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Philip
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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 21:56
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WHAT was that about?

What?

Linda? An obsession with ELO? A bunch of weirdoes?

The entire episode was complete and utter rubbish. It wasn't Doctor Who. It wasn't within a million miles of Doctor Who. Russell T. Davies must be suffering some kind of nervous breakdown or something.

A w f u l.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 22:01 Edited at: 17th Jun 2006 22:03
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Yeh, it was a bit odd. Quite funny seeing Peter Kay running around dressed as a giant bogey though.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 22:12
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Amusingly I was feeling pretty rubbish (mass-heyfever ) between football games and flipped about a bit to land on Dr Who. Never normally watch BBC but was hoping for a bit of World cup round up and was too ill to do anything other than flip around channels. Started watching a bit after I realised it was Dr Who (didn't realise for about 5 mines). You see I've never been a Dr Who fan (although love sci-fi) and it always felt like the sci-fi equivelent of dragging your nails across a black board. So I haven't seen (not even 5 mins) an episode in probably 25 years or so. Obviously a bad episode to come back to then as within 10 minutes I uttered the phrase "same old crap" and went downstairs to use interactive for more football info. Maybe in another 25 years it will be good

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 22:54 Edited at: 17th Jun 2006 23:01
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I thought it was pretty good - it was certainly a different way of doing an episode.

It was both funny and sad in parts.

In essence it was about how weak (and feeble minded people - who would think up a detective agency called LINDA??) can be manipulated by those who are stronger (and usually evil).

The ending was wryly amusing - have a 'relationship' with a paving slab.

Next weeks one looks a bit different as well - it looks like they'll be using a bit of stop-motion animation (or computer generated animation that looks like stop-motion)...

Ol' Russell certainly seems to be trying new things - which could work if the stories are good (unlike last weeks one).

One worrying aspect of the new lot of Dr Who's is they seem very keen on getting famous people - which isn't needed.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 23:10 Edited at: 17th Jun 2006 23:16
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Thats what happens when you get a kid to design something ...

The outside running bit was funny - in the wrong sort of way...

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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 23:13
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I wasn't impressed at all with that episode LOL

Last week and the one before where great though.
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Posted: 17th Jun 2006 23:32 Edited at: 17th Jun 2006 23:42
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I wonder if Thickie Mickey will be coming back at the end of the series ?

They are also plugging Torchwood a lot...

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I have serious concerns for the mental health of the kid who came up with that monster

I thought the episode was different, and I enjoyed it. The problem was that it wasn't the kind of thing that I had sat down to watch.

It's nice that they're trying new things though. We can sit here and slate it, but we'd also be complaining if all the episodes were the same.

I'd like to see more risks like that, even if they don't all work.

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Posted: 18th Jun 2006 01:35 Edited at: 18th Jun 2006 01:40
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Quote: "One worrying aspect of the new lot of Dr Who's is they seem very keen on getting famous people - which isn't needed."

Couldn't agree more. It doesn't help the storyline when "average joe trying to secretly film evil-doers" sticks out a mile because he's been in umpteen other things.

Quote: "The outside running bit was funny - in the wrong sort of way..."

Yeh, Docter Who has it's funny moments, but they're never in your face visual funny like that was.

EDIT:: Gotta agree with Bahamut though, it's great that they're trying something different.

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Posted: 18th Jun 2006 01:39 Edited at: 18th Jun 2006 01:42
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Indeed - more risks should be taken, but the scripts need to be good enough to handle it - so far, I think there have only be around half the episodes with a decent script - the other half being as boring as hell.

Mind you, it did take ST:TNG three series to get going, so we may have a better lot next year (assuming the BBC get another series made).

Does anyone have the 'viewing' figures for this series ? Are they down or up on the previous one ? If they're down - I cant see the BBC continuing it beyond the 4 or so series (they wont kill it straight away, of course - but they may end up doing more multi-parters or changing time slots).

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Posted: 18th Jun 2006 02:09 Edited at: 18th Jun 2006 02:13
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Some of the episodes feel rushed if anything.

I can understand peoples negitive reaction to this story, they tuned in ready to see the doctor, and effectively his starring role was replaced with an unknown. People reject change more often then not. I think the real problem is that the Doctor is a strong, central starring role. This tempory star was Joe average. But it does show the Dr Who universe from a different perspective. How often does in breeze in, and out again, never sticking around to face consiqences. How many people's live's have been shattered, how many have becomes obsessed with this man and his time machine. If someone like that breezed in and out of your life, without answering questions, how would it affect you? Well, we've seen it from someone elses perspective. He got together with a bunch of other people, and it effectively became a threopy group. He was no longer just himself and an unsolvable mystary. We also found out why he was so obsessed with the doctor, his mother had died. I personally think it might have been better with a more serious tone, but it's not really supposed to be a deep and dark series. Perhaps the script would have benefited more from a LOST style of doing things, but Dr Who has a definate formula. It's not one of the best Dr Who's I've seen, and to be honest I'm still of the mind that the last series writing and starring role was much better, it was certainly a bit darker. But compaired to season 2 standards set so far, this episode wasn't bad at all, just a bit of a culture shock.

I should also mention that I watched Johnathan Ross the previous night which revealed that the doctor and rose only appeared for about 5 minites, so I was possibily more mentally prepared for it then anyone who hadn't seen the Johnathan Ross show.

Also has anyone noticed a few dark comments about Roses upcoming fate in the show? We had the devil last week say she was going to die fighting, and we had a rather dark comment at the end of this weeks show about Rose's and Jakies fate. I hope they don't get rid of Rose, but there's certainly reason to suspect that she might not be living through the final episode.

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Rose dying might be an excuse to explore the possibilities of the doctor going back to change things, which, as we already know is not supposed to happen.

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I watch it tomorrow. It clashed with Deal Or No Deal today. I had to watch that instead.

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Quote: "this weeks show about Rose's and Jakies fate."

Must have missed that...

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Posted: 18th Jun 2006 11:42 Edited at: 18th Jun 2006 11:48
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Ok, I'm not a fan of the new Dr Who, but I have to say the worst thing about Dr Who is the theme tune. It has progressively got worse and worse and now it is at an all time low. The old style ones had awesome analogue synths squeezed to their limit. Now it's a clean crisp boring ballbag theme tune. Attached is how it should sound.

Edit: Here it is in full 1970 style. Synthesiser infancy. Amazing technical achievement.
http://tv.cream.org/specialassignments/themes/drwho2.mp3

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Tom baker was my dr who, the rest pales in comparison, thats just me however.

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Yes, the theme tune has lost a bit of its dynamic edginess...

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Quote: "the worst thing about Dr Who is the theme tune."


Quote: "Yes, the theme tune has lost a bit of its dynamic edginess..."


You are both completely and utterly insane. To this day it remains one of the most destinctive theme tunes around today.

Besides, I'm pretty darn sure that if they changed it, you'd both be on here asking why the old theme tune wasn't good enough for the new series.

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Good grief my man! Swab out your lugs!

The theme tune hasn't change much melodically. Yes, it's pretty much the same. If they wrote a new one, that would be sacrilege. No, it's the production. The sounds and methodology. The old Dr Who theme tunes were written with squelchy analogue synths. There were lots of effects applied that really squeezed out the sci-fi factor and gave the tune real character. The original theme tune was a pioneering tune which used synthesising techniques before synthesisers were even invented. They manually had to stick bits of analogue tape together and distort piano and string sounds.

The modern version by comparison has absolutely no character. It is the same melody and same distinctive tune, but without the rough sci-fi character of the 2nd era theme tune. It's just a shame. I would've thought with the history of people saying how the theme tune had got worse and worse, with the new Dr Who they would've pulled out the stops to try and recreate the grimey original. Unfortunately, they didn't bother, and little billy used his nice crisp synthesiser sounds and mindlessly resequenced the same tune without trying to feel the sci-fi-ness-ity.

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I personally like the theme tune, and the way it's presented. It's not weird enough to be offensive to anyone. Though it might perhaps loose some character for some people. It definately lacks marmite quailities now which is good.

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I'm just one of those people who, if you swapped marmite for jam to keep everyone happy, would winge for the return of the marmite.

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Quote: "would winge for the return of the marmite"
I hope you burn in hell....

Space 1999 (not counting Trek of course) was my sci-fi of choice as a kid I tell ye. Never saw the attraction of Dr Who or Blakes Seven. Actually now I think about it, Buck Rogers was tops too (Wilma or the princess? Beedy beedy bippy...).

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Quote: "I hope you burn in hell....
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hehe Thanks matey. I did actually chuckle at your bluntness. That doesn't happen often.



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I question the sanity of anyone who got anything out of last night's Doctor Who.

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I agree. I stopped watching during the first series, because it just wasn't catching my interest any more.

I saw the first of the pit episodes quite by accident and thought that maybe I was missing something, and I had to watch the second. Then I came back this week and saw the big pile of steaming dog poo that was last nights episode. It's touch and go as to whether I watch next weeks ATM.

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Nice picture there Fallout. I take it that it is lots of marmite on toast? Thats your bed that is. That is the best you can get for a bed even that is. Thats your girlfriend infact.

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Quote: "I question the sanity of anyone who got anything out of last night's Doctor Who."

Hope your not questioning my mental state - me and my invisible friend wont like that...

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Quote: "Thats your girlfriend infact."


No, that's your girlfriend, that is!!!




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Could be worse - your girlfriend could be embedded in a paving slab...

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... And be better known as the ghost from the girls toilets in Harry Potter.

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Quote: "Could be worse - your girlfriend could be embedded in a paving slab..."


I have had many girlfriend's who Id wish they where embedded in a paving slab...
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All you would need then is an absorobthingie...

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Well I just watched this weeks DR Who, and it wasn't good, or bad, it was just different. It actually introduces an element into DR Who that could be made into a good future story. I don't want to see too many of these types of stories though.

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I too have just watched it, I missed it on Saturday.

Had some good bits but overall was a pile of doodoo, but as whole episode was based on a monster created from a Blue Peter compo, I suppose the one-off episode should just be ignored. Rest of series has been pretty good up to now and I'm sure rest will be ok.

I loved the adult humour about having a love life with the paving slab.

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Quote: "I loved the adult humour about having a love life with the paving slab."


Ahh, finally the jokes above make some sense. I've not seen the episode, so didn't get the paving slap comments. I'm just on here winging about the music, and being insulted for eating marmite.

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Quote: "I loved the adult humour about having a love life with the paving slab."

It was slyly put in - her reply of "we wont mention that" was amusing...

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Quote: "No, that's your girlfriend, that is!!! "
Ah, I couldn't get away with two "that is"'s in one sentence.

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I was going to do a joke there. And infact try and splice in that Mother Teresa joke that is like the best joke ever. But no. Another time another place (college basically).

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My imagination acutally shut down at the love life comment. There's some imagry there I'm not keen to explore.

I bet the writer of that episode is very, very annoyed at peoples limited horizons though. Still, a price he must pay when trying to create something for the public. It's really not that bright on the whole.

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I actually rather enjoyed that episode. Its better than some this series thus far.

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I was looking through the program list, and it works out there was only two programs I didn't like (so far) - and I thought it was more...

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Well I thought that episode was utter rubbish was Russel T Davies drunk when he wrote that?

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RTD didn't even write that episode to my knowledge.

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I thought he did - and it was great.

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Quote: "Well I thought that episode was utter rubbish was Russel T Davies drunk when he wrote that?"


Oh I thought this was about the Cybermen V's Daleks...

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No, its about the one with the fat comedian in.

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Yeah but there seem to be a whole load of posts missing???


Edit: No they are in the Doctor V's the ultimate enemy...sorry! This old thread was bought back to life, and overtook the newer version.

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