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Geek Culture / You guessed it, another evil computer!

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stevenup 7002
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Hi guys, yes another evil computer. This is the problem, recently I built a new computer for gaming. And I also bought a Dell. Now, when I turn the Dell on, I can go on the internet and surf anything I want, but this is really strange, when I turn the other computer on, The internet speed on both computers goes to the equvilant of a 15.5K Modem, and I have 1Mbps! They are both connected wirelessly to a Netopia Cayman 3347W Router/Wireless Modem.

Here are the specs:

Dell:
Windows XP Home SP2
1024MB RAM
Nvidia 6200LE
Dell USB 1450U wireless adaptor

1337bOt:
Windows XP Home SP2
512MB RAM
Nvidia 6800
Kinget Wireless PCI card

Thanks in advance,
-Steven

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Chenak
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 14:53 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 15:01
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Well the first problem is you bought a dell

If there is a wall between your router and your wirelesss adaptor then your signal is cut by 95% so that speed would be round about correct.

Only way to be sure it isn't the wireless signal is to hook up some lan cables to your computter and connect them up the the router then see if there is a speed increase.

If hooking up cables to it doesn't improve anything then either your router is screwed or your Internet service providers are not giving you your speed.
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Kenjar
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 15:10 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 15:14
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Quote: "If there is a wall between your router and your wirelesss adaptor then your signal is cut by 95% so that speed would be round about correct."


Rubbish, unless you have lead lined walls reinforced by concreet. I have a wireless router here, and maintain the full 54M/bit from the other end of the building, and 25 meters beyond my buildings walls, and thats from a floor down because I live on the first.

If you bought the machine from DELL then go talk to them about it, or telephone the router/ adapter manufacturer. You paid money so you have a guarentee on the system, I suggest you use it.

Sorry but this is the thrid evil PC thread, its getting old. I wasn't aware that this was a technical support forum for Dell or any other PC manufacturer. Perhaps if you had built the PC yourself I'd have more time for ya.

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stevenup 7002
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 15:21
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Theres two walls between the rooms, its a 10 second walk from the router to the computers. And on both computers, the signal strength is low, ranging from 5.5Mbps to 11Mbps on the dell and 2.0Mbps to 11Mbps on the 1337Bot.

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Chenak
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Quote: "Rubbish, unless you have lead lined walls reinforced by concreet. I have a wireless router here, and maintain the full 54M/bit from the other end of the building, and 25 meters beyond my buildings walls, and thats from a floor down because I live on the first."


Right. 95% was the maximum signal cut according to the tests I performed on my netgear wireless router, signal cut 75-95% through a 15cm thick brick wall. This is without rangemax stuff by the way. Depends what router you get, but I haven't seen one yet that doesn't cut by at least 75% through my wall, I know this because I was fed up with the wires around my house so I tried out wireless which didn't work out. For all know they are lead walls. Are you're walls and floors made of paper by the way?

@steven

Sounds vaguelly like you are using signal b, you need to change to G, should beable to do this on your computer under the wireless device properties.

This should help too

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/wirelesstips.mspx
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SageTech
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 16:07
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Seems I started a trend here.

Quote: "Rubbish, unless you have lead lined walls reinforced by concreet"


That Explains everything!

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Kenjar
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 16:16
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I'm only using a standard AOL Thomson Speed Touch 576 router and a mega cheap Inexq ZyDAS based 802.11G adaptor. No netgear anything. And there are at four walls between me and the end room, and assuming the signal takes a straight line, there are two brick walls because the shape of the flat curves. I get a 77% signal.

I don't think it would make any kind of difference, but I'm using a IPX and NetBUEI based network rather than TCP/IP, perhaps those protocals are more sturdy, though I seriously doubt it.

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stevenup 7002
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Thanks Chenak, I'll try that now. Oh yes, the routers maximum speed is 11mbps.

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indi
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 17:40
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have you tried a wireless scanner like kismac (mac) or netstumbler (win)to see your signal strength?


sometimes raising the router up a little higher can yield better results and tweaking the antenna.

11mbps wireless is not that great and the slower of the two receiver cards usually hampers the other.
have you fed the router both mac address details and only allowed the router broadcast to connect to these mac address's?.
every time i set these up for clients i see a improvement in seek and download times with this method activated.

alternatively someone in your area might have a router that blankets the area with their signal, like
mine when i do file transfers it cripples anything around in my area, by hogging all the available spectrum.

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Kenjar
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That's why routers have channels. There is a netgear router somewhere close to me as well, but both systems co-operate when set to different channels.

11M/bit router?? Get a new one, that thing sounds anchient, just swap ISP services alot of them like AOL give away free routers on their £14.99 packages.

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Flindiana Jones
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 20:04
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Sorry, But AOL is way more evil then any single computer. DON'T get it.

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Kenjar
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 20:17
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I've been with them for over 2 years now. I've had no major problems,and you're not stuck with the AOL 9 software anymore, which frankly isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Besides, get a router with them and it log's in automatically so you can dump their software completely if you wish. The router also makes their service linux compaitible. Also unlike most ISP's you don't have to pay a pound a minute just for technical support, the waiting time is no worse than NTL or any other large provider. Finally, with ADSL it's down to the BT service in your area, even if you are with another telephone company. All these companies do is purchase line space from BT, so no matter who you go with, the service will be idential. Finally, when they say unlimited bandwidth they really do mean it. I've had a stable, constant service for the last 18 months.

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 19:36
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AOL is crap. Most of the time it costs too mutch for what it offers. Get Comcast High Speed..


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Dazzag
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 21:56
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Quote: "If there is a wall between your router and your wirelesss adaptor then your signal is cut by 95%"
Mines fine through 4 walls and up a stairs. Easily got the full 54 speed most of the time, and my 10mbit internet connections still downloads nicely at about 1.25mb a second Now and again I will lose the connection (once every few days) but a standard XP repair will fix it 99% of the time. Since I upgraded the firmware on my router to a homebrew effort (is a Linksys model) then the wireless goes down much less often and the signal is consistantly better. Apparently the Linksys router is shipped with very low strength wireless, and the firmware upgraded put it at a decent level without blowing it up. Plus all the features are much better now, and it was commented on several websites that it was like having the features of a £1000 router. Very nice (although I don't use much of the extra features).

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Kenjar
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Well, nice to see you putting fourth a real arguement Torsten Sorensen, and everyone should do what you say because??


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Flindiana Jones
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 17:37
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Heh...AOL once like totally invited itself onto my parents billing account. It took three weeks of them lying to us to get it cancelled. EVIL.


I fixed my windows internet...it's strange, but what ended up working was switching the processor speed from 1237 Mhz to 1613 Mhz in the BIOS settings. Now it will always stay connected, without any effort. It used to randomly connect, and then disconnect unless I kept it busy. I usually just left it listenening to people spam on Rakion.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 20:22
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Don't use wireless is my answer, I don't, we run 3 computers on the same internet and get the full 4mbps (8mbps as soon as BT can be bothered to install it in our area) From what I've heard people have had too much trouble with them, cables may get in the way, but from the sounds of things is the most efficient method. (I'm saying that and my brother is thinking of replacing everything with Wireless)

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i have had problems with aol, they charged me after a month free trial that i only used two days of then canceled! i only used the trial because ntl were having problems, but this was because they had noticed they hadnt charged us for 3mb internet for about 1/2 year or so, then we got a good deal on the 2mb internet which is now 4mb!!! long live ntl!!!

Scorched Skies is waiting,can you help

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indi
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aol is notorious for gamer lag, its well documented all over the intarweb.

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