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Geek Culture / Composers?

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code master
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 19:38
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How do people compose music? When I say music, I don't mean the underlying instrumental music which I find easy, I mean the tune for the vocals. Cuz' if you sit down and hum something, your likely to end up humming something you've heard somewhere. Does anyone know how these people do it?

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 19:50
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Says the guy who hangs in Geek Culture all day and never does any sort of work.


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code master
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 19:56 Edited at: 27th Jul 2006 19:59
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Eat those words! See what I been doing... Oh wait, were you talking about FS?


Well, anywho.
Quote: "others write great individual music"


See, that's me problem. I have no problem making music, I'm fairly good at it if I do say so myself. But I have trouble putting tunes to the vocals. My vocal tunes mostly sound re-used... Maybe it just something I need to practice...


Oh yea, Kinda unrelated, but whenver I play the attached file on my PC, the subwoofer crackles excesively. Does that signify a problem?

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Saikoro
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 20:28
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Vocals are just another instrument. Think of it that way, and it becomes easier.


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Fallout
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 20:37
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Exactly. What Saikoro said. Just imagine you're adding the melody for another instrument. Infact, I usually compose my vocal melody by sequencing a simple square wave. I come up with a catchy melody, get the vocalist to perform to that melody, then remove the square wave melody and replace with vocals. Obviously it can't be crazy fast ... unless buster rhymes is doing your vocals.

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Oddmind
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 20:53
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Start with an original melody and work your way from the harmonies to the bass line using technical skills.

composing is the midpoint between creative and technical skill.

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Jeku
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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 21:32
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I will play around with my keyboard or guitar for hours, just trying new things out, and sometimes I will stumble upon a riff or a catchy tune. From there I'll learn how to play it myself first, then transfer that over to my sequencer.

I used to get lots of inspiration from certain people or things that happen, but my life is pretty boring right now and the creativity juice has dried


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Oddmind
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 00:35
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heres some inspiration.



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Hobgoblin Lord
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I understand where you are coming from Codemaster, I write stuff all the time and similar to the south park episode with "Simpson's did it!" I often realize "Beatles did it!"

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Tinkergirl
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 01:14
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I don't compose myself (well, not properly) but I read that some composers of rock/pop/modern music find that doing the chord progressions and rhythm before you do the melody will hinder you in creating interesting melodic patterns. You'll be more tempted to just sing along with the chords, and not go and do your own thing.

*shrugs* There are others here who would have more experience with such a thing than I.

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 01:27
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It's easy. Just visit the idea shop down the corner.


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Joe Cooning
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 06:04
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There is a method that some composers use by randomly picking out notes, writing them down, then trying them out and see what they can do with it. It's called serialism. Check it out.

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Agent Dink
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Heh, I do that to make up a guitar riff occasionally, sometimes it works out well.

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