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Bahamut
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Posted: 22nd Aug 2006 23:46
Quote: "Nah, I meant every word. I'm a guy who listens to songs that sound good, rather than do I like the band or not (unless of course there's some extreme reason to hate the band, like inanimate object fornication)."


I have a friend that likes a band called prostitute disfigurement. Seriously, gore metal does not represent metal as a whole. Honest. If you're only experience is with bands like Gorelord and Cannibal Corpse then no wonder you don't like it. Song names become funny though.

Stuff like American Idol (pop idol or the x factor in England) destroys what little talent the singers actually have. The only thing it's good for is watching simon whatshisface telling some poor girl she looks like vicky pollard

The people who are actually good, are unfortunately blinded by an uncontrollable need for fame so are perfectly happy to do 6 months of covers and have an image thrust onto them.

People and bands with talent should get a record deal the hard way. Then they're at least ready to fend for themselves against manipulation and stuff. It even happened to slipknot (another misrepresentation of metal-awful, awful band), they got their solo's erased by the producer. The solo's didn't make the music any better, but it's the principle that annoys me.

IceBound Melodic rock/metal band with loads of lead guitar, clean female vocals, and more guitars! What more could you want?
Saikoro
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 00:03
Quote: "another misrepresentation of metal-awful, awful band"

Erm... how? O.o They've got more orchestration than most bands from any genre.


Bahamut
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 00:18
Admittedly I've only heard a few songs (but if I didn't like them, why would I bother hearing more?)

The ones I heard are pulse of the maggots, left behind and duality. The problems I found were that the vocals are poor. Lyrics are just plain stupid (I push my fingers into my eyes to stop the ache or something...)

I found the guitars to be, whilst original, very clashy. I found that the odd experimental tuning didn't always work. Melody on the whole was missing. The band has unecessary members. Some guy just stands there and hits a barrel every so often. Why on earth is he there!?

Compared to what I would call "proper metal" (e.g. Iron Maiden, pre-soundtrack In Flames, Dragonforce) they just seem uncreative to me. Almost like metal for n00bs. I put them in the same group as linken park or pappa roach.

When the solo's were added, they were very, very good, showing that the musicians (that do something vaguely meaningful) are very talented. The drummer is very good. It's more the song writing that I don't like. I suppose their nu-metally attitude doesn't help either.


I know it's all reletive but I just can't stand them, and alot of people share the same opinion. The fact that they stand at the front of mainstream metal means that the put alot of people off an entire genre that they may otherwise like.

IceBound Melodic rock/metal band with loads of lead guitar, clean female vocals, and more guitars! What more could you want?
BearCDPOLD
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 02:20
Quote: "what fourteen year olds think Clay Aiken's dreamy? Yourself? I mean, I haven't read anywhere where that's what people think of him."

Set foot inside a junior high school recently? Even a high school. I have go to the junior high to pick up my little brother and have heard snippets of conversation about American Idol and even when I was in junior high was when the first season was out and Clay Aiken's image was very appealing to many junior high girls.

Speaking of Elvis Costello, his wife is hot. Jazz pianist==sexy;

Personally, I think Duality's alright. Other stuff I've heard from Slipknot has been subpar though. Dragonforce doesn't have a whole lot of creative thought going into their songwriting, but their music sounds mostly happy and is really fast and cool. I sound like a retarded football jock when I say that, but hey--it's appealing to me.

That really is a crime that the producers would nix solos. That's half the fun of playing in a band.

I see five tiers of music in ascending order of "worthiness of my analytical attention".

1. Trash (people don't write their own songs or let the producers do everything for them)
2. People with potential who need to work on songwriting skills.
3. Good music. Like corporate rock (see: Boston album). Not trying to get funky
4. Good music with an unique edge. Maybe the musicians aren't as talented or they're just starting to experiment, or want to experiment but also would like to stay in a genre because either they enjoy working in the genre or want to maintain income. Slightly Stoopid would fit in here.
5. Revolutionary. Think Pink Floyd, the Beatles. Beatles are old hat now but in their time they were pushing things. What more needs to be said about Pink Floyd? He wrote a french opera for goodness' sake.

I regularly listen to 3-5s, keep 2s saved on my computer, and put 1s in my microwave.


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Xenocythe
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 02:43
Omg, I started a hot topic musically political ban threatened thread



JUST COMMENT ON THE VIDEO!!!!!





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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 08:35
Human communication is a beautifully organic thing, my friend. I thought the video was pretty awesome. I saw the video of him going on the Tonight Show and it was pretty cool as well.


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 09:48 Edited at: 23rd Aug 2006 09:49
Elvis Costello writes a lot of pop songs. I know he did one for Britney Spears, but I'm not sure what else he's done. He was on an interview last summer complaining about the state of the industry and how the producers do all they can to cover up the traces that someone else wrote the song for the pop star, because they don't want to give the "illusion" that these people kids idolize are as talentless as doorknobs when it comes to writing music. Doesn't make sense to me... if I were in a band and someone as prestigous as Elvis Costello wrote a song for me, I'd wear that like a badge on my shoulder. None of these people will be remembered ten years from now, except to fuel the butt-end of jokes (Milli Vanilli, MC Hammer, Spice Girls, Vanilla Ice anyone?). None of these pop stars will release a song as internationally well-known as, say, "Radio Radio" or "Pump it Up," and they should be proud of the fact that Elvis Costello could be purchased to realize such ends

It doesn't matter if Clay Aiken is gay, straight, or asexual... little girls think he's sexy, probably because he's pseudo feminine, nerdy, and in their opinions can sing well. Same thing with the members of Backstreet Boys, NSync, and all of those other boy bands. Of course Lance Bass is gay, and if Justin Timberlake isn't lying about his sexuality I'll eat my left foot (and that's my nice foot!). But young girls don't think about that. They don't typically "think," IE., do things of their own fruition or free will. They're automatons, and people like that Simon guy capitalize on that. Most companies do as well... it's just business. Anyone remember how cool those green alligator shirts were in the early 80's? We didn't think they were cool because they looked good, we thought they were cool because the media told us they were cool. Anyway, point is, if Kelly Clarkson never went on American Idol and sent a demo to any record company in the world, they would have shot her down because she doesn't push any boundaries or anything, and that's why I can't stand her, or American Idol for that matter (besides the issues of personal taste).

@ Drew: Seriously, I would love to ignore you, but when you attack things I say out of the blue with flamey silliness, you should expect to get both barrels in return.


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Drew G
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 18:21
[b]WANT A REALLY STUPID AND IMMATURE LAUGH AT MUSIC??!?!?![/B]

I'm going to be making a band, that involves people who sing both country music and rap... I was thinking along the lines that the name could be Crap, if you do put both words together. I don't know, you tell me...
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 18:58
Are you talking about Matt's "Rodeohead" idea?
Benjamin
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 19:07
Actually if you put those words together it would be "Countryrap".

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Drew G
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 19:09
@ Ben
Yeah, I was expecting an answer like that. I meant like if you combine two words but take some letters off and stuff.

@ Megaton
No, I wasn't refering to Matt's radiohead.
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 19:27
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No, I wasn't refering to Matt's radiohead."


I know you weren't referring to Radiohead. That's why I asked if you were referring to Rodeohead.
Drew G
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 19:51
@ Megaton
No, no, I would never ever ever, refer to anything Matt has posted. So there's your answer again, no I was not refering to Rodeohead. I haven't heard of Rodeohead and so I thought you had meant to spell Radiohead. My mistake.
Xenocythe
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 20:37
Alright, since you guys have the inability to stick to a topic...

J/k


But really, stick to the 'METAL' now days, like 'Panic at the disco', and all that crap.


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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 01:25
And dont get me started on how crappy jazz and classical music are.


Drew G
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 01:50
And don't even get my started on how crappy CR's voice is.. ERM... I mean, I agree with you Saikoro, but to a degree. Some parts of classical music are crappy. But that is in our humble opinion.
Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 04:55
Quote: "And don't even get my started on how crappy CR's voice is.. ERM... I mean, I agree with you Saikoro, but to a degree. Some parts of classical music are crappy. But that is in our humble opinion. "


Drew I am betting saikoro was kidding. is CR Cattlerustler? the only thing that seems to be crappy around here is the stuff that pours out of your virtual mouth.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:09
Quote: "Drew I am betting saikoro was kidding. is CR Cattlerustler? the only thing that seems to be crappy around here is the stuff that pours out of your virtual mouth."

Yes I was joking, but Drew likes to be stupid.


Drew G
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:15
Forget you jerk.
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:30
Quote: "Forget you jerk."


What did the hand say to the face?

Slap!
Drew G
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:42
Actually it was, What did the five fingers say to the face, not hand.
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:44
"Actually it was" what?
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:45
he means he got Slapped.

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:47
Lawl I see. Owned.
Drew G
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:48
No, the joke goes "What did the five fingers say to the face" It's not "what did the hand say to the face."
Steve J
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:50
Thats not what "Actually it was" means. You see, a joke can have different versions. There is no right joke. But since you probably got slapped, that is what actually happened.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 05:50 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 05:53
I'm pretty sure you don't have a patent on that.

As Steve said, when jokes get passed on by friends to friends they change abit, though it's still the same joke. Stop being so naive about everything. Trying to catch me on that one in an attempt to sound competent? Thumbs dowwwwwn.
Drew G
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 07:07
Sorry sir, I cannot see your "down thumbs"....

(No I am not slapped.)
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 14:48
i'm slapped, slapped silly hahahahahahahaha.



Lets see, we went from a music video(i think, to a debate on todays music, to a debate on a joke. Wow. Pretty cool guys. Have a pear, except for drew who gets a jaguar (and i'm a ninja)
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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 06:56
I love classical music, but it all depends on what is going on as to the type of music I find best. If I am having a keg party I think Bach is a little out of place, if I want music to be present but not prominent classical is great

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 08:38 Edited at: 25th Aug 2006 08:39
Quote: "Are you talking about Matt's "Rodeohead" idea?"

STILL the greatest idea in the history of ever. You KNOW you want to play slide guitar and banjo for Rodeohead Matty You still remember it after all this time, so that tells me the idea stuck in your head

Quote: "You see, a joke can have different versions. There is no right joke"


Very true. Like "why did the chicken cross the road? So he wasn't standing next to Drew, because he'd rather take his chances wobbling around in traffic than listen to Drew saying how he wasn't really a chicken and that he was stupid for thinking he was one."

I thought Drew was leaving? If I made a thread where I proclaimed to everyone that I was running away from TGC forever, guess what? I wouldn't keep posting every day and insulting everyone I could get my hands on. And as I recall, no one jumped out into his path trying to make him stay. But I dunno, maybe I missed something?


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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 08:39
Well, when kids don't get any attention in real life, then head towards forums to satisfy those needs...this is one of those cases.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 08:40
Makes sense. Good call Meg


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Steve J
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 08:40
And attention he has.

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Drew G
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 18:27
Quote: "I thought Drew was leaving?"

Sorry to disappoint you.

Quote: "Well, when kids don't get any attention in real life, then head towards forums to satisfy those needs...this is one of those cases."

We don't want to hear your life story.
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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 18:34
Drew, if your going to trash talk, leave my threads. That goes for everyone else who is alse saying off-topic crap.


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Lol... yeah that stuff is bangin


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Drew G
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No.
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Alright Drew-- banned for 6 months for being a troll, a nuisance, and for hijacking threads into flamewars.


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Posted: 25th Aug 2006 22:16
Looked this up in the dictionary.

Jeku, Je'Koo, n. A savior of forums; He who bans for the good of others.

Anyone here like Folk Music at all?

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Posted: 26th Aug 2006 01:08 Edited at: 26th Aug 2006 01:23
Quote: "Anyone here like Folk Music at all?"

Argh theres this one celtic folk pop band that I love, but everytime I hear them I don't catch their name... they have the mandolin played like a guitar and argh i cant remember for the life of me.

EDIT: Aha! Nickel Creek is their name! Really worth a checkout.

EDIT2: http://www.myspace.com/nickelcreek is their myspace, so you can hear them there =)


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I like Nickel creek I have This Side and their first album which seems to have no title so I guess it's Nickle Creek.

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Posted: 26th Aug 2006 14:31
I liked this group when I was way younger, in the sixth or maybe the seventh grade, an Irish rock/ rap/ folk-ish group called Black 47 that my brother had seen performing live at some bar in NYC at the time. My friend Amber, who is originally from Manchester England, stole the cassette (those are the things we used before IPods or CD's) and destroyed it, and when I went to yell at her, she told me they were Northern Irish, and that was bad for some reason. I didn't understand the whole IRA thing, I was too young, and I barely remember the songs, but to me they didn't seem like they were bashing England or supporting the IRA or anything... but boy-oh-boy did she take it personal! Anyway, they had a folk-ish sound to them, and while today I probably wouldn't like it, at that time I was into it. That's as close to folk music as I've ever gotten.


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Posted: 26th Aug 2006 16:20
Folk music is a sometimes misunderstood vein, others included would be people like James or Livinston Taylor and Bob Dylan, not always some guy with an instrument you've never heard of. A large portion of your singer/songwriters fall into this niche.

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Posted: 27th Aug 2006 10:26 Edited at: 27th Aug 2006 10:26
While I was in Rochester we heard this high school group who played Irish folk music, they were called Celtic Music Society, or were related to an organization called that or something. It was pretty cool. We have some Bob Dylan and James Taylor CDs. They don't get a whole lot of listening time, but it's good stuff. How about Neil Diamond?


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