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Geek Culture / reformat hd?

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David iz cool
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 04:40
would reformatting my hd make my 3d applications run a little better??

by accessing data on the hd faster?not sure ,i wanted to get info from some pc experts out there.when would i need to reformat my hd?
Phaelax
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 09:57
ummm, no. If data access is that slow, defrag and clean out any junk-ware. That might make opening a 3d file quicker, but the program will run just the same because its all in memory at that point.

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Torrey
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 10:03
Phaelax has the right idea, you'll need to:

1) Remove any unnecessary programs you are not using.
2) Defrag your hard drive.
3) Check what's running in memory that is not needed, and terminate it. There's always something in there that can free up a nice amount of RAM.

indi
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 12:22 Edited at: 6th Jun 2006 13:19
HARD DRIVE STUFF & MISC SETUP STUFF

Whenever you reinstall windows and format the drive the system is free of junk you plague it with, in the way of software and junkware. Its going to fly.



To improve the speed of 3d applications when you cant format starts with your video card. an upgrade to this will enhance your machines graphics processing unit and in turn increase your polys / pixels on screen etc..

Ram will help on windows at around 2 gig it starts to improve.

When you do partition your hard drive, think about getting another drive and raid card of similar speed and size, consider a raid set for speed or set it for safety with twin backup redundancy.

Consider more ram, give windows 2 gig if your a gamer and you will notice an improvement.

If RAID scares you boo!, then buy another drive and make windows use this extra drive as a partition formatted drive for virtual memory and applications scratch disk area.



IF this drive is quick then your virtual memory and 3d application scratch will improve, now you have two hard drive heads working for your system, one for the windows system and another complete drive for virtual memory. you dont have to use all of the other drive for virt mem. carve a small 6 gig partition and dont put anything in it except point your system to this space. partition the other part of this drive into two other blocks. this way you have 2 partitions dedicated to backing up, that are not touching your windows hard drive, if you stuff your windows hard drive, you can easily disconnect your back up drive until you fix windows and or reinstall it on the other drive and just copy the stuff from the 2nd drive back over after you re connect it.


There is another method where you make part of your ram a disk.

ramdisks take out the slowest part of your computer (HD) out of the loop.
However they are highly volatile as they store everything in / or most parts of in ram.
Lighting fast virtual memory would be awesome if it could work in a ram disk.



Definately set up the system with users.

Admin -administrator
You - user
gamer - only load your games here or prefered application for speed
Your Mum - user
Your snotty sister - user

New Malware targets machines user settings, if you run one user as admin, your asking for pain, yes pain.

At least you will have another layer of defense doing this when things go wrong.

Making a user solely for gaming may sound dumb, but its ubeh teh skillzorz,
effectively your only loading what your game needs to run, hence saving all that Junk you need when surfing the net etc.. and getting a better performance from your machine, this is akin to applications as well, you will see a better performance when you have less loaded into system memory.
Even to the point of pulling the Network ( the blue one! ) cord out of your machine, then deactivating your virus software while you work HEAVEN FORBID, offline. This will free up more resources for use on your 3d application.

Another gaming tip : Large games load faster from your drive then your CD /DVD player, hence you get the drop on someone who reads the new game data from a CD/DVD. Legally your allowed to make one copy of your game in australia, each country is different. Alcohol 120% and similar gaming programs will allow you to copy the whole game to the hard drive as if its a mounted cdrom etc...


Diablo II Lord of Destruction Players would benefit from getting through the portal first and this was a huge advantage over others.

Lateral thinking regarding streamlining your machine can go a long way.

Get a Yellow Sticky and write : " Set a Restore Point When Im Feeling Silly"
on your monitor, if your feeling dumb that day or when you try to skip ahead too fast, is when your going to do something to your computer. at least this way you will have a point to return from.





DONT dive right into your registry and throw stuff around with glee.

registry healer
registry cleaner
registry mechanic

are good programs for novices when starting to explore the registry and making life
easier when things go wrong.




remove as many programs you can live without, it just makes the whole system more streamlined.

eg: uninstall winzip and just use winrar, it can also do zips and is a sightly more geeky then winzip, reducing your software base makes a machine a LOT faster.

msn yahoo irc aim can all be bundled just using trillain or a third party app thats similar to trillain

quicktime / real player / Windows media scraper / I think you can replace wll these with something called VLC. you should keep one you prefer and install VLC.

Winamp will cover a lot above as well and give you

For the love of god install firefox as soon as possible
once you have that get SPybot search and destroy.
in spybot set to advanced and activate SD helper and Tea Timer
Also configure the hosts file in that program to block websites.
immunixe yourself. this way at least if using IE you wont suffer so many problems with malware.


Any time you load a program where you had to run an exe to crack it because you might have warez, you have just allowed anything to pass through your computer while blindfolded, in this essence your opening a possible backdoor to yourself. Dont load it if you cant purchase it, find an alternative or practise with the demo so much it hurts, then scrimp and save for the $ for it and then you will feel closer to the program then just getting it for free. I dont condone warez but it had to be said for optimization factors etc.

Anyway theres a huge search engine called google, and it will show you all this and more.

If no-one gives your an answer to a question you have asked, consider:- Is your question clear.- Did you ask nicely.- Are you showing any effort to solve the problem yourself 
David iz cool
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 16:12
hey thanks for the info guys! especially indi,thats a long read. lol

i just have one more question,would leaving files i havent used in a long time slow down my pc at all? i have alot of gm games,demos,& other free programs i want to try sometime just collecting virtual dust on my hd.
xtom
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 16:48
The more crap you have on your hard drive the slower it will take to access files. Cleaning it up will typically make load times quicker, displaying folders quicker etc. but won't do as much for a program or game that is up and running. You should try to leave about a gig free at all times on your main drive for the windows swap file. If that doesn't have enough your pc will crawl big time.

As soon as you start talking 3d aps a graphics card upgrade would probably give you best speed up. And perhaps cpu/ram.

David iz cool
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Posted: 6th Jun 2006 16:59
ok thanks!
indi
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Posted: 7th Jun 2006 04:55
anything you can backup to discs for later use will save hard drive space and address locations, the less address locations on your drive the faster seek time. not mby much but it all helps.

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Les Horribres
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Posted: 7th Jun 2006 05:11
Quote: "Get a Yellow Sticky and write : " Set a Restore Point When Im Feeling Silly"
on your monitor, if your feeling dumb that day or when you try to skip ahead too fast, is when your going to do something to your computer. at least this way you will have a point to return from."


To me, restore is just to clog up HD space. It is much better to run complete scans. Search the win.ini and rege startpaths for any programs you shouldn't have there. Then pop in a boot disk and make a drive image.


Quote: "Another gaming tip : Large games load faster from your drive then your CD /DVD player, hence you get the drop on someone who reads the new game data from a CD/DVD. Legally your allowed to make one copy of your game in australia, each country is different. Alcohol 120% and similar gaming programs will allow you to copy the whole game to the hard drive as if its a mounted cdrom etc..."


As a general note, looking for nocd h8x is generally better as you use less hd space and possibly will run faster if the program only accesses 1 file at a time on the HD.

Quote: "quicktime / real player / Windows media scraper / I think you can replace wll these with something called VLC. you should keep one you prefer and install VLC."

I've been using Irfan, how much different is VLC? (I've seen the list... but that is not what I asked)


Quote: "Making a user solely for gaming may sound dumb, but its ubeh teh skillzorz,"

Actually... in my case... it does. I have very few programs loading on boot and generally load each as I want it. The only thing that loads on boot really is McAfee FireWall (if I am downloading questionable material I turn on ActiveScan).

I have no clue how people can sit back and let their system load CRUD durring boot. Yes, MSN is CRUD, so is quicktime, ituneshelper, the office thingy, that volume control thingy... and all that other junk.

BTW, how do you work hardware profiles? In an attempt to save even more ram I made a profile which I removed all but the most important hardware, but it affected the other profile. When I reinstalled the software on the other end it got installed on the other other end.

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