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Matt Rock
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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 05:03
Do NOT ruin this for me! All I want to know is, did this show already air in the UK? Are you guys into the second season yet, or is there not going to be one? We're only on the fourth episode in the US (fifth this monday) so please refrain from talking about anything beyond that Also, what do you all think of this show? BBC America is fast becoming my favorite TV network, rivaled only by HBO hehe.


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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 05:59 Edited at: 19th Aug 2006 06:00
Is this show like the new Lost?
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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 06:19
the main character dies at the end. gunshot to the knee, busted his kneecap through his skin and penetrated through his eye into his brain, parylizing him and leaving him to wait while his brain bled into his lungs causing him to drown in his own blood.

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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 11:54 Edited at: 19th Aug 2006 12:00
lol you live in the States so I already know that you can't know unless a Brit told you, and even then I don't think they're at the end of the season yet

It's nothing like Lost. This cop, Sam Tyler, is driving along in 2006, and the next thing he knows, he's in 1973... no explanation, and the best thing you can guess is that he's a coma victim and it's all just a very realistic nightmare. The show is brilliant, very well written and John Simm is a great actor. At first it sounded a bit cheesy, but after watching it and realizing it wasn't all a bunch of sequentially corny 70's jokes, and that it was actually well-written and stuff, I got into it, and now I'm hooked. Great show, if you get the BBC where you live you should give it a go. This sunday they're airing the first four episodes.

Edit: Part of the reason why I'm falling in love with this show is that it reminds me of the show "John Doe," which was canceled by faux... err... "Fox"... a few years ago (even though it had the strongest first-season ratings of any drama they'd ever aired... morons). In that show, John Doe is a man who knows EVERYTHING (I mean literally everything ever documented in history, for instance, he can recite DOS in binary and tell you to the millimeter the tallest mountain in the world). But he doesn't know who he is or where he came from, and he can only see in black and white, and it all happens as a result of his amnesia. The lead character of that show, Dominic Purcell, is in some new show called "Prisonbreak," also on Fox (I think)... I pretty much stopped watching fox when they canceled that though.


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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 13:50 Edited at: 19th Aug 2006 13:50
I believe there may be another series, but I'm not sure. It wasn't my cup of tea. Apparently the twist at the end is the martians are actually humans and the humans are cybornetic potato waffles with arms made out of chewing gum. Yeah, we've got our sheet together when we make crazy ass TV yo!

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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 14:14
nah in england it hasent shown series 2 of life on mars

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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 15:09
I havent even heard of life on mars and Iam the one who watches all the documentary crap.
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Posted: 19th Aug 2006 21:23 Edited at: 19th Aug 2006 21:24
I will wait for it on DVD and rent it. Then I can see all the episodes without waiting.

Done that with Oz, 24, Six Feet Under, and now Lost.

Oz... grumble.... that show fell apart after Season 2.


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Connor Higgins
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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 00:51
Higgins its not a documentery its a like drama series on bb1 or sumthing like that but it was on ages ago....

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Posted: 20th Aug 2006 00:55 Edited at: 20th Aug 2006 00:56
The 1st series finished ages ago. Was fantastic for about the first 75% of the series. Growing up in Britain in the 70's totally helped too Last 25% wasn't as fun, but still good. His boss who constantly punches him in the stomach was on Top Gear the other day. Totally different. A fair bit posh, and a little bit of a luvvie. Honest to god.

Don't forget it's a british program, so even though it was a bit longer than our standard 6 episodes I think it was about 13 episodes long.

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 09:12
Quote: "Iam the one who watches all the documentary crap. "

I like documentaries too, you're not alone hehe

Quote: "Oz... grumble.... that show fell apart after Season 2. "

I'll try to do this without spoilers: The ending of Oz was dissapointing to say the least. You're right, it stopped being a great show after Season 2, and watching it felt like work, just to get to the end. After "that one guy's brother" was executed it seemed like the show went down hill even further. The satanic stuff on death row was interesting, but for the most part I stopped liking the show around the same time you did.
Six Feet Under on the other hand gave a lot of closure in the end... I like that they tell you where everyone ends up.

I really hope they air the second season soon. Tomorrow we're seeing the fifth episode on the BBC... it's good to know there's 13 episodes, six wouldn't capture the season I think. The characters are developed so well, especially Sam and the Gov. The gov was on Sharpe's Mission, too, but I didn't see it (not my kind of show). I've only ever seen John Simm (Sam Tyler) on State of Play... I'd love to see him in more stuff!


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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 09:51
Think its only 6 or 7 episodes...

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 10:12
Just checked; it's 8. Was a while ago I watched it though.

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 10:15
@Matt Rock - Agreed. The first season of Oz was hardcore. It made me uncomfortable watching it, and how gritty and realistic it is (or so I've heard). And how they treated Beacher--- you really felt bad for the guy, and wonder how people survive.

But then it got too Hollywood and soap-opera. One gang kills someone from another gang, then there's a retaliation, ad nauseum. And nobody new ever lasts--- it's always the same original characters that drag it out all 5 seasons. Truthfully I didn't even watch the last 2 or 3 episodes--- sooooo boring.


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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 15:34
You mean the program is old, like 10 years?
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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 19:36
Quote: "You mean the program is old, like 10 years"
Never said old, just said it was on ages ago. Think it was sometime this spring (feb?).

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 19:40
yeh it was on about feb

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 19:41
And a boring program it was too.

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Posted: 21st Aug 2006 19:47
Hmmm. But you have been supplying "NO" since 1974.... or did you grow up a Posh kid and have no references to the program?.... You have to love it when his boss punches him one the first time

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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 00:53
@ Jeku: You didn't miss much in the last few episodes, and seriously, you'd probably be able to guess what happens in them. But I won't tell you in the event that you might get stranded on a desert island with a battery powered DVD player and the last season of Oz... other than that there isn't much of a reason to watch it lol. The first season made you feel glad to not be incarcerated... I honestly think watching that first season is the greatest crime deterrant there can be, lol. After Beacher gets Shillinger back (the FIRST time) the show just sort of drooped into boredom. But a few of those characters I'd like to see again in something else, like Beacher, Ryan O'Reiley, and a few others. I know the guy that plays Chris Keller is on some cop show now, and Miguel Alvirez was on Band of Brothers, but the others are mia. The guy who plays Chucky Pancamo is like a coach or a waterboy or something for Arturro Gatti, the boxer.

@ Philbert: you hate Life on Mars? I love it, although I haven't seen it through to the end yet (later today, another episode finally). But what I've seen so far is fantastic, and imo, it's one of the best shows on TV (again, imo).

I wish we had a proper BBC station here so we could see these shows when they first air as opposed to having to wait for ages to see them. And I wish they didn't show "Footballer's Wives" so much... every other commercial on BBC America is for Footballer's Wives, Footballer's Wives: Overtime, or the show's ugly cousin, Mile High. If I wanted to watch soft pron I'd turn on Cinemax


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 01:32
@Matt -- Yeah it'd be nice to see some of those actors again. Did you know that the woman who was executed on death row (forgot her name) is married in real life to the guy who runs Oz? (the white guy ). I thought she was pretty cute. The other day What About Bob was on TV and Richard Dreyfuss' daughter is the same actress.... couldn't believe it!


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 01:42
The mother who drowned her kids was married irl to Tim McManus? That's crazy! I think my girlfriend has that movie on DVD, I should watch it again, I thought she was a pretty good actress.


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 01:58
And since we're on the topic of enjoyable shows, you said you like Six Feet Under, and I agree. In fact I'd be so bold to say it's one of the top 3 television shows in history. The characters are so REAL it's uncanny. Everyone was great. One of the best actresses on the show, Brenda's mother, was just PERFECT for her role. I read that Peter Krause, who played Nate, originally auditioned for the role of David. To me that would not have worked, BUT Peter is such a tremendous actor he probably could have pulled it off.

The surprise twist near the end of the 5th season really bothered me. Just as I was really in bliss with the guy's realisticness, *boom* he's gone. Such a great show, I almost want to rewatch the 5 seasons again


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 06:33
That was really sad. The Billy & Brenda stuff had me grossed out though. I really do think that show was brilliant. The way the dead speak from beyond the grave to help them sort out their personal problems, and the characters arcs were genius too. I watched that show since it came out and I was sad to see it end, I felt like there was so much more they could have done after *he* left, but at least they gave us the "highlight reel" of events to come. I wanted to know more about where Claire ended up, how things worked out for her when she *did that thing*... wow, it's hard to not dish out spoilers lol.


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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 06:49
Yah I know eh Funny Claire ended up with *that guy*--- but it's nice to see that opposites really do attract Yah, I was totally grossed out during *that scene* with Billy & Brenda--- almost vomited. Good thing it



But there was a hint that



Nast.


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Yeah, definitely disturbing. Brenda is hot (in a strange, big nose sort of way), but not THAT hot lol. Do you remember the name of the children's book that Billy and Brenda read together? Nate and something? I wonder if it's real if so we should stop it from corrupting more kids lol.


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Not sure-- I doubt it's a real book though. The only episode in all 5 seasons that I missed was the last one of Season 1, so at the beginning of Season 2 I was a little confused. Oh well, things were cleared up pretty fast.


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Quote: "But you have been supplying "NO" since 1974.... or did you grow up a Posh kid and have no references to the program?...."

There were plenty of identifiable objects - bent coppers and dodgy cars, for example. It was just a boring program, and of no real interest.

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Posh then.

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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 20:01
What do posh people like? Fish eggs?
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 00:19
Yes. And cucumber sandwiches without the crusts.

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And you would know then ?

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No. We fire caravans and sheep (only the bad looking ones mind) at people like you.

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Oh yeah, and life on mars was made by BBC Wales. Enough of the English (spit) comments

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 00:34 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 00:34
Its amazing you could afford a sheep, let alone a caravan...
Mind you, we all know what the Welsh like doing with sheep.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 00:41 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 00:42
Quote: "Its amazing you could afford a sheep"
They come naturally if you know how to charm them...

Quote: "Mind you, we all know what the Welsh like doing with sheep"
They like it too I tell you. Plus we have perfect feet for Wellies. Genetics don't you know. Tis great when your mum, aunt, and sister add up to less than 3 people for a few generations.

Quote: "let alone a caravan"
They grow wild in the trees where I come from.

You don't happen to have a double barrel name and prefer croquet over that vulgar football game?

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Quote: "You don't happen to have a double barrel name and prefer croquet over that vulgar football game?"

No, and I presume you haven't married a sheep or too or spent far too long in a slate mine.

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Ive been in a copper mine once, when I was 5. It has max work miners, so I dought they where making much money. It was just outside beddgelert.
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I was having a discussion about the last episode of Quantum Leap, on IMDB - and a bit where one of Sam's words is dubbed by the word 'Slate' for some reason... We've been trying to find out what was being dubbed over.

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probably a naughty word that starts with the same letter. If there's a video clip of it somewhere I can tell you what he actually said, 8 times out of 10... I'm good at that sort of thing for some reason Not lip-reading-for-the-deaf good mind you, but decent enough to know which swear words were said when they're airing Pulp Fiction on network television.


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