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Toby Quan
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To celebrate Star Trek's 40th Anniversary, CBS is updating the Original Star Trek series from the 1960's.

When you see the Enterprise flying through space, it's no longer a toy model on a string, but rather a rendered 3D computer model
The planets have been computer generated now, and they look beautiful!
The music has been re-recorded. It's the same song, with the same types of instruments, but it is just a new recording. It sounds great!
When the Enterprise shoots its phasers, you can now see the light bouncing off of the ship as the blast is launched. It's very modern.

All of the acting, internal sets and dialog is unchanged. They've just spruced up the show a bit.

I saw the first episode last Saturday night on regular TV (not Cable). I'm hooked! It was very well done. In my opinion, the enhancements added extra beauty to the original series.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 19th Sep 2006 16:17
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I dunno - part of the appeal of the origional series is that everything was authentic - it wasn't faked or done by a computer. Someone, somewhere put a LOT of effort into making those effects with something less powerfull than a mobile phone! I tend to find it dissapointing when things like this are done, although this is just a spruce up, not a full remake. Could be good.

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Dazzag
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Yeah, heard about this a while back. Can't really see how it's going to be any good going from amazing space effects to ropey cardboard rocks on pink planets though Bit like in the special edition versions of Star Wars where you get really cool CGI monster, then go into the bar and everything is obviously old rubbery efforts.

I heard they were going to release the episodes in any old order. Is this true?

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Van B
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Posted: 19th Sep 2006 17:11 Edited at: 19th Sep 2006 17:12
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I really disliked the Star Wars tart-ups - really I didn't see the need for these CG additions, especially when it's as badly done as it was. Han meeting Jabba in 'new hope' for instance, if it's as awkward and ugly as that, then Mr.Lucus DO NOT BOTHER!. If it doesn't fit the look, then get rid - I'm thinking new planets will just look like planets - nothing to indicate a period in time so it doesn't matter how spectacular they look, they can look as spectacular as they like. Put anything non-60's-chic beside Ahura though and it instantly looks terrible .

Sounds basicaly like little more than a remastering though, which is a good thing - if they wanted to do anything more, then they should re-cast and re-film the original series in a more modern setting - sacrilage no less in some fans eyes.

The thing with this sort of remake is that it's far easier to add stuff to a set era than take stuff from a set era. Like Weetus video set in Al's diner from Happy Days - it looks authentic, you could be excused for assuming that was an actual episode. Now look at these adverts starring the Happy Days gang in a modern setting (car ad) - makes me want to harm the creators they're so clunky and wrong.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2006 17:31
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Quote: "Han meeting Jabba in 'new hope' for instance, if it's as awkward and ugly as that, then Mr.Lucus DO NOT BOTHER!. "


That was a major cock-up from the start, though. How the hell are they supposed to do a good job of replacing a human-like figure with an oversized slug! Jabba just didn't belong in the environment they put him in.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2006 17:59
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Yeah, that taste is back in my mouth thanks!

I can just hear the exec's in the preview... ''Wow, did you see how Han stepped on Jabba's tail - that was AWESOME''

We all took a vow to only watch the new SW remasters in the cinema, while as drunk as we could manage. It did take the edge off a little, being plastered while watching that new CG crud.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2006 18:21
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Most of it was good though. Like the light sabres, top notch.

With Star Trek it will probably be good. I just hope that they do a good job. Ship explosions were top notch in Star Trek TNG because they used gasoline bombs and a high speed camera, but I just saw one in Star Trek Voyager and it was uber lame because it was CG.


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Yeah, I did like the explosions better in TNG then Voyager, though as a whole I like Voyager better. And I agree that the CG adding Jabba in was inexcusable. The only good thing about that was how Han called him a beautiful man... ah well, they didn't ask us.

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He gained a few pounds in the (is it 6?) few years between episode 4 and 6.

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Quote: "He gained a few pounds in the (is it 6?) few years between episode 4 and 6.
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... Not only did he gain weight he changed color alot too, though maybe their excuse is he lost his color from becoming an unhealthy fat lard...

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Posted: 20th Sep 2006 01:06 Edited at: 20th Sep 2006 01:11
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actually i think he gained color from that CG disgrace to episode 6... he's more brown in episode 6, in that picture he's blueish green..

you know the two things that make me hate lucas almost as much as i like him for making star wars?

1) HAN SHOT FIRST, HE'S NOT A SISSY

2) Replacing the darth vader ghost at the end of episode 6 with the 2 & 3 actor for anakin... WHY? with the other two people you use the old body of when they died, but you have to mess it up so that when darth vader dies he somehow uses a young body..?!?

2 & 1/2) I liked the old ewok song alot

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their doing it for the sake of being able to. might watch just for the hoot factor but am expecting tha same disapointment i felt with special edition star wars. what're they gonna do with space seed, have kirk try and conquer his own while khan try's to stop him.

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Quote: "Replacing the darth vader ghost at the end of episode 6 with the 2 & 3 actor for anakin"
I read somewhere that they managed to scramble the explanation that your force ghost shows you as you were when you were using the force for good. Although chucking the old bloke down the hole a few minutes earlier doesn't class as evil.... would be most annoyed if I was the original actor.

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Quote: "would be most annoyed if I was the original actor. "


Yah, that would suck if your only claim to fame was being the guy who played Anakin's ghost in that scene. And then having it replaced with the new actor's ugly mug. Hehehe.


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Quote: "Yah, that would suck if your only claim to fame was being the guy who played Anakin's ghost in that scene. And then having it replaced with the new actor's ugly mug. Hehehe.
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When you look at it that way.... Thats horrible... Imagine that you were in Star Wars, if only a brief time, only to be removed later

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Positive side is that he will be one of the main things pointed out about the new un-altered releases. Hurrah. Out of interest, was it the same bloke who they show when they take his helmet off?

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It's ok, he made his millions being the green cross code man too, so he's fine!.

I think the attitude was very different, maybe actors were a little bit normal by todays standards - but the characters were more important than the stars. Nobody would walk upto Harrison and actually call him Harrison - nobody even really knew actors names back then - they would have called him Han, and asked where his massive hamster had gotten to today.

Said this before, but I met the green cross code man when I was a kid - they didn't even bring up Darth, he was more concearned with teaching road safety, what a guy.

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Quote: "Positive side is that he will be one of the main things pointed out about the new un-altered releases."


Wait, there will be a new set of originals? Woot!

So much for the 1994? release slogan "One Last Time"

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Posted: 21st Sep 2006 17:30 Edited at: 21st Sep 2006 17:30
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Quote: "It's ok, he made his millions being the green cross code man too, so he's fine!."
I thought it wasn't him though that showed his face.

Quote: "Wait, there will be a new set of originals? Woot!"
Yeah, the ones that just came out. Basically you get 2 DVDs in each one. One DVD is the original theatrical release and the other is the suped up special edition. Wait 6 months then get them all on HD disks. 3 versions of each film perhaps? Or 4 maybe? (2 SD versions and 2 HD versions).

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If they are going to digitally re-master the original Star Trek, please can they make very sure that they digitally re-master Shatner's appalling acting?

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That's part of the appeal


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When you say appeal, I am assuming you mean in the legal "we need to get this overturned" sense.

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The original Enterprise wasn't exactly a "toy". I used to see it hanging in the Smithsonian. If I recall right it was maybe 8 feet long. I used to frequent the Paramount lot when they were making the movies years later as part of my job then. Let me tell you the model makers were extremely well paid.
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Quote: "I heard they were going to release the episodes in any old order. Is this true?"


I just watched the second episode this weekend, and you are right, the episodes are being played back out of order. The second episode played was "The Devil in the Dark" (Season 1, Episode 25), which is the classic episode about the creature named "Horta" that Spock does a mind meld with to discover that it's a mother. The miners are unknowingly killing her babies, so she's killing the miners.

I didn't really notice any new enhancements on this episode. Most of this episode was indoors (down inside the planet of Janus VI). All in all, this episode was fantastic - because it was fantastic the first time it aired in 1967.
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Nothing wrong with Shatner's acting - its his singing thats a problem.

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Spock isn't much better. Look up his Hobbit song for a laugh.

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Ah, think I found it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9KKyZ5d3h8

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Thats not too bad really - typical '60s style... Heard it years ago.

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As I understand it, the first showing of the enhanced star trek episodes is due in new york at 3:30am... I don't think most people will even notice it.

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