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DarkBASIC Discussion / Real time game making.

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The title might sound a bit eh.. but i've been thinking for a few days about something TGC could do. You know in certain HTML programs when you type the code and click on the page it shows you if the code u entered "compiled" ok where leaving the code window opened? Well what if you could do that with DB? that way you don't have to run the program abd not see the code. you could see the Code and the result at the same time. you know what I mean? Thoughts, comments.

"Originally I was going to have a BS on it but you know how that would be. I can't walk around with the letters BS on me." More or less a qoute by Syndrome from Jack, Jack, attack
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Posted: 10th Aug 2006 08:09
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as in like constantly designing your program in the CLI?

If so, do - loops would be fun...
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something like that but u see the whole code it's like having a small window open where u see ur game. then the code. who knows if it's possible

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Hi there,

You can compile the code and check it while remaining in the code window. Just press F4. But you can't see the results, hmmmm

I almost got a display and the code at the same time by making the output windowed and using Code Keeper to write the source. Maybe using windowing, it can be done...

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Maybe, it sure would make programming easier to see ur results in real time, instead of having to compile.

"Originally I was going to have a BS on it but you know how that would be. I can't walk around with the letters BS on me." More or less a qoute by Syndrome from Jack, Jack, attack
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You could do that with DBC, but I wouldn't recommend it. To do it, you would have to write an interpreter program using DarkBASIC and then write your actual code in a text file. The interpreter program would read individual lines in a text file and execute the code in semi-real time, you would have to save the text file before the interpreter would do anything.
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There are professional game making tools like that. I've only had the opportunity to test one, namely RenderWare Studio. And in my honest opinion it's terrible.

Why?

Well, in the Studio's case because it's buggy. But the theory is superb. You play the game and can drag-and-drop enemies, functions, features and similar things into a 3D environment not unlike most map-making programs.

So it's an interesting notion. But in the case of RenderWare Studio, it's badly executed.
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Posted: 10th Aug 2006 13:11 Edited at: 10th Aug 2006 13:12
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The difference is that HTML is a markup language, so all it is is designing how something looks.

DBC/DBP are programming languages, there is no way you could get it to work because too much stuff is dependant on other things. Html is always rendered in the same way (theoretically) where DB is interactive, so it's just not possible

[Edit: Just read post above move, this is a different concept, Drag and drop vs real-time previewing]

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Hmmmmm, well A guy can dream.......I would just find it find it easier to do that but if it's not possible, it's not possible........Damn it......... oh well, back to trying to make a game that's the most awesome ever.........

"Originally I was going to have a BS on it but you know how that would be. I can't walk around with the letters BS on me." More or less a qoute by Syndrome from Jack, Jack, attack
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You could make an editor that positioned all of your objects in your 3D world. In that sense, it would be sort of like HTML. You could see your object positions in real time and manipulate them.

However, you couldn't execute your program like this. You would have to load the object positions into your own program and then have it do whatever.


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Posted: 12th Aug 2006 01:44 Edited at: 12th Aug 2006 01:46
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Quote: "DBC/DBP are programming languages, there is no way you could get it to work because too much stuff is dependant on other things. Html is always rendered in the same way (theoretically) where DB is interactive, so it's just not possible"


There are lots of languages that can be used in this sort of interactive way so it is certainly possible. Lisp , Smalltalk and the more recent Ruby are some examples.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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Actually, there are programs kinda like this already for DBC:

Matedit, WorldMaker, 3dMapEditor... The difference is they have a user interface that is based on mouse commands and GUI interaction mostly.

One could for instance, make a series of functions that were bundled commands, and create a sort of script language. Then, split the screen, and have one side be the inputs for the user script commands, and the other side the visual result. Instead of using the mouse to click and stretch an area to make a cube as in MagicWorld, the interface could be a script language. All the inputs are saved in memory (or as a file) in the form of the script language and when the edits are done, the script is broken back down to DBC code and saved as a file.

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