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Chily Dog
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Hello All,

I'm in the market for a 19 inch LCD monitor for gaming and had a few questions:

1.)What brand of monitor have you used and how has it worked for you?
2.)When purchasing an LCD monitor, what kind of things should you look for in terms of refresh rates, aspect ratio, ext.?
3.)What would be a good price?

Thanks for any help you can give me.
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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 25th Jun 2006 22:44
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Just get the cheapest one you can find. It saves using up GFX power for an ingame motion blur...

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hyrichter
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I personally wouldn't get a 19" LCD. The resolution can only go to 1280x1024, and the aspect ratio is slightly skewed from normal monitors (it's slightly more square.) I paid the extra to buy me a 20" LCD (1600x1200) resolution, and I'm loving it.

My monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 204B. I paid about $450 for it about 3 months ago. It looks like it's gone down about $100 since then. Oh, well, here it is on Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001226

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IanG
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i've got a 17 inch acer, its got a really fast refresh time bout 12ms iirc but it takes ages to switch on, as it shows the acer logo for about 5 seconds, not ideal but hey

what brand - i've had acer and lg both work fine and my dad has a phillips

refresh rates - fast as possible
aspect ratio - doesn't really matter for games, though you might want a widescreen one, but i dont see the point

what would be a good price - free but hey

generally speaking just get the cheapest one you can but make sure its an known brand, ideally get an lg as they are nice


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David T
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 00:06
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I've never had a problem with my LG Flatron - nice vibrant picture and a small profile.

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Chily Dog
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 01:23
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Very good, thanks for the advice so far.
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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 13:28
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I have an Iiyama 17" Prolite E431S. FANTASTIC TFT. Has dual input so I can connect a DSub and a... dammit - whats the other one... DVI - thats it! DVI. Then at a touch of a button I can flick between inputs. A dairly common feature nowadays, but was pretty inventive when it came out. There is about zero blur. It has built in speakers... which often could be mistaked for overclocked buzzers - but they do the job if you forget your headphones or your main speakers blow up. It also has a headphone socket on the underside too.

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Van B
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 14:01
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How much you want to spend?

I mean, you can get a 19'' TFT with 8ms response time for £140(inc VAT) - however it's so ugly you'd have to be real cheap to settle for that.

Piccy:

If that floats your boat then it's probably a decent monitor, that looks like it's been brutalised by Trinny and Suzannah.

Personally I like big and simple, so I went for a Gateway 19'' TFT from Comet...



...was £160 and has a 18ms response time, which is far from ideal, but the clean design and DVI input sold it to me - very happy with it, even playing HL2 on it with no complaints (heck my PC snob brother snapped up my old 30ms TFT with no complaints, so remember that a good quality display is what your looking for primarily, not a fast gaming display, remember 20ms is still about 60fps).

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 14:08
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I do like that way that TFT is advertised running Windows 98!! If you've got £100 spare and running Windows 98, I can think of a few things better than a flat screen to buy (unless your monitor just blew up)

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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 14:43 Edited at: 26th Jun 2006 14:45
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look up the specs on my monitor

viewsonic vx924 19"

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx924/

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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 15:29 Edited at: 26th Jun 2006 15:30
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I've got a 19" LCD - 'tis about 3-4 months old now... Not a problem at all!

One of the big things to look out for in an LCD is the dead-pixel return policy.

On an LCD, each 'pixel' is actually made up of 3 led's (Red, Green, Blue).
Now, if a company says that you must have at least 2 dead pixels before return, that means that you must have 2red, 2green, and 2blue all adjacent to eachother (usually).

Most companies have a policy where any 3 adjacent pixels (that is, a single red, green & blue, all adjacent) within the middle third of the monitor, and it's an instant return.

My monitor has a very nice return policy, sort of like that...

BenqQ FP91G+
Dead Pixel Policy

'tis only AU$400 when I bought it, but probably alot less now

Read up on some info about how LCD monitors work so you can understand the lingo, then you can accuratly compare different monitors and see which ones are best for you

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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 15:43
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Cattlerustlers TFT scares me, I mean 3ms - can't be safe for humans .

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Saikoro
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 17:11
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I've got one of them too, CR, really neat displays


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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 18:03
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At 60FPS, a latency of 16ms means you shouldn't be able to tell because a new frame is sent every 16.6 milliseconds.

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dark coder
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doesnt the latency reffer to how long a screen update takes from when its sent from your gpu? like if your gpu makes the screen totally red then with 30ms latency wouldent it take 30ms for the colour to change? or if it actually reffering to the fps of the updates?.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2006 19:27
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I've got one of those Dell LCD efforts. 2001FP or somesuch. Think is 20.1" at 1600x1200 with 16ms. But the best bit is you can rotate the screen (like the old Mac ones) to make an A4 screen. Viewing forums at 1200x1600 is tops Crisp as hell screen, but my 1920x1200 laptop is like super sharp.

Quote: "BenqQ FP91G+"
I just got one of them for one of my spare machines. Excellent 19" monitor for the price. And DVI too. Tops. Would have been nice if they chucked in some USB ports like the Dell though.

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Daz, 'tis indeed.

Only gripe I have is that it says it comes in Silver/Black, which doesn't, as the name would imply, mean that it comes in either black or silver. No, infact, it comes in silver AND black. ie, the monitor's frame is silver, and all the rest (base & back) is black.
Which, as it turns out, means that it doesn't match my speakers, keyboard, and mouse!

But, no worries!

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Silver speakers are like hens teeth!

You can get white, or black, or earphones . I have a black case, beige DVD drive, black keyboard, silver monitor, and white speakers. Looks like a design student expunged their hangover on my desk.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2006 18:34
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The timing you see refers (or at least should) to the time it takes 1 pixel to go from black to white to black. It has nothing to do with refresh rate. At 60fps, a 3ms latency is going to look a LOT better than 16ms - assuming that the 3ms one is not a fraudulent use by marketting of a loophole...

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Look, we have a 1ms second refresh of rgb(255,255,255) to rgb(254,254,254)! We rok!

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RalphY
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I have a 19" LG Flatron, is alright - though a couple of the pixels have started to die. A friend has a 19" Acer widescreen though which is pretty sweet, only problem is alot of older games don't support widescreen so everything gets stretched.
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Eric T
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Posted: 28th Jun 2006 20:21 Edited at: 28th Jun 2006 20:21
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009087

That is what I will be getting when I order the PC's for my next gaming machine (a few weeks...)

This is what i have now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009073

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