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Steve J
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 00:56
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I just moved to a new house, but it has a crappy comcast router. The Antenna broke off a few minutes ago, and my pc gets really crappy reception 2 rooms away, and my laptop in my room doesnt get any reception. Does anyone know of a good cable router? I was looking at a wireless N (looks sweet), or failing that Wireless G. If anyone has any experience with a router tell me. (or a Wireless N set) I have only used Linksys, so...



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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 01:52
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Linksys makes a good Wirelss G + 4 port wired (WRT54G)
never had a problem with it. add a pair of high gain antenna and a range expander and you can cover a 4 story house. Just dont get that speed-boost crap version of the router

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Steve J
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 02:09
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I might look for one like that. I am really intrested in draft-N or pre-N router + card sets...



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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 02:16 Edited at: 1st Jul 2006 02:18
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wow, I hadnt heard of pre-N, just looked it up on Belkin's site...


Advantages
• 800% greater coverage than standard 802.11g - Belkin Pre-N provides the industry's best wireless coverage, extending your range with improved reliability and fewer drops.
• 600% greater speeds than standard 802.11g - Belkin Pre-N provides the industry's fastest wireless connection for gaming, streaming video, Voice over IP, and moving large files efficiently and quickly between all the devices in your networked home.
• Improved performance of standard 802.11g and 802.11b networking devices - Using a Belkin Pre-N Router or Card with an older 802.11g or 802.11b networking product increases wireless coverage up to 20%.
• Improved resistance to wireless interference - Belkin Pre-N products sense potential interference and dynamically shift to the clearest wireless channel available.
• Belkin Pre-N products do not drop to the lowest networking speed in a mixed-mode environment - If a standard 802.11g or 802.11b device is introduced into a Belkin Pre-N network.
• The Belkin Pre-N product will not drop to the standard 802.11g or 802.11b speeds - Belkin Pre-N products will continue to transmit at a link rate of 108Mbps, a result competing products cannot achieve.
• Advanced Security - Wi-Fi® Protected Access (WPA) support provides enhanced encryption protecting your wireless network.


600% faster than G! woah.
But why does it say 108Mbps just above, when thats only 2X over G?

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Steve J
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 02:40
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who knows? That looks great though!



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indi
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 03:26
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make a pringle can antenna

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Steve J
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 03:52
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It has a crappy comcast router. I am willing to pay to have one that is fast, and has customizability.



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alex 1337
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 03:54
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Don't believe anything belikin says. Last year, I bought one of these "high range" wireless routers from them and I am having problems since. The router doesn't give wireless connection for 5 feet. lol
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Steve J
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 04:00
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I have tons of belkin stuff, all of it is great. Dont trust actiontec, they suck. Bad. Maybe it was a malfunction?



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Kenjar
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I use a speedtouch 576 wireless router, I stuck it to the ceiling, in the middle of the house, which gives me about 60 - 78% singal strenth in any room. Another good one is the netgear alternative. As with anything, positioning is the best way to get the result you require.

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indi
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 04:55
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netgear routers here, if i could afford it i would go cisco

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Phaelax
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Posted: 1st Jul 2006 20:41
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dont buy linksys, they build utter crap and you have to reset the router at least once a day or more. I've seen dozens of customers complain about this. Get an SMC router, it works perfectly.

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Posted: 2nd Jul 2006 02:05
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Quote: "dont buy linksys, they build utter crap and you have to reset the router at least once a day or more"

Cisco bought them out over a year ago iirc. If youre having to reboot it every day you have an outdated or corrupt bios flash. Flash to the latest bios or step it back one.

Aside from that I have had little or no problems with linksys products. Like with any manufacturer, there will be fanboys, and there will be horror stories.

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Phaelax
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In the past 2 years, I've just seen so many ppl have trouble with them, even with recent models. You're the only person I've met who hasn't had a problem with them.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 2nd Jul 2006 21:07
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I have a Gigabyte one which works with everything but my DS, what I bought it for.

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Les Horribres
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Posted: 2nd Jul 2006 21:09 Edited at: 2nd Jul 2006 21:10
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Quote: "make a pringle can antenna"


popsci suggests a parabolic antena. I think.

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 2nd Jul 2006 21:14
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By the way, you can get a system (£99) that uses the electricty supply as a network cable - apparently you can get speeds up to 85Mbps (slightly under standard 100Mbps cabling). See http://www.adslguide.org/hardware/reviews/2005/q3/devolo85.asp

For reviews of routers and whatnot see http://www.adslguide.org/reviews/

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2006 01:35
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Quote: "You're the only person I've met who hasn't had a problem with them."

Oh no, trust me, I have had some problem - router rebooting solved with a bios flash, and I just had one fry on me, replaced it - all ok. I am just saying its not a nightmare. They lasted a few years.

anyway good luck yo's

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2006 07:00
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Quote: "By the way, you can get a system (£99) that uses the electricty supply as a network cable "

I've heard of that. Wouldn't that be subjected to more noise in the lines though? Just something about plugging a network cable from my computer into a power outlet doesn't appeal to me.

Quote: "I am just saying its not a nightmare. They lasted a few years."

A few years is good at least, but I'm anal about computer equipment working all the time. Flashing the bios or rebooting is beyond my tolerance. (as you can imagine my temper when dealing with Windows all day long)

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Les Horribres
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Quote: "as you can imagine my temper when dealing with Windows all day long)"


You should join the kill bill fan club.

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ionstream
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I bought the cheapest thing on Newegg (an xterasys, never heard of it before I got one) and it's been working great for me. Don't know if that's a wise decision, though .

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Its people like you who are willing to try out new, unheard of brands that get the rest of us on something good. (or keep us away from something bad)

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Quote: "Wouldn't that be subjected to more noise in the lines though?"

Shouldn't be much extra noise.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2006 19:31
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tips for routers:

1. DONT BUY A NETGEAR ROUTER!!! thier tech support sucks so bad, i had to call them literally 10 times(each call lasting about 2 hours) and the problem was never 100% fixed. also, the tech support stationed in India, so its hard to understand: "Hallo, deesh iz tek shooport."

2. D-link is supposed to be decent, but ive never used one

3. the new linksys N router(WRT300N) is lightning fast and works great. the only problem i had was getting my xbox360 and another pc to connect, but i just called linksys and there tech support rocks.

4. DONT BUY NETGEAR ROUTERS!(again)

just my 2 cents...


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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Yes, Netgear are poor (nice network cards though). The best, but most expensive ones, are Draytek - you cant really go wrong there.

Linksys are good too (not so expensive either).

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Les Horribres
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cheers to the netgear router!

Only have to reprogram it every powerout.
And then program it some more after it kicks me off line.
And then when it randomly stops working, unplug, wait 5 sec, then plug back in.

So kudos to netgear!

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Quote: "Shouldn't be much extra noise"
I heard it works pretty well, and apparently a faster version is in the works. Plus it's much more secure than wireless (unless you live in a flat with shared leccy I guess...).

Cheers

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Quote: "unless you live in a flat with shared leccy I guess...).
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I believe building codes would still require each unit to be on separate circuits.

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indi
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never had a problem with netgear, dlink can be painful with an australian isp telstra. they even have a heartbeat function to stop them dropping out.

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