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Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 21:24
Does anyone know where I could get a 2D animation program that can convert your animation into .avi format?

Cocacola and Pepsi aren't that differnt. Deal with it.
Xenocythe
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 21:44
Flash. If you have the hundreds, buy it.


Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 21:47
Well I don't have the hundreds, is there anything cheaper?

Cocacola and Pepsi aren't that differnt. Deal with it.
Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 23rd Aug 2006 23:03
How come there are cheap and free 3D model/animation software, but every 2D animater is over $100, It should be the other way around.

Cocacola and Pepsi aren't that differnt. Deal with it.
Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:11
Graphics Gale can export AVI and its free.

http://www.cafepress.com/blackarrowgames
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Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:15
But can you animate with it?

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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:28
yes it has frames for animation, and each frame can have multiple layers.

http://www.cafepress.com/blackarrowgames
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Oraculaca
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:28
Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:32
Cool, Where can I download it?

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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 20:36 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 20:36
well you could just google graphics gale but if that is too much work its at humanbalance.net

I use it for everything since I can not drop the cash for photoshop.

http://www.cafepress.com/blackarrowgames
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Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:04
I'ts great and exactly what I was looking for, there's only one problem, everything is in Japanese

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:18
ha ha

Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:22 Edited at: 14th Dec 2006 20:29
Is there an instruction book for the program?

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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:22 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 22:24
there is an english version of the site and the software itself is in english

EDIT: Their were some tutorials I found with a search one time but the links have long since left my browser. With a little poking around the software is very easy to use and self explanatory

http://www.cafepress.com/blackarrowgames
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Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:42
I figured out how to animate, but the speed of the animation is to fast. How do I fix that?

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:44
I don't see a point in bothering getting anything other then Flash.

Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:46
Well I don't have the money to spend right now.

Cocacola and Pepsi aren't that differnt. Deal with it.
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:46 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 22:47
Excellent products are generally not free.

Depends on how serious the work you want to do is. If it's something like a personal animated avatar or something then you could probably go with a free converter. If you're actually planning on starting an animation project of some sort then better save up.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:49
probably along the lines of the avatar for now, but I'm planning on soon purchasing Flash(When I have the money)

Cocacola and Pepsi aren't that differnt. Deal with it.
Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 22:50 Edited at: 24th Aug 2006 22:52
if you right click on the preview window you can change the animation speed, you can also duplicate frames such as if you are running at 32 frames a second and you dont need that kind of speed you could double, triple, or even quadruple the frames as in .

Frame 1 frame 1 frame 1 frame 1 frame 2 frame 2 frame 2 frame 2 etc.

I also used the trial version of PAP before and that was pretty darn good, but best if you have a tablet.

http://www.cafepress.com/blackarrowgames
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Gamedesign er20
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Posted: 24th Aug 2006 23:21
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Posted: 28th Aug 2006 13:40
I actually wouldnt embark on a large scale character animation process in flash alone.
You need to look at this from a time persective.
Animation takes a very long time so think smart and save time.

there was a bones based flash animation package called MOHO by lostmarble.com
alas they went the way of the DODO.
2d bone based vector animation. very cool!
google has ghost images of what it looked like.
http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=moho&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wi

If you can find a 3d package that you like and can render swf files or bitmaps.
you will eliminate a million different frames you will have to draw.
seriously.

creating your model in 3d will allow you to place and rotate while animating, to produce a series of cells for each fram eof each animation at each angle with each item etc....


imagine a character rotating 9 positions
now imagine him falling down in 9 positions
now imagine him attacking in 9 positions
now spells
now new armour

we already have 45 cells in 2d to render.
with a 3d object you just rotate the already created model saving whale meters of time.

dab
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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 00:09
Quote: "alas they went the way of the DODO."

Does that mean they went away? Because I'm downloading a trial now. Though, if that means they stopped working on it oh...
indi
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Posted: 29th Aug 2006 06:26
I thought it was gone last night when the page wouldnt load from multiple attempts. good to see its still around.

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Posted: 30th Aug 2006 01:04
I got a free version of Toon Boom Studio (Express) on a magazine cover disk a while ago. Its used by professional animators at Warner Bros, Universal Studios, Disney etc. for lots of commercial cartoons such as Simpsons, King of the Hill, Family Guy, Power Puff Girls and loads of stuff on the Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. Very very good indeed and uses the Flash file format.
http://www.toonboom.com/

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