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Geek Culture / Dont you just hate Visual Studio 2005 sometimes ?

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 12:04 Edited at: 16th Jun 2006 12:08
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I'm writing a MFC Window - nothing else in it.

Go to add a CStatic bitmap variable - and what happens ? The window crashes when its closed - remove the CStatic variable, and all is fine.

I should point out, there is no other code apart from the variable...

Weird - fortunately the graphics that will be put there can be sent using a WM_x message...

And whats with the on-line help system deciding to crash a few minutes after all the Visual Studio programs have been closed ?

I can see (like VS 2003), there being no updates

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hyrichter
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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 15:26
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I've been laughing at all you poor VS folks ever since I moved to Delphi. Actually, it's called Borland Developer Studio, and supports Delphi, C++ Builder, and C# Builder.

The last VS I used was 2003. I haven't touched VS 2005 as I have no need now.


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 15:39 Edited at: 16th Jun 2006 15:40
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VS2005 is annoying, yes, the IDE is too slow and memory hungry, and its annoying, however I've found a slightly fast IDE shelling C# 05 (not sure about the rest I uninstalled them before, because they were unused and wasting HD) its called Sharp Develop if anyone reading needs it, it detects your compilers installed, Mono and VC# 05 compile in it.

Anyway, in comparrison what is VS 03 like to '05? Especially the IDE. I think I would prefer it with its current compatibility to stuff like Torque, DGSDK and TV3DSDK(C++ side, C#/VB work fine in 05)

Yeah Borland studio/Delphi is nicer, but expensive, except for the personal editions of earlier delphi's.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 16:34 Edited at: 16th Jun 2006 16:35
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Quote: "Anyway, in comparrison what is VS 03 like to '05? Especially the IDE."


I got Visual C++ .NET 2003 a couple years ago for Christmas, and I gotta say, I really like it, but 05 is just as good.

The IDE's are about the same, I'd say, you can move things around to how you prefer, etc,etc, except the '05 one just seems like it wants to stand out:
http://www.ppcdesigns.com/pub/vs03.jpg - Visual C++ 2003
http://www.ppcdesigns.com/pub/vs05.jpg - Visual C++ 2005

But I can honestly say I prefer '03 over '05, for the same reason you mentioned: compatibility.

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EddieB
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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 17:53
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I prefer '03 aswell, It's not to slow, and working "great" for most things I do LOL...

But as for mfc, eww.
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Toby Quan
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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 18:05
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I use 2003, and I don't really have any plans on upgrading to VS 2005.

I've been using VS 2003 for 3 years now, and I still haven't mastered it. I'm learning new ways to do things all the time.

I'm probably going to just skip 2005 and wait for dot net 3.0.
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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 16:58
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Borland is good - unfortunately the DirectX SDK's, along with otehr things aren't usually compatiable with Borland's library format - hence the reason I dont use it.

VS 2005 is good, but probably can be slower than '03.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 17:07
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I don't like VS 2005. I like VS 6. Unfortunately, I can't use 6 on XP apparently, so I'm stuck with using it on a really slow 98.
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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 17:11 Edited at: 17th Jun 2006 17:12
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You can use VS 6 on XP (with the latest service pack for VS 6). However, I found that every other save, it will complain about the file being open...

There is little difference between the IDE on VS'03 & '05 - in fact, I cant think of much that is new...

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 17:35
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In that case when I go spending money on a C++ and C# IDE I'll go straight for 03, its more compatible and looking at the images the interface appears to not contain parts that will slow it down too much, plus no doubt its cheaper

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 19:15
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Quote: "You can use VS 6 on XP"
Unless I'm missing something I've used VS6 for years on XP, well before sp6. Never had a problem with file open complaints.

Cheers

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 20:52
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I much much much prefer 2005 to 2003. The Intellisense actually works 100% of the time for one thing, and it starts up immediately after you begin typing.

That's one of its best features.

The interface is much nicer and easier on my eyes, too. I wouldn't have purchased it but since I got it for free I will use it

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