Berkeley Standard Distribution (BSD) Unix are the "world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environments." Linux operating systems offer the worst track record, according to mi2g, with Windows coming in second.

"More and more smart individuals, government agencies and corporations are shifting towards Apple and BSD environments in 2004," said DK Matai, Executive Chairman, mi2g. Matai calls adoption of Mac OS X and BSD Unix "an accelerating paradigm shift" thanks to professionals who "don't have the time to cope with umpteen flavours of Linux or to wait for Microsoft's Longhorn when Windows XP has proved to be a stumbling block in some well chronicled instances."

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I'd agree with the stability claim, but as far as Mac being secure I don't know.

I'm not going to use BSD for a main workstation, just a general all-purpose server. Apache, mysql, possible router and dns server


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Posted: 12th May 2006 05:35 Edited at: 12th May 2006 05:50
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Quote: "So I take it noone's run BSD before?"


I run OpenBSD on a Solaris Sparc 20 and FreeBSD on a pentium.
Ran NetBSD for about 2 years.

Quote: "just a general all-purpose server. Apache, mysql, possible router and dns server"


For convenience sake,id then suggest FreeBSD for its ports tree which can be downloaded and prepped during install as well as set up several GUI's during installation. I favour XFCE and Blackbox. Id suggest for you,Gnome or KDE as a introduction to UNIX and GUI's.

If you're that hardcore,go OpenBSD for its lightweight and builtin crypto libs then retreive a ports tree and unpack then begin to setup.

If you shy away from BSD,ive installed and configured,developed from,patched and secured:
- Linux RedHat(now Fedora Core)
- Debian
- Gentoo (preferd Linux distro for me)
- Slackware
- Mandrake (very much like redhat)
- SuSe
- Ubuntu (puke)

As well as Solaris SunOS UNIX v7-10 for both Sparc and x86

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Posted: 12th May 2006 10:14
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I used kde and gnome on red hat linux server before, and hated gnome. whole reason im considering xfce is because the machine im installing this on is a dual p133 with 80mb, but its all scsi Just need a simple and clean gui that requires as little resources as possible. A friend has solaris runnin on some xeons, wish i had the money for a sparc server.


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Posted: 12th May 2006 10:40 Edited at: 12th May 2006 10:44
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perhaps midnight commander would be more that machines style

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Quote: "perhaps midnight commander would be more that machines style"


indi's right. or blackbox or fvwm. OBSD is likely the lightest distro w/o ports tree. then download the ports,unpack and delete which ever you dont need.

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