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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] TGC debate forum

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 22:36
As promised, I've created the "rough draft" of a TGC debate forum. The idea here is simple: If you want to discuss something with TGC forum members that would go against the AUP or otherwise turn into a raging arguement, do so at these new forums as opposed to starting trouble here. Not that I'm saying I'm innocent or anything, but I'm sick of taking the blame for starting every arguement on TGC (and I don't btw, I just make them worse lol), and I never seem to get credit for any of the things I try to do that are positive on the forums, so here, munch on this forum and praise me for once unless you hate the idea, and inevitably some people will, in which case bah, at least I tried

Anyway, this is just a rough draft. If you think something should be changed, don't just say "uh, change that." Offer serious input. If you don't like the color scheme, tell me why and suggest a new one. If you think a new forum should be added or one should be removed, tell me why. One-dimensional criticism will be ignored The forum can be accessed at http://tgcdebates.forumco.com/default.asp. As it stands, I will NOT be making anyone a mod unless they're already a mod here, on the real TGC, so don't ask hehe. If a few weeks goes by and no mods register, I'll open the possibility for regular TGC users to request mod-ship. If you're a TGC mod and you're interested in joining the forum, please e-mail me beforehand so I know that you're willing to be a mod on TGC debates. Any other questions or whatever, please leave them here. I hope this helps keep TGC on-track and maybe if I'm lucky I'll have done something right on here for once


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code master
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 22:41
Hey, Cool!

Have some penguins...





Megaton Cat
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:00 Edited at: 28th Jul 2006 23:06
Yeah, the effort is worthy of 3 penguins, but most people don't bother branching off from TGC to a freebie forum, so these type of forums have an extremely low success rate. (Not to mention they're dead silent most of the time)

I doubt Jeku, Cash, Hobgoblin and other people who arn't exactly your biggest fans would bother signing up.


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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:05
Free forums? C'mon...

You can host a forum on my site (need to do something with all my space...20GB+)


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:11
I'm pretty sure that neither Jeku or Cash hate or dislike me. At least I hope they don't. You can argue with someone a bunch and not hate them. I argue with you Megaton and I don't hate you Hobgoblin on the other hand, that's a recent development, me arguing with him, so who knows what he thinks.

@ Torsten: I'm a terrible web designer. Look at my website if you don't believe me lol. If I can host a forum on your site without the muss and fuss of trying to make it look pretty, then cool, but if I'd have to code anything then unfortunately I'll need to decline your offer.


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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:22
I didn't use the word "hate" in my post yet you did, several times.

No they don't hate you with a burning passion or anything like that, but if they had to choose between the TGC forums and an empty forum with just Matt Rock, I rekon they'd go for the TGC forums.


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SirFire
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:30 Edited at: 28th Jul 2006 23:31
A major downside to that forum is that you must register before you can view the content.

I'll wager few people will get past the registration page without knowing if it's worth their time.

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Also, those "free forum" websites usually harvest personal info about registrants and sell the info to spammers.

Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 28th Jul 2006 23:54
Matt, I would put together a forum for you, and manage uploading styles and stuff, you just moderate, and choose what people can and cannot do, its simple. Just tell me what kind of forum you would like (i.e. phpBB, smf, etc), or, I could host you a PHP Fusion or PHP Nuke site, if you like.


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 00:18
Quote: "I doubt Jeku, Cash, Hobgoblin and other people who arn't exactly your biggest fans would bother signing up."


Quote: "Hobgoblin on the other hand, that's a recent development, me arguing with him, so who knows what he thinks."


Other then the fact that your a
I have no problems with you Matt. I agree with alot of the things you say, other things I don't. I post in general when I think only one side of something is being presented. I have posted many times about a position I don't hold myself just to keep a discussion represented by all sides. Will I join another forum, especially one that could fill my email with even more spam, not sure about that.

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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 00:30
Quote: "Yay, a tgc side forum where i can post about drugs hacking and copyright "


Bet ya get locked there too

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 02:08
And I can already tell you what he's going to say.




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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 02:48
What is with this 'No' crap??? Lol


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 03:01
this post is a 'massdebate'

Oddmind
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 03:37
pfffff....ffff...

I have to sign up just to laugh at what youre arguing about or about how many people (or lack thereof) signed up to talk?

The people you argue with are the ones who really dont care to join up. They are arguing to tell you your wrong, not because they like it.

You have a serious problem, your so obsessed with arguing you have a rants section on your website, not a small one at that.

I think this is retarded, just as arguing on the internet is.

Megaton put it to me this way, and ive said this in another of your threads.

It's like the special olympics, if you win or lose your still retarded.

and before you start on how I shouldn't say retard... Retard.

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SirFire
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 03:59
Flamewar on.

Megaton Cat
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 04:05
Ma fur is on fiiiire.


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CattleRustler
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 04:09

its on

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Insanity Complex
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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 04:22 Edited at: 29th Jul 2006 04:23
Quote: "and before you start on how I shouldn't say retard... Retard."


You should say it more Oddmind...I think there's no such thing as overuse or incorrect use of a word such as that, especially in a case where the word fits the situation.

I'm beginning to realize how long it's been since I strayed away from the 3D board and actually read any of the threads here...


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 04:56
Quote: "and before you start on how I shouldn't say retard... Retard"


Glad you find the word funny, my 11 year old with Downs Syndrome doesn't.

Quote: "The people you argue with are the ones who really dont care to join up. They are arguing to tell you your wrong, not because they like it."


I can't speak for everyone, I likely will not join because I don't need another company selling my info to a bazillion mortgage companies and genitalia enlargement firms. That said however, Matt makes alot of well thought out good statements, I just get annoyed at the blurred line between opinion and fact he sometimes crosses. I don't argue with him to tell him he is wrong, but to present more information, whether he chooses to accept my info or not is up to him, and he generally has more constructive comments then this.

Quote: "I think this is retarded, just as arguing on the internet is."


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 05:04
I'm sure you well know I was not insulting anyone with actualy mental disabilities, as that would be crossing the line.

And no I don't feel bad for saying it.

Matt has good points when he knows what he's talking about and does research.

time and time again I will research his points in the several textbooks I have lying around and find them to be wrong and half truth's.

I don't even bother to read them anymore.

@matt

If so many people accuse you for starting arguements don't you think there might be some truth in there?

I mean they are tlaking about the ones you are involved in and ususally only have 1 or 2 people on your side, that is a clue to who started it.

They really dont start at a certain point, and therefore no one can usually be blamed, but if one individual is in the group of 4-5 people every time... then we have a singled out person.

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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 05:18
I really think starting a forum were you can go and say all the things you want to say but can't say on the TGC forums is a waste of time! I mean it just seems like a scheme to bypass the rules! Nothing personal against you Matt Your a great guy who always writes long posts

Personally I think that the majority of people wouldn't be interested who wants to go an talk C*ap at annother forum (Which is agaist the AUP to advertise your forum)! I in fact was going to join until SirFire said that Free Forum Hosters sell you info to spammers! Whoa! I drew the line there!

If anyone here think I am rambling please let me know and I will go back to bed! I am so sleepy!


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 05:28 Edited at: 29th Jul 2006 05:28
Quote: "I'm sure you well know I was not insulting anyone with actualy mental disabilities, as that would be crossing the line"


This may not have been your intent, but say you called him a NWORD, just because you are not pointing it directly at an African American does not make it any less insulting to some who may read it.

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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 05:38
Oddmind, do the world a favor and sew your mouth shut. I'm sick to death of you... ALL you ever do is complain. If you don't like my posts, if you don't like my comments, you have two choices: Ignore my posts or shut up already. First of all, I don't bring up most of these topics, I just comment on them and people like you whine and moan about how evil of a person I am for voicing my opinion. At least I have one. At least I know enough about the subject to actually feel a certain way about it, I don't just rip off the opinions of those around me like a parasite. No one ever told you to visit my website, either, so you can shut up about that too. What I post on my website is my business, and seeing as how you don't own the internet or my site or any of the companies that make my site exist, and since I only put my site there so I could talk about things that bother me with no limitations or social awkwardness weighing me down, that sums up to you not having a say AT ALL in what I do with it. If you're bothered by my website, don't visit it. How hard is that? I've gotten everything from love letters to death threats from that website and either way I just don't care. And by the way, when was the last time I said something that wasn't accurate? Please humor me and let me know. I'm fed up with constantly being labeled as some raving idiot who talks too much about stuff I have no clue about. I attended college, I learned a thing or two, and while I don't brag about how smart I am (or EVER claim to be smarter than anyone else) I CERTAINLY won't stand by silently while people like you criticize me and call me a "retard." If you're looking to pick a fight, you've got one. There's lots of things I could call you but the AUP forbids profanity. I don't care if you get picked on in school, but don't take out your teen angst on someone with teeth You want to try and be insulting? Call your friends and get some good lines from them buddy because we're in for a looooong chat.

I didn't make this forum because I wanted people to argue with me, I made it so that whenever topics come up that the AUP forbids (and I'd hate to break this to you, but there have been A LOT of locked threads that I had nothing to do with), people can argue about it elsewhere and TGC can stay on-topic. I didn't do this for my benefit, I did this for EVERYONE'S benefit, thinking it might be appreciated. I created the text adventure competition and whenever I can I try to dish up honest help in any way I can whenever the opportunity arises. I'm not the devil, I'm not some evil jerk who complains because he has nothing better to do. I try to help people when I can but that's simply ignored by most people, probably because YOU are looking to pick a fight and you think I'm an easy target. I tried to be peaceful and people egged me on. I tried to make this forum and you insult me. Whose the jerk because it's certainly not me.

I said harsh things in here because Oddmind called me a retard and the mods stood by and said "eh, screw it." Good. From now on I'll say whatever I want and you mods can have that same attitude. And the next person who sends me a whiney e-mail saying I'm a jerk because I voice my opinions can go "love" themselves. The next time Oddmind opens his yap and starts talking crap, you'll see a very nasty side of me the likes of which you've never seen, because I'm sick and tired of being insulted and made out to be a "Ravenous" villain. If you want me to leave TGC, say the word and poof, I'm gone right after the text adventure competition ends. I've already been considering that because I'm obviously not wanted by anyone. But not you Oddmind. You've just entered the list of people who have absolutely no right to share my oxygen. I don't care about your opinion because you don't have one, nor are you worth the brain cells you waste while trying to come up with a unique thought. And again, if anyone is wondering, Oddmind started this crap, not me. If you don't have anything useful to say, keep your mouth shut. And so far, you haven't. You might call me a "retard," but at least I'm mature enough to not stoop to your level... I just figured for once I'd give it a whirl and see what it feels like to be as pathetic as you are. I don't like it.


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 05:57 Edited at: 29th Jul 2006 05:58
Quote: "I said harsh things in here because Oddmind called me a retard and the mods stood by and said "eh, screw it." Good. From now on I'll say whatever I want and you mods can have that same attitude."


Very broad generalisations that are pretty meaningless in perspective. One mod deemed that post unoffensive, which may or may not be representative of the rest of us. Either way, the eye for an eye rule never really works. I'm locking this before it descends further.


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Posted: 29th Jul 2006 14:47
Quote: "One mod deemed that post unoffensive"

if that was about me I didnt read this drivel, I skimmed it, and was only commenting on Matt's new fight forum.

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