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Darth Vader
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Posted: 5th Jun 2006 16:32
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Does anyone know how to setup a direct cable connection between Windows XP and Windows 98? I have the cord but don't know anything about the network side of things! If you don't know about DCC then maybe you know how to setup a network between the same OS's but through a PCMCIA Card, I have one of them too!
Thanks!


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Posted: 5th Jun 2006 17:07
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you'll need a network-crossover cable to direct connect from pc to pc network cards. when going through a router or hub the send/receive pins are already crossed in the ports

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SirFire
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Posted: 5th Jun 2006 18:53
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Obligatory: Google is your friend.

Basically as CR stated you need a specific kind of cable, and if you are not planning on sharing an internet connection, you need to set your TCP/IP parameters like so:

IP: 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.2 on the other machine)
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: leave blank (not important)

If you are planning on sharing an internet connection, use ICS on the XP machine and set the other machine for DHCP (obtain IP automatically)

You'll need "Client for Microsoft Network" and Netbeui protocol installed on both machines for file/print sharing.

Also note that after you have the correct settings, it can take up to 12 minutes for you to browse network resources due to microsoft's computer browser innefficiency.

If you have everything set up right, you should be able to ping each machine, and be able to telnet to port 137 on both machines.

I suggest you keep your firewalls off while you set the connection up.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2006 19:18
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if either machine is still on the internet (ie 2 nics) then dont disable the firewall, simply allow the other computer in the firewall settings

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Posted: 5th Jun 2006 20:39
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Looks at vaders sig...
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 07:26
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Quote: "you'll need a network-crossover cable"

Already have a corss over network cord! But I will probably connect it to a modem hub. Just need to configure the network properly!
Any help would be great!

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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 07:40 Edited at: 6th Jun 2006 07:53
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Quote: "Already have a corss over network cord! But I will probably connect it to a modem hub. "


I assume you meant to say a network hub.

I'm also guessing you know NOT to use crossover cables with hubs, routers, or switches. In case you don't here's why:

If you connect the computers to a hub using crossover cables, the network will almost certainly not work. (a small number of hubs can detect the correct configuration or allow you to change it.)

There are 2 main kinds of CATV cables, straight (a.k.a. patch) cables and crossover cables. The crossover cables have wires switched around to match up the correct signals across the computers. As CR stated, a hub crosses the signals for you, so by using a crossover cable with a hub, you will not have the correct wiring.

Usually the plugs on the end are transparent. If yours are, look at the sequence of color codes on both ends. If the sequence is the same, you have a straight-wired cable. If the sequence is out of order in the middle, you have a crossover cable.

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apologies for the long-winded response

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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 07:50
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lol

I have the netowrk hub already coneting three computers! I have a spare cross over cable while the network hub uses straight cables! What I need to o is by using the PCMCIA card connect another computer running windows 98 to the network. all the other computers are running windows XP. What I want to do is to re-install windows 95 on the 98 computer!
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