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CattleRustler
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Posted: 16th Aug 2006 22:06
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Posted: 16th Aug 2006 22:16 Edited at: 16th Aug 2006 22:16
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I thought the spelling was quite cute. Sort of psuedo French

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ooooooh.

hahaha.

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Posted: 16th Aug 2006 22:23
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I'm sure there's an Appolo one too.

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Posted: 16th Aug 2006 22:30
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You bet there is.

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So nice of you to point out my short commings Cattle...

Umm what's the mistake? Given that I made it in the first place and wall.

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Quote: "Sort of psuedo French"


You have to explain that...
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The "e" in everyone should be capitalized, since the first two words were capitalized, and those words are not proper nouns, therefore the phrase must be a heading title of sorts, therefore all words in the phrase with the exception of short prepositions or adverbs should be capitalized.

Oh and the frenchy spelling of course.

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Quote: "So nice of you to point out my short commings Cattle..."

The banners in live rotation don't say who created it, so don't take it personally.

I was noting the spelling "Developement" which is usually spelled "Development". If there is some alternate spelling of it somewhere "frenchy" or something then sorry for the post. Just seemed odd to me when I saw it.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 00:19 Edited at: 17th Aug 2006 00:19
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Acutally struck me as maybe English... they've got words like centre, I took it for granted that this was just another spelling.

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Yep, its used in Canada as well, just like colour, favourite, centre, all that stuff.


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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 03:59
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Yes, but we don't use developement here--- AFAIK nobody does


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Other than Kenjar, obviously
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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 11:35
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I can never spell that word correctly either - thank god for autocorrect

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 13:17
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centre, theatre, colour, i do not consider words. Its like canada, nobody really considers it a country, its just another piece of france.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 13:36
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Quote: "centre, theatre, colour, i do not consider words. Its like canada, nobody really considers it a country, its just another piece of france."


The thing is, you'd expect the English to know how to spell English words, so I'll take those words over whatever butchered spelling and pronounciation you guys come up with.


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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 14:28
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Quote: "centre, theatre, colour, i do not consider words. Its like canada, nobody really considers it a country, its just another piece of france."

Damn, that's not really necessary. Hopefully you're from Canada though, then it's alright


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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 15:04 Edited at: 17th Aug 2006 15:05
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Have to remember North Americans speak American-English, not actual English. There's something about them having to make their own language in their constitution (or so I hear - it's not something I've checked) so that's why there's several spelling crazinesses (as well as other reasons, I'm sure).

So, when talking about English - yes, "colour", "theatre" and "centre" are correct.
If you're talking American-English, then no - they'd be wrong.

(Note - I may have foolishly used "North American" when I should have used "US citizens" or something similiar. I for one don't want to offend Canadians - especially as they still celebrate Victoria's birthday - very Steampunk .)

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You have to remember that American English is an amalgam of tons of languages, mostly due to the huge number of immigrants that poured over here and spoke so many languages. Take a look through our dictionary some day and the number of french, spanish, latin, and german words, or words derived from those languages, is staggering.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 16:20
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Quote: "There's something about them having to make their own language in their constitution "

Umm... I really don't remember that part. I'll check it out, but I've spent a fair amount of time in the Constitution already


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Forgive me for being a US citizen, but is english not read from left to right? Is not the "R" sound "are", and is not the "e" sound "eee"? So then the word "centre" should be pronounced "sentry" instead of "center", because "center" has the phonetics in the proper place to make that word, whereas "centre" does not?

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Not really. Center sounds more like "Centeh", whereas Centre sounds more like Cent-ER.

Come back when you can pronounce Iraq, Moscow and Aluminium. Although I prefer the way Americans say Aluminium. It sounds all sci-fi.

Anyway, I read a while back that a load of words (about a 100) were changed to try and make it an easier language, but they sort of gave up after a while. I mean it doesn't exactly cover the entire language or anything

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 22:49
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Quote: "So then the word "centre" should be pronounced "sentry" instead of "center", because "center" has the phonetics in the proper place to make that word, whereas "centre" does not?"


Listen to a little kid learning to talk and you'll quickly realise very few words are spelt truly phoentically. This isn't a US/English thing, as I cannot think of many languages it doesn't apply to.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 23:07
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Actually Dazzag - it's better I tell you this before anyone else does - we spell Aluminium wrongly in the UK. The Americans named Aluminum, and we decided to change it. They were there first. :/

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Posted: 17th Aug 2006 23:49
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Quote: "So then the word "centre" should be pronounced "sentry" instead of "center","


Me thinks this spelling has a silent E Sirfire. I guess the best way to find out which is the "right" spelling is to ask the Japanese and find out how they spell in in their english classes, they're always right

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Quote: "I for one don't want to offend Canadians - especially as they still celebrate Victoria's birthday - very Steampunk"


Yes, we celebrate Victoria day, the name of our province's capital city

Quote: "This isn't a US/English thing, as I cannot think of many languages it doesn't apply to."


The *only* language I can think of that is almost, if not all phonetic is Japanese. That's why it's supposed to be easiest to pronounce (just not at their speed of course).


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I thought all you guys over the pond were taught George Bush's version of English now at school?!

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George Bush can spell??? * faints with the shock *

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hes basically a marble-mouthed idiot who can barely form a sentence. his handlers probably have him so drugged up its not even funny. we can only pray for an overdose, or good results in november. but I digress...

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I've never agreed with anyone more than I agree with CattleRustler right now.

Anyway, back on subject... I can't spell... Yep that about covers it. Still an extra e is a big improvement over my usual mutilations of the English language.

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Quote: "Actually Dazzag - it's better I tell you this before anyone else does - we spell Aluminium wrongly in the UK. The Americans named Aluminum, and we decided to change it. They were there first. :/"


Not quite, it was named by Humphry Davy, an English chemist and physicist. He originally called it aluminium, and a few years later aluminum. Most of his colleages prefered aluminium, though, so he finally settled on that spelling another few years later. In the USA both spelling variants were common until the early years of the 20th century when "aluminum" became more and more popular.
This is a very popular etymology example that lots of linguistic students might have heard of .


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Please, let's not start a political discussion. Those threads never turn out well.

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It wasn't a political discussion. It was two people agreeing.

In reguards to the wonderful changes that occure within the english language. I think Stephen Fry summed it up very nicely in an interview with Johnathan Ross. He expressed his deep annoyance with people who complained about street slang, and other variations of the english language people create. He pointed out that the English language isn't a fixed entity but a living, dynamic creature that grows and developes to fit the needs and desires of each new generation. And who can argue? For the language used in Shakesphere is barely even understandable to many. Being overly verbos with dialog, in which it is not only possible, but common, to forget the whole point of the speech, or what the question had been in the first place. Luckly however it changes over decades rather than days, but never the less it's almost certainly deeply appreshiated by the dictionary companies, as they can continue to print their new additions.

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Gosh, well a quick check online not only confirms what empty wrote (thanks empty - you learn something new every day) but establishes the origins of words like "color" and "theater" and why they are spelled the way they are in America.

Enter, one Noah Webster, who thought extraneous letters were stupid, (and that a unique language would help unify the states into a nation) and wrote books for American spelling.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/topicalwords/tw-sul1.htm

If it were up to him though, there would have been the following changes too:

tuf (for tough)
groop (for group)
tung (for tongue)

Funny how things like that happen.

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Well, phoneticly speaking, they are more accurate.

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Hahaha--- I like this one




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For gods sake Jeku, this thread isn't about banners anymore! Pay attention to the topic on hand!


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Hahaha---- well---- *cough*.... excuse me

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