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FPSC Classic Models and Media / [LOCKED] Lasers instead of bullets?

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Lukeirado
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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 21:23
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Hey, guys, I was wondering HOW can u get rid of bullets and add laser effects, like Star Wars, or something... Is it possible? If so, how?

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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 21:53 Edited at: 24th Sep 2006 21:55
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Use the force, Luke.

Currently, FPSC has no particle system, so I don't know how you could do it.

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Errant AI
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You can kinda fake it by using geometry for the beams and moving them around durring the firing animation but it is far from perfect.

I'm attaching a short clip of some experimenting I did a while back. Semi-neat, I suppose.

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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 22:28
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That was cool nice fake.

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SpyDaniel
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Errant, did you do that buy animating a beam to appear at the end of the gun when you fire?

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Locrian
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"Semi neat"...I hate this guy..I really do. Makes something thats pretty much a finished product and says.."Pfft...a wile back...sucked though so I moved on"...lol

Nice job for a 'trial'
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Errant AI
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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 22:39 Edited at: 24th Sep 2006 22:53
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Yeah.

The beam sits behind the camera/gun and when it firing, it moves foreward. The beam is incredibly long and has to travel really far to reach the centerpoint.

I had to put the emitter under the grip portion because you see it come from behind otherwise. I suppose if the gun was long enough to go off screen it would work ok. I could see an E-11 type Star Wars blaster being able to work like this because of the long tub-shaped body.

edit: crossposted with Locrian... I wrote it off as a learning experience. When you move into shadow the beam gets dark like the gun does and at that point I decided it wasn't worth it to go any further. The illumination shader didn't look like it was compatible with POV weapons and I'm too much of an FPSC noob to try to mess with that kind of thing.
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Check The fourm about my flamthrower it talkes about adn invisble bullet and a flame muzzle flash u could od the same but insted of a flame you could do a lazer.

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Plus, with errant's weapon, if he'd turned 45 degrees left or right, and shot one of the two corridoor walls down towards the target, you would've seen the beam going straight through the wall.

But yeah, that aside, the blaster is really nice.

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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 06:18
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Errant AI-any chance of us getting ahold of that laser gun?

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Errant AI
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Actually, the laser beam never clips through anything. The HUD stuff renders last. The problem is that if, say, you shoot a wall right in front of you, It still looks like the beam has travled far into the distance even though it hit something right next to you.

Its a little hard to see in a low quality vid, so I'll post the HUD.X and the gunspec to mess around with. Not including a color map but I'll post the alpha channel. Laser bolt is in the lower right.

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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 19:48
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I'm bumping this, because people probably wont realise Errant has kindly donated his gun.

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Lukeirado
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Hey, thanks 4 the help guys. I am trying this out right now! =D

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Lukeirado
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Wait... How am I supposed to get it to work???? =( Plz, tell me, I am a noob...................

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Errant AI
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Lukeirado,

Have a look at the tacked weapon importing tutorial by Opposing Force that's tacked to the top of this forum. It will help you understand the components I've posted.

The quick and dirty:

1.Make a copy of the scifi\blaster directory located in gamecore\guns.

2.Rename the new directory whatever you want.

3.In the new directory, overwrite the file named HUD.X with the .X file I have provided (make sure you rename it).

4. Open the Gunspec.txt file in notepad.

5. Replace the text with the text I have supplied in the code snippet.

6. Assign the new weapon to the be the starting weapon.

NOTE: The texture will be messed up but you can see how the effect looks/works (more or less). This is only intended to help people learn a little about faked laser weapons and is not a complete weapon in any sense. The more FPSC savvy you are, the more you will get out of it.

Good luck and may teh force be with you.
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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 23:48
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I am going to have to try this out later.
Thanks for the gun and the help and for donating it to the FPSC community.

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Lukeirado
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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 00:12
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Yes, finally one of my topics isn't useless... Thanks to Errant AI!

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Lukeirado
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How do I add both textures, a red 1 4 the laser and another one 4 the gun?

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rock candy
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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 01:22
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Can you either supply with the texture file, or give us a blank uv map?

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Lukeirado
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I am working on a texture right now... Let's see what comes up.

(Errant, if u have one and you can share it with us, plz do so )

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Errant AI
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Lukeirado, It's one map for both. You'll need to edit whatever "gun_D2.dds" or "gun_D.dds" (if you're using shaders) is in the directory that you copied for the laser. See where there's a gradation in the lower, right-hand portion of the map? That's the laser portion of the map. Make that part red. Make the rest dark grey or something.

Edit: ahh I see you've allready started- cool! I saw you modeled an E-11 for your stormtrooper that looked pretty nice. You should work on getting that into FPSC as soon as you feel confident with HUD weapon editing.

Sorry Rock Candy, no-can-do on the UV maps. I'm only trying to share knowledge, so that people can learn a method to make their own. Hope you understand.
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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 05:46
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I know how to make a UV map if you can post model in obj...

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Lukeirado
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OH, the gun didn't have any texture. It was only a model with a gray color on it.

But anyways, I will make a texture out of that gun =D. I hope it works fine...

And rocky, if you make anything, share it with us.

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Sry 4 double posting, but I made my texture, but the gun is still all white. What did I do wrong, it is at the TGA format and I changed the gunspect file already.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2006 03:34
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post the texture and I'll see if i can figure it out.

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A little bit old of a thread to bump.

I really like the gun that Errant AI made, I've tried making textures it, but they all came out bad.

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Please don't bump.

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