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Zaibatsu
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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 20:57
I don't know if anyone here has ever heard of this, but is a game where you take the part of the sniper who killed JFK. It's quite realistic, and even though I shouldn't, i find it rather fun

anyways, heres the results from a funny bullet in a round i shot, check the parts circled in red!

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Jeff Miller
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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 21:13
What an awful game. Even today people my age recall the despair and sorrow they suffered on the day JFK was killed. It is beyond my comprehension how anyone could find it "rather fun".
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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 21:21
Congratulations on killing the president.
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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 21:35
thats just sick...


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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 21:45
An alarm went off in a dark cellar full of switches and routers just now.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 21:51
I remember a thread about this game a long time ago:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=43211&b=2

It's wrong. Imagine if someone made a computer game about, say Princess Diana's death. I don't see how people come up with these 'game' concepts

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:00 Edited at: 1st Aug 2006 23:01
I there's merit in making a ballistics simulation into a game, but the topic really is distasteful.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:17
There was an article about this (the jkf game) in the local paper a year ago or so. A lot of wise and informed comments ensued on the dangers of modern games from respectable people. No, really.

I personally think it's not worth it. A mediocrum (sp?) of enterainment for a lot of contraversy... not at all like, say madness combat, where you get a lot of enterainment for a lot of contraversy


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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:33
Quote: "thats just sick..."


It's probably just me, but how is that any more sick than any other game where you kill people?


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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:38
It's nothing compared to the atrocity of the newer GTA games. I have nothing against GTA 1 and 2, they were harmless little top down shooters, but three and up were barbaric. I have nothing aganst Barbaric games, but they exploited it to a point where it was not even fun...

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:38
Quote: "It's probably just me, but how is that any more sick than any other game where you kill people?"


I dont think it is, If you have no problems with GTA then you should have no problem with this game. I actually think this is in better taste then GTA since it a historical event, right along with the frontline style games.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:50
Quote: ""It's probably just me, but how is that any more sick than any other game where you kill people?""


Because its the president


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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:53 Edited at: 1st Aug 2006 23:56
Quote: "Because its the president"


not just the president, you can also shoot at the VP, The Governer, The Governer's wife, and the First Lady. And at nameless officers and agents.

and that's not any worse than killing hundreds of pedestrians and police officers, swat team members, the army, bombing buildings, stealing cars, pummeling people to death, visiting strip joints and prostitute places, working drug deals, being in gang fights, drive by shootings and beeing an a-hole in genereal, all of which is in the later gta's

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Posted: 1st Aug 2006 23:58
Because you are targeting actual good people who died. It's not like your taking down Hitler.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 00:02
I don't see a problem with this--- not any worse than any WW II game. However it's treading on the distasteful line just a bit--- I mean what's next, the sequel with RFK?


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 00:06 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2006 00:06
I personaly dont play GTA or games like that, and dont try to compare this to HALO. This game is a descrace, what are they going to make next a book on how to kill political leaders? How whould you feel ablout this game if it was Tony Blair or Priensess Diana?


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 00:12
I dunno-- people nowadays are just too sensitive--- always looking for things to get offended by. If there was, say, a 9-11 flight sim, *then* I'd be shocked and appalled. However, free speech entitles us to make and buy these kinds of games, and if you're against it then write your senator or just don't buy the game. As easy as that!


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 00:14
Quote: "How whould you feel ablout this game if it was Tony Blair or Priensess Diana?"
Erm, according to the location information against each user then the only person from the UK to post on this thread was against the game. And he mentioned Diana. As it happens you are totally barking up the wrong tree with the Tony Blair comment. Jeku said he didn't see a problem, so change the comment to somebody from Canada. Erm, whoever that may be....

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Oh, and I think the horse has bolted on being disgusted by computer games. I mean GTA allowed you to run over a line of religious people and get points for it for gods sake. I mean it was really hard to get the whole line....

Plus this was from 2004; it's even abandonware now. Why the sudden outrage? And forgive the scottish (they wrote it) as they know no better Then again if it wasn't for scotland there would be no GTA.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 01:09
Where did u download it from, I can't find the game anywhere?
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 01:33
It's abandonware now. I assume this means should be fairly easy to find.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 02:07
Quote: "Tony Blair or Priensess Diana"


I don't know who either one of those are...

and if you can't find it, WITH A MODS PERMISSION i will upload it for you

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 02:17
Quote: ""Tony Blair or Priensess Diana""


Problem here is one is living one is not. In my opinion making a game to hunt down and kill Blair may be a little to much since not only is he still alive but a prominent leader. Princess Diana on the other hand, if someone wanted to make a game where you had to take pictures of her car till the flashbulbs blinded the driver and made it crash, while tasteless, would be no worse then many games out there.

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People are desensitized, People are desensitized, Violence causes candid cries! Angels singing of our lies, People are desensitized, People are desensitized.... Why wont the speakers hear ouuur cries..? Violence, Disturbance, Flowing with the Rest, do we feel alone in cries? People will become Sensitized!

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Wow! after reading that I suddenly feel like eating Tofu, not washing, and protesting things for reasons I don't understand.

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Except all it was about was violence. Tofu sucks btw. And, I like washing 2 times a day. Go protest, less power to yah!

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Quote: "Tofu sucks btw"


yes, Tofu tastes like styraphome

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once a week, sometimes less

Quote: "reasons I don't understand"


no mere mortal can understand those things

Quote: "People are desensitized, People are desensitized, Violence causes candid cries! Angels singing of our lies, People are desensitized, People are desensitized.... Why wont the speakers hear ouuur cries..? Violence, Disturbance, Flowing with the Rest, do we feel alone in cries? People will become Sensitized!
"


people are too sensitive, you can't have this becuase it's too violent, you can't have that becuase it's too sexual, you can't have those becuase they use foul language. we need to desensitive ourselves so we can have a fun time. now I don't read the bible often, but only one verse stuck with me, I don't remember its refernce but I remember the words

"The theif comes only to steal and kill and destroy, I have come so that they may have life, and have it to the full"

that means we should live our lives to the fullest, have all the fun we desire, becuase nothing in this world is forever, so we should have fun while we can, not worry about silly morals or rules. some rules should be enfoced, but the lesser ones can be bent, stretched and sometimes broken. and another verse that stuck with me, "Let us cast of all that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perserverance the race marked out for us"

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by the way. do i have MOD's permission to upload JFK reloaded?

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 04:01 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2006 04:02
there's a difference between killing fictional, no-name characters like in CoD2 and killing a real person who's family is still alive to see this horrible creation


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Quote: "I don't know who either one of those are...
"


...

erm

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 04:55
so making a game where hunting down tony blair is bad, but making a countless number of flash games wher eyou hunt down osama bin laden is completely fair....

this thread isn't about politics its about a ballistics simulator. It just involves the jfk assasination, it doesn't go YOU GOT $200 FOR KILLING THE PRESIDENT GOOD JOB! GREAT WORK YEAH!!! i tjust shows you where you hit and how the bullet reacts to objects etc. In fact it's nearmost educational, and if you aren't allowed to have fun in learning something then what's the point of learning! the problem I see for americans is that they hold jfk in very high respect, fair enough he was a great leader at the time, but what about all the cowboy games and tv shows/movies where indians are being killed, and all the other indecencies in movies these days, they should go unpunished.

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Quote: "so making a game where hunting down tony blair is bad, but making a countless number of flash games wher eyou hunt down osama bin laden is completely fair...."


Pretty much, yeah.

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I agree with Jeku in that people take this too seriously, but at the same time I think the time and effort that went into making this game would have been better spent on doing something else. They [the developers of this game] "claim" that they were trying to prove that Oswald could have done it on his own, but any competent person should be more than able to see that they're just looking for publicity. I don't see a problem with assassinating fictional presidents, but re-living a moment like this? It's distasteful and crude and I have absolutely no respect for the people who created it. People are being too sensitive about it, but the creators did that on purpose, so shame on them


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Quote: "Pretty much, yeah."


dont get me wrong I don't like osama, but think about it, he ordered people to attack somewhere, there are people who hail him as a hero. tony blair ordered an attack on somewhere, there are people who think he is a hero. All I am saying is look at it from both sides, not just your own.

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Quote: "I mean it was really hard to get the whole line...."



ROFL

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2006 06:17
Thanks for turning this into yet another political debate.


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