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Geek Culture / is there such thing as an internal pc speaker metronome?

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 22:31
I am trying to make some music but because my composer does not support recording to a popular format I am recording it while I play it(using stereo mix) but because stereo mix records everything that is played on your pc through the speakers(modem and pc speaker excluded) I need something to play a metronome on the pc speaker(or even modem) but I have not been able to find one

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 22:34
you could make a midi click track, and play it back while recording

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 22:41
I use iPod linux which comes wiht a program metronome.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 22:46
well I don't have an ipod

Quote: "you could make a midi click track, and play it back while recording"

well if I did that then it would get recorded with the music I make because stereo mix is exactly what comes out of your speakers, but not out of pc speaker, or modem

if I had a spare sound card and some spare speakers then I could probably do it but since I dont....

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 23:35
Does it have to be an audio metronome? Can't you flash something at regular intervals on the screen to keep time?

Something like this but without the sound -> http://www.webmetronome.com/

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 23:42 Edited at: 10th Jul 2006 23:52
not really, I jsut have to hear it because my visual focus will be on the keyboard

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while I'm on the subject,
it isn't possible to use my guitar as an midi device is it?(I just have a basic sound card, with just line-in, line-out, and mic)

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:08 Edited at: 11th Jul 2006 00:13
midi is digital data, guitars by rule of thumb are analog devices, not directly compatible. However, I think I've seen software that analyzes the guitar input and makes a "best guess" on transcribing it into midi data.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:12
is all sound analog?(well on most sound cards anyway)
if not then it wouldn't help if I used my amp would it?

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:19
Quote: "is all sound analog?"


What you hear is always analog, but there are many ways in which that analog sound is generated by your speakers.

Compare a phonograph, 8-track player, reel-to-reel-player, cassette deck, cd-player, mp3 player, all of which make sound, but all of them use different ways of acquiring and reproducing the sound you hear. Midi makes sound by taking a series of numbers representing pitch, length, decay, etc and modifying a table of pre-recorded sounds accordingly to reproduce a musical score. In order for your guitar to be converted into midi format, something has to listen for different notes, quantify them, measure their properties and convert those into numbers that are midi-compatible.

Just because a CD will fit on a record player, doesn't mean the record player can reproduce the music on the CD. Same thing with your guitar, if you have nothing that can act as an intermediary to translate the signals, you can't do it.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:22
You can make a metronome program in the original QBASIC, which isn't too hard to find on google.


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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:33
hmmm I luckily have it on hand(3 original disks for ms-dos 6.22)
I just have no idea how to do some stuff(never used qbasic before)

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:38
sound 500,100 : rem - first number is frequency, second is duration in milliseconds

A simple program:
10 wait 400
20 sound 500,100
30 goto 10

will produce a 500hz tone for 1/10 of a second every half second, most likely from your PC speaker.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:39
Just:

Something like that, anyway.


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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 00:51 Edited at: 11th Jul 2006 00:52
or get some half decent midi/audio recording software, usually they have an audible metronome, but I am still trying to figure out why you are recording your line in and your speaker output?

if you want to do poor-man's-tracks just get audacity, its free

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 01:31
*sighs*
I'm just recording speaker output, but I'm recording stereo mix, which has perfect quality because of no wire and the midi program I use don't export to wav, or any other popular format(uses some script crap) so that is why I'm recording that way

and if I used an audible metronome that goes through the normal speakers then it gets recorded, so I don't want that


WAIT!!
I think I figured out how to do it

I can be running the metronome and then record the music I make to that crappy scripting thing and then play it and record it using stereo mix and acoustica(I hate audacity for recording and putting tracks together, just not very easy to do)

so I guess nvm then about this so forget this thread

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 01:40
i think you just dont fully understand all of the options.
"crappy script thing", wtf is that?

Have a look at kick arse programs like Cakewalk - SONAR Home Studio 4 XL, for example - you'd be amazed at what you can do, and you're right, it's not easy.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 02:22
Well considering I don't have 100's of dollars to go waste on a hobby project I can't get cake walk and such awesome programs


the crappy scripting thing is well hmmm

ok this program supports a scripting thign to play music, like a:1,1,1 will hold A @octave 1 for 1 beat and then have 1 beat of silence and it uses that to record the music and it will save it as some scripted text file, then I'll play the script(which only works in this program) and be recording the stereo output, and voila!

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 02:22
And the reason you're not using an analouge metronome is because...?




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