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Steve J
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Posted: 9th Aug 2006 13:59 Edited at: 9th Aug 2006 14:00
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I remember late 80's pretty well, well barely anymore. I only liked a few select hard rock bands, still only like a few. When I became a teen, hard rock started dieing out, being replaced with grunge garage bands, and amazing bands such as tool, nin, nirvana, and many, oh so many more. The fad died quick, leaving "Pop" holes. Horrible brittney spears music, hip-hop, and a series of painful rock bands, and a few not so painful ones. Now a series of "dance rock" bands of become popular in months, even weeks. Saikoro so kindly pointed out "Panic! at the Disco". Dear god. A few people know what makes me scream. In horror.

1)Zombies
2) Missing an episode of BSG
3) American Idol
4) Cruddy guitar playing (me mainly)
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5) "Dance Rock"

So let me show you a link to this "rock"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1lK9ioPAUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Q_Yh0HbPw

If you are old enough to know how painful this is for us older people, shed but a tear, for finally, just finally I believe 90's rock has become a blackened crust of itself, an example of the 80's and 70's before it. Any comments on the start of this plague of crappy rock?

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As a fan of Queen - I hear your pain. I dont think there has been a decent cover of any of the songs - although I personally though G4's cover of Bo Rhap wasn't too bad. At least they tried and they can definately sing! But it wasn't Queen...

Very few songs are any good now.

When we look back 10, 20 and 30 years we can pick out some fantastic classics in any genre. What the hell are we gonna do in 2030 when we look back at Y2K? "Ahhh son... when I was you're age... "

What are we gonna tell them?

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Hit me baby one more time

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Modern songs are too busy trying to be unique, I mean people who like the harder side of pop might enjoy the new Placebo album, yeah, I did forget to take my meds, did you gits forget to write some lyrics?

Personally I'm glad that Pearl Jam are still going strong - modern bands suck.

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They are? Man, I have been out of tune=P

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Quote: "When we look back 10, 20 and 30 years we can pick out some fantastic classics in any genre. What the hell are we gonna do in 2030 when we look back at Y2K? "Ahhh son... when I was you're age... "

What are we gonna tell them?"

Thats why I play music. I'll make my own classics so 50 Cent and Fallout Boy don't have to. They'll be personal classics, but it definitely won't be an exchange of music for theatrics. I don't care about what genre the music is: if you write, play, record, and perform it with your whole soul, about you, it becomes a classic. Stories and bragging doesn't make your songs classics. Heart and soul does.

Lets see if anyone can distinguish the difference between

Tupac
Radiohead
Biggie
Tool
NIN
Queen
Satriani

to

50 Cent
Britney Spears
Panic! At the Disco
Nickelback
3 Doors Down
Shakira
Blink 182
Malmsteen


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Posted: 9th Aug 2006 16:56
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Every generation has this very same discussion. When I was young... well, point is, music is a question of taste.
And for that you'll find that there's an incredible amount of crap produced no matter what your favourite music style is. Although there's a lot more to "modern" music than... well... just the music, its main mission is to entertain people. And if people enjoy "shallow" pop music, it's ok. If people enjoy hip hop, it's ok. If people enjoy progressive metal, it's ok. To put the attribute "sophisticated" on any of today's music styles is a little audacious anyhow. No matter how fast you can run up and down a pentatonic scale, it doesn't affect the quality of your music.

I personally like and listen to a lot of different styles of music whenever I have the chance to do so. Sometimes there's a lot to discover "under the hood" so to speak.

Oh, and I do like the new Placebo album... not as much as the previous one, but I think it's pretty good.


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So do I - but come on, that title track is damn repetitive, I always liked the clever lyrics with Placebo songs - their older stuff has a lot more substance to it. My point is that it's more poppy, repetitive and clearly is aimed at a more pop audience, festival goers etc - it's not gonna be on anyones favourite album list but I imagine it'll make them a decent chunk of money and some new fans. Never know, they might grow some for the next album and bring it back to the original style that earned them their fame.

Meanwhile I'll stick on 'Pure Morning' for old times sake .

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Posted: 9th Aug 2006 17:15 Edited at: 9th Aug 2006 17:15
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Yep agreed about the title track. Some lyrics are quite ok, but I see your point. And yes, the first time I heard "Pure Morning" I actually had to laugh. The first verse is simply brilliant.


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Quote: "Personally I'm glad that Pearl Jam are still going strong"

I don't know about that, have you heard their last album?

Who the heck is Panic! At the Disco? People are talking about them everywhere and I don't think I've ever heard them. Some pop emo band?

I liked my 80's pop music; inxs,huey lewis,marky mark! (ok im a dork) But I also loved the grunge era, alice in chains was the best.


Speaking of bohemian rhapsody remakes......
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The closest thing to a good new band I've heard is Audioslave, but you can't really call them new.

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PJ are kinda wobbly just now, but for good reason - they played out their recording deal and the last album was the first one they've really had total control over, that's why it's self titled after like a dozen albums. Listen to 'Army Reserve' though, that's classic PJ - the other songs seem very inspired (Beatles, Stones etc).

A good album to look out for is 'Lost Dogs', there's some rarer stuff on it but some great songs, like 'Hold On' especially (my 2nd fave PJ song).

I'm really more impressed by how they can still fill Madison Sq Garden after 16-or so years - there aren't many bands left these days with such staying power.

Pearl Jam rock, admit it! (without calling me a fanboy please)

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If you think you can do better, make your own!!!



hahaha. Sorry, that's clearly a joke. Isn't it annoying when people say that? I stopped listening to rock/metal a long time a go. I havent heard anything to catch my interest in a long time.

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Have you, perhaps, reached the magic age-bracket 18-26? Because that's generally when people start to notice that all the 'new' stuff is rubbish. Happens to generation after generation.

You'll realise that having the newest phone isn't actually nessisary, that the newest Ipoddy-thing is not much better than the older ones, that the new music isn't actually all that great, and that paying hundreds of $/£ for the newest clothes isn't actually required to keep yourself warm. Oh, and more appropriately for this forum - that all the new games out, aren't actually 'all that' just because of an extra shader or the year in the title being incremented by one.

There's just an age when it hits you. Any younger, and everything is still new and cool, and no-one can tell you that it isn't.

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Dear god, that's all painfully true. If you get it really bad like me, you think all people are a waste of time as well, and you end up wishing for a nuclear appocolypse and a fresh start for all the 'roaches.

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Actually a lot of modern music is very good, just don't look at the mainstreams, there are good main streams that I like, but there are good'ns out there. I hate this hip-hop crap as much as the next guy, but there are good quality bands laying around, Symphony X and Dream Theatre are good bands, you don't see them on your main channels, what about Threshold and Stratovarius, they're not very 80's who cares, but they are top quality bands, they don't just sing about boy friends and girlfriends, dying, being better than everybody else, a bustin' a cap in yo ass. I'll probaly be saying goodbye to some of the mainstream stuff in the next decade and new types of bands will come, better or worse than the current ones. No point complaining about change, because it happens.

But I here ya about the changes being crap though, I've notice how things have crappified, when I was year 7, people we're so much nicer and behave and now as year 13 I think, wow that kid is a real little sh*t, I never knew anyone like that at his age, the most misbehaved kid in our year was Fuzzy and well he challenge the most strict teacher and yet is a good student, those 'little sh*ts; I refer to will be doing drugs on the common outside the school getting stoned owing money to 5 differant dealers.

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Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy:

It's really just a matter of corporate saturation, ~95% of people who enjoy listening to music mostly listen to the music that radio, TV, or their friends have presented to them. And as a rule of thumb, commercial music media companies follow formulas about what music to play, because historically those formulas have proven profitable. So what you end up with is an endless series of bands and songs that begin to sound rather monotonous. Every once in a while, something will break through that is a bit different and catches your attention, but soon you realise it's just another variation on the themes you've heard all along.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2006 19:30 Edited at: 9th Aug 2006 19:31
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At least you probably haven't got to the slippers and scarves being actually a good idea yet.

Personally I caught myself the other day thinking how I preferred James Blunt's slower songs to his more *harder* stuff I had to then put on some Megadeth and Alice in Chains to shake the bland away. Annoyingly these songs are getting on a bit now and so probably come across as dated or retro. Cry. Nevermind, they did better music "back in the day". Cry again... Although no-one will persuade me that Cash's version of Hurt (NiN classic) is *not* the best song this decade.... God, better go all out and get those chequered slippers I mean Cash for god sake... nooooo.....

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That's why I prefer to listen to bands that don't really sound like anyone else--- Beck, Bjork, Daft Punk, Air (not Air Supply), Bran Van 3000, and a few others.

If my radio is on in the car, it's on talk radio. Otherwise it's my own mix or a CD I most likely bought 10 years ago


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Ah the good ole days. Really though there are few current bands I like, mostly because I am a guitar nut and Grunge killed the need to learn to play, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden aside they were left over from the metal era. Newer bands, or at least those in the last 5 or so years I like are things like Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, Sevendust, Tantric. I rarely listen to the radio anymore It just sort of annoys me, my most recent CD purchases were Boston's Boston and Jethro Tull's Aqualung (both needed replacing for a long time).

Quote: "
[b]Tupac - not a fan
Radiohead[/b] - original
Biggie - pttht
Tool - great, but do they have a future Maynard seems pretty commited to Alice in Chains now.
NIN - Great, but still no Ministry
Queen - Nuf said their royalty
Satriani - Someone who could play mary had a little lamb and make it sound brand new.

to

50 Cent - 49 cents to much
Britney Spears - the reason I invested in an earplug company
Panic! At the Disco - never heard them
Nickelback - Not the greatest but better then alot of the current bands I think
3 Doors Down - If only I could nail the doors shut.
Shakira - nothing new, nothing good.
Blink 182 - had a couple ok songs but I never got a CD.
Malmsteen - King of his style, but afraid to leave the niche he carved. Still great to listen to and play but he will likely never put out a song that will sound different then he did in 1989.
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Quote: "Personally I caught myself the other day thinking how I preferred James Blunt's slower songs to his more *harder* stuff I had to then put on some Megadeth and Alice in Chains to shake the bland away"


Replace James Blunt with Damien Rice, Megadeth with Opeth and Alice in Chains with Lamb of God, you got me there, Damien Rice is great, but I see no harm in listening to it with some of the heavy stuff, but I do like to be varied. Pavorotti is definately better than Slayer Slayer's is too boring, as Bill Bailey put it. 'heleeeww we're called slayer and all our songs sound the same...CHEMICAL WARFARE! *frantically strums guitar* REIGN IN BLOOD *Plays the same frantic 'song' on the guitar*'

Quote: "That's why I prefer to listen to bands that don't really sound like anyone else"


Yeah, it works sometimes to have similar sounding bands, because some styles are left a bit dark, like mixing metal with something symphonic, symphony X and Rhapsody may sound quite similar, but I'd listen to them both. On the other hand, at download Trivium attempted a Metallica sound and failed (I didn't see Trivium, I think I was seeing another band, but caught it on TV afterwards) I liked how they played normaly, because although it wasn't too differant, but they weren't thinking, Hell yeah the next metallica!...But I love to see originality a lot more. At least in the mainstream market System of a Down, DragonForce, Damien Rice and a few others are still unique.

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Actualy $100 too much, for having to put up with that sort of torture, we deserve compensation

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I havent reached the magic age bracket yet Tink, I've known from day 1 that modern music was crap. Of course modern music back then was the very begginning of Grunge and Hip Hop.

I listen to a strange mix of things,

Air Supply, The Doors, Bob Dylan, bit of Hendrix, Queen, Cafe Del Mar, Portishead, Of montreal, Animal Collective, and Led Zeppelin when I'm int he mood.

Most people think I like hardcore music because I happen to go to some of those shows, I only have 2 hardcore albums on my computer out of the 15 gigabytes of music that I have.

The first one is a 5 song EP given to me by the singer of this local band for helping unpack there stuff.

The second is the Number Twelve Looks Like You, which I use sometimes to wake up.

I really wish that the days of Jim Morrison, the Beatles and Zeppelin weren't over. I never got to experience any of that, and now I'm stuck with f*cking Panic at the Disco!.

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Quote: "I really wish that the days of Jim Morrison, the Beatles and Zeppelin weren't over"
Too right. 20 years after getting into music I still can't decide between the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Ah. Sugar just loaded on the iPod. Used to be a top band..... Pond now.... another ignored brilliant band.... Ozric tentacles.... hmmm, not exactly going with the original thoughts of this post.... Aha. Kiss just loaded up. Heh, yep, I'm a closet Kiss fan

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Pratically everyone likes this band at my school, except me. They are like a ska/punk band. Also, everybody likes Green Day these days. All these kids think they're punk, but they aren't, because Green Day is now a pop band. Music these days is not good, it's all manufactured. Nobody listens to the good music because no one plays it on the radio or on TV.
I listen to Rammstein, Dream Theater, Ozric Tentacles, and progressive rock bands. Rammstein is awesome, and Ozric Tentacles rules, I just got their new album.

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Yes Tinkerbell, I realised it long ago, when I turned 23, but now, now, I am sure that all of the pwntastic 70's, 80's, and 90's rock has died out and turned to only a hollow shell thanks to pop rock.

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I think Rammstein are not as good as they were, if you want to keep from the manufactured crap, just look around in little cravasses for them, they are so much better. I used to like Green Day, then they went emo, initially Green Day were a bunch of guys who were passionate about their stuff, they even recorded their albums with no real changes so it would sound like what they would play live, theeen, they went down that route, the same one Marilyn Manson went down. And I agreee Green Day are not punk, punk rock at the start, yes and now just pop with guitars. Real punk is the Dead Kennedies, Sex Pistols and those lot, just because tre cool is trying to look like Sid Viscious doesn't mean they're punk...fools.

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Threshold and Dream Theater are about the only recent stuff that I like, but I agree with Jeku I tend to listen to stuff that sounds unique (Rob Dougan, Mike Oldfield...).
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You guys need to stop moaning, get a copy of Waterloo to Anywhere by the Dirty Pretty Things, sit back and enjoy!

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Quote: "You guys need to stop moaning, get a copy of Waterloo to Anywhere by the Dirty Pretty Things, sit back and enjoy!"


Never!


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Quote: "I havent reached the magic age bracket yet Tink, I've known from day 1 that modern music was crap. Of course modern music back then was the very begginning of Grunge and Hip Hop.

I listen to a strange mix of things,"

Quote: "I really wish that the days of Jim Morrison, the Beatles and Zeppelin weren't over. I never got to experience any of that, and now I'm stuck with f*cking Panic at the Disco!."


Ditto.
I've just about given up on modern rock. Newest things I've listened to have been Audioslave and Red Hot Chili Peppers. Not really modern. Though I like that Threshold song on their site alot.

When I'm looking for something modern my best bet is usually the Closer to the Sun album from Slightly Stoopid. It's mostly accoustic, but they're talented and can write a good song. It may be a cross between blues and reggae, but it's still great.

Now I'm off to listen to Journey.


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If I had to go with a modern band it would be *thinks*...*scrolls through iPod* Dave Matthews Band is really the most recent music that I have and like...

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Quote: "Dave Matthews Band is really the most recent music that I have and like..."

Matt, don't get mad at him... think of how horrible Panic! is...


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lol it's okay, he can live hehe

Hip hop is probably the worst... it didn't roll down hill, it went off the other end and squashed into the ground. Remember Afrika Bambata, and Run DMC, and even the Wu Tang Clan? They had a message, even when that message was just having fun. Their music "spoke" to people, and it wasn't "yo, shootin' people and stealin' stuff and smokin' dope is HOT y'all." (unless you count the stuff ODB did). But that was back when rappers could freestyle, and that's a dead art. It takes a lot of talent to come up with a song like "I Can't Go to Sleep" by the Wu *entirely* freestyled, without letting a pen hit paper. Some hip hop groups are doing that still, like The Roots and Jurassic 5, but they go widely unnoticed

As far as rock goes, everyone already knows who my favorite band is so I don't need to reiterate it But yes, rock has gone downhill, especially in the past six years


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Most recent thing I bought was Espers II. Pretty good stuff, but obscure methinks. Oh, and I got Loveless (My Bloody Valentine), although thats half a decade old now Oh, and the new Def Leppard album (stupidly titled "Yeah!"). Can't get away from the best rock band when I was a kid Oh, and I bought every album on CD (had them on cassette) of Sisters of Mercy. Awesome awesome brilliant band that one. Again, not new though.... Pass me my glasses and hot milk drink....

Hmmm, new Ozrics album eh? Must check it out...

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The last thing I bought was either "Radiohead: Hail to the Thief," "Beastie Boys: The Five Burroughs," or that semi-new Doves album... unless you count my girlfriend re-getting me "Debut" because I'd lost the original disc. Man, I love her. My girlfriend, not Bjork!


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Debut--- one of the greatest albums of all time

Except Track 5, Like Falling in Love--- one of the worst songs on all the albums I own


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Van B: I saw that dogs album on AMG the other day, but haven't gotten around to buying any songs on it, but I did like it. Glad to see someone has heard of it and likes it

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Quote: "Debut--- one of the greatest albums of all time"

Top 10 without contest, arguably the top 5, and it's on my top 3, along with "OK Computer" and "Parklife" "Pinkerton" is probably 4th, or maybe "The Bends"... hard to decide but "Post" comes in strong in 5th place on my list of fav's

Edit: And anyone who knows the bands that recorded those albums wins a cookie!


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What abot Jimmy Eat World? Most of their songs are great. Some stuff kinda sucks. I love their songs called "Sweetness" and "Night Drive"



And uh, Placebo has a new album? I only like few of their songs, the rest I hate because of his horrible squeaky Micky-Mouse-Meets-MTV Voice.

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Yah, I've been listening to Jimmy Eat World a lot at work, and truth be told I like almost all of their songs I hear. It's always nice and refreshing to "discover" a new band you hadn't heard of before.

Although I could do without "Sweetness" as I've heard way too much of it from NHL 2003


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Matt Rock -
OK Computer = Radiohead
Parklife = Blur
Pinkerton = Weezer

and yes, I knew all of them on the spot.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2006 03:29 Edited at: 11th Aug 2006 03:29
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Quote: "Have you, perhaps, reached the magic age-bracket 18-26? Because that's generally when people start to notice that all the 'new' stuff is rubbish. Happens to generation after generation."

I promised myself that would never happen to me. It happened. I started noticing it back in HS though, late 90's.


Quote: "Grunge killed the need to learn to play,"

granted they made entire songs from mere power chords, but they still had something many bands don't even bother doing anymore, solos! Does a lead guitarist even exist anymore? Just little technical things thrown in here and there added so much more to just basic power chords. A lot of newer bands also have real whiney singers, which I can't stand. (I'll let jane's addiction slide by cause they're not new!)


Quote: "What abot Jimmy Eat World?"

Didn't they do a song for the spiderman movie? I think the only part I liked was the part played by the guitarist from Anthrax.


Anyone remember Mother Love Bone? Was never a huge fan, but they inspired a lot of good things from the grunge era. Unfortunately, one of those great things was after the death of Andrew Wood, but Temple of the Dog was a great collaborated album. Think I'll go listen to that right now actually.


p.s. @Van, yea i still like PJ

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Congrats Mattman, you've earned... A cookie!



If you were expecting a real cookie, and you were expecting me to mail it to your house and all that... well, too bad hehe. But if you eat some chocolate and then you lick your monitor with your eyes closed you might "feel" like you're eating one


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ew.

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It's chocolate chip though! Yeesh, all of that effort to steal the pic, upload it to photobucket, then c&p the image to TGC, and you don't even like cookies


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I like cookies. I don't enjoy licking my monitor.

Why make sense when you could make brownies?
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Mmm... liquid crystal...


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I just had to share this:
http://1tix.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?stype=0&kwds=alice%20in%20chains

Earlier this summer, I posted tour dates for Alice in Chains. Most of the stops were in Europe, with only a few in the US nowhere near Ohio. Well, apparently the world tour was just to kickstart the American one, or so I'm guessing. Clicked a link on Amazon and got a whole list of new dates for AIC. I know there's no more Stanely, but I'm not missing this one.

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Who uses a world tour to kickstart a US tour?!? Yeesh, that's the "bad patriotism" lol


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Quote: "Have you, perhaps, reached the magic age-bracket 18-26? Because that's generally when people start to notice that all the 'new' stuff is rubbish. Happens to generation after generation."


Psshhh. I noticed that by the time I was 12.

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