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Geek Culture / Oblivion VS new graphics card

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Medieval Coder
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 02:29
Ok, i have a delima...

I have to decide to get:
a)Oblivion (for the PC)
b)A new graphics card because mine is getting old...

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a) Insperation and ideas for my games
b) Better FPS...


What would you choose?

Richard Davey
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 02:35
That must be a heck of a cheap graphics card if you're comparing buying it against Oblivion

Also, Oblivion will play poorly on an old graphics card anyway, so you'd need a decent new one before it's worth even installing Oblivion, to get the most from it

Bite my shiny metal ass
CattleRustler
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 02:41
to quote rich above...
Quote: "Bite my shiny metal ass"


no, really - get a new mobo and a pci-e card, its the dogz-arse

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Medieval Coder
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 02:53
Quote: "That must be a heck of a cheap graphics card if you're comparing buying it against Oblivion"

No, I just cant afford both...

Flindiana Jones
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 02:57
Ahem. Oblivion would win. All those swords and magic...all a graphics card could do would be fall on them. Oh wait...gotcha. I'd say new Graphics card. Oblivion probably would make you feel inadequate, and just inspire you to be uncreative. Non bueno.

Medieval Coder
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 03:07
Any suggestions for a good card under $200 for a PCI Express? Im not the best at finding good ones....

Torsten Sorensen
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Saikoro
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 12:40
the 512 MB version of the same card runs very nicely indeed.


EddieB
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 14:33
Quote: "get a new mobo and a pci-e card, its the dogz-arse
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Yes indeed, save up and buy those.. I have recently finished my new pc.. and have a ge-force 6600 pci-e and it's a bootie..
Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 16:45
Oblivion runs on 45-43 fps on my card, the 256 VRAM one.

Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 16:49
Get a new graphics card. Inspire yourself and make your games. If you're playing Oblivion, you'll never make a game.


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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 16:54
Quote: "If you're playing Oblivion, you'll never make a game. "

BS
I've been working on my project for a while, and I play Oblivion A LOT. Thats why I havn't made much progress, I suppose....

Kenjar
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 22:50
Graphics card choice is easy, if it's a nVidia brand, a series 7 card (above 7600) and has a least 256Mb of ram, then you just keep going up in spec (there are different version of 7600 cards) until you hit your maximum limit.

Don't bother with ATI, some of the cards do perform better, but not when you take into account their price, plus the nVidia used a unified driver system so it's easy to update your drivers, and easy to keep track of the lastest drivers. ATI can be a right pain in the ass. It's the best thing that nVidia ever invented, the unified driver system is.

Sid Sinister
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Posted: 8th Jul 2006 23:15 Edited at: 8th Jul 2006 23:16
I believe www.tomshardware.com does a review that tests different graphics cards against oblivion. If thats not the site then google Oblivion + Graphics Cards and you should get some sites. If you still have no luck I'll help you find it.

I did research on graphics cards that would play oblivion well and I came up with the Sapphire Radeon X1800XT. That card will blow the sh!t out of oblivion (EDIT: For a good price mind you, there are better cards)

Also, newegg.com is a great (and I do mean great) site to buy parts from. Tiger direct will rip you off on certain prices (ok, mostly everything )

Hope that helps
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 07:05
i prefer ati, military standard for many years

UnderLord
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 08:35
Quote: "lso, newegg.com is a great (and I do mean great) site to buy parts from. Tiger direct will rip you off on certain prices (ok, mostly everything )"


I'v found tigerdirect to be cheaper with there prices then newegg....

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Kenjar
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 11:28
Like I say, in some cases ATI can outproform the nVidia counterpart, however it's never more then a few FPS which almost no one will notice, and for the pleasure you end up paying 10-20% more.

indi
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 13:11
i disagree with your "wisdom", in most cases they out perform most,lets compare 2005 cards.
I cant find a 2006 featureset.

this link has a lot of reading and this article is page 17 for one estimate.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/2005-17gpu_46.html

you will notice a benchmark between sli and non sli and the ati still kicks ass.
there is a lot of nvidia cards i would not buy,and one ati x600 xt i wouldnt buy.

Dont dismiss one card and forget about the manufacturers setup.
thats universally stupid to assume the card relies solely on the original manufacturer.

net objects fusion btw is very uncool for webdesign, perhaps its similar to your opinion, also posting your email as a link in your site is asking for spam.

I disregard your opinion on this subject as ignorance on your behalf.

good luck to you.

dark coder
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 13:27
well on the link you just posted a found a benchmark from the latest cards from both, http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/nvidia-gf7950gx2_12.html

i personally like nvidia cards now, i used to have ati and had a few problems(that seemed to result in getting a new card) and havent looked back.

Hallowed are the ori.
Kenjar
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 21:49
My information comes from the July edition of PC Pro, they did a comparison on a wide range of cards from the 6200 right up to the ATI X1900 XTX, now I've reread the article, it is clear that the Ati X1900 XTX and X1900 XT, and the X1800 XT are faster then the 7900 GTX, the X1800 XT is 5 frames faster, then X1900 XT is 7 frames faster and the X1900 XTX is 11 frames faster.

However this ONLY applies to one game, Call of Duty 2, and it's not unusual for games to be sponsered by companies like ATI and nVidia to optermise the engines for one or that other. I suspect that's what's happened here, given that most other games are very close in results, the differences being 1 - 3 FPS even between the 7900 GTX and X1900 XTX. At the end of the day, both chipsets for the majority of games are very closely matched, so basically look at the prices rather than the speed. At this level we are talking about £250 - £350, and unless you are mega rich you are better off going for something cheaper, and getting a few games and the same time.

The reason I like nVidia is their unified driver system, you go online, you select "GEFORCE and TNT2" then the OS you are using, and lo and behold you have the lastest driver. With ATI it's much less clear cut.

I've also found all their cards (I've owned the TNT2, Geforce 2, Geforce FX5200 and FX5900, and finally the GT6600, and they've all been stable, easy cards to use. When I find a brand that constantly provided stable hardware I stick with it, and while I admit that the last ATI card I used was the Rage Pro, it did have a few problems which is why I went to nVidia in the first place.

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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 22:04
ATI for me,

ATI makes drivers for linux which means no more vesafb crap.

Ive used both cards released at pretty much the same date... the ATI kicked so much more ass ive always used it.

Not to say nVidia cards arent good, they are. thats why there ATI's competitor.

But unfortunately thats what theyll always be XD.

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Kenjar
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Posted: 9th Jul 2006 22:58
nVidia supports the following Operating Systems:

Windows 95/98/ME
Windows 2000/ XP
Windows XP MCE
Windows Server 2003 x64
Windows NT4 SP6
Windows Vista x86
Windows Vista x64
Linux IA32
Linux IA64
Linux AMD64/EM64T
FreeBSD

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