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Phaelax
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 21:57
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I though I'd share this chart with everyone else.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_08.php


I've been using Norton since the 90's. (yes I paid for it) I've been getting sick of how bloated its become. Although it stands as one of the best detection AV's out there, it doesn't quite remove it all. I wanted to try something less bloated and most people recommend either AVG or Nod32. Though, AVG is free, it seems to suck at detecting polymorphic virii. According to the table at the link above, Nod32 seems to be the next best AV to try for someone wanting to get away from Norton. Unless you run a DOS box, in which case stick with McAfee.

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 22:23
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I tried Nod32, but deleted it because it doesn't like Azureus...

oh yeah, and
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The requested file could not be found.

Please ensure that you are trying to access the correct URL. Only links to our main site are allowed."




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SirFire
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 22:32
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I think a very important factor when choosing AV software is how much lag it adds to disk and memory access.

I use Avast b/c I don't even notice a performance difference, unlike other AV software that introduce significant system slowdowns. I'm not talking about scheduled full-scans, I'm talking about everyday usage.

I've never liked Norton and find their software to be unstable and sometimes dangerous to PC health. Mcaffee (sp?) purposefully allows certain "endorsed" virii through. AVG licensing is a headache in my experience.

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 23:14
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Phaelax - I'll stick in my vote for NOD32 here (again!) I too used Norton for years, and felt the same way as you until I read a report on NOD32 a few years back, switched, and will never change. The whole TGC team use NOD32 now. In all fairness I do use AVG on this very server though! But NOD32 is the shizzle.

Quote: "I tried Nod32, but deleted it because it doesn't like Azureus..."


I run them both, what exactly didn't it like? I'm not being smart with you, am just genuinely curious.

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2006 00:12 Edited at: 3rd Oct 2006 00:12
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Massive cpu useage (100%), had to manually reboot.

Actually, I just did some checking and it seems this is caused by outdated java platform thingees - meh, wish I'd seen that a month ago


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indi
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2006 03:44
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here is some data
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_02.php

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_08.php

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jinzai
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2006 04:56
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I parted with them after Peter Norton's influence seemed to wane. Yes, the products were all bloated then. Symantec created this nice JavaBeansSDK (can't recall its name att....)for use with Philips Microcontrollers. It was very bloated, but neat.

I am also annoyed at AV in general, but that is the nature of security...it also makes legitimate use more difficult.

I understand AV software needs to be there at startup, but all of the other garbage does not. (I am not only referring to AV utilities, I mean QuickTime for example...There is bloated software from a manufacturer whose software I used to revere almost...but, not now.)

Anyway, software system security is an area that I wish I did not have to spend so much time studying. I loathe hacking...I love black boxes, and figuring them out, however....
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Phaelax
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Posted: 4th Oct 2006 02:15
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I guess they don't allow off-site linking. For those trying to find the results, from the main page click on "Comparitives" then find the most recent report; #11 is what I was looking at.

Speaking of security, that reminds me that I have to go register my classes. My major has shifted slightly from just CIS to computer forensics; recovering deleted or corrupted files, etc..

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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 4th Oct 2006 02:59 Edited at: 4th Oct 2006 03:02
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I downloaded AVG the other day after seeing it in Matts Worm thread and it did a good job of finding a few things but opening some folders can take 10-15 seconds now that its installed.

Edit: One it didn't remove is one that pops open a window to WinAntiVirus software all the time. I love that they give me a virus to load their page for antivirus software.

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jinzai
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Posted: 4th Oct 2006 05:30
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@Phaelax...they actually have a name for that, and classes? WOW..I'm old.

Now, that is a useful major!
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Jess T
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Posted: 4th Oct 2006 16:14 Edited at: 4th Oct 2006 16:21
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Hobgoblin,

That'd probably fall under the categorie of either spyware, or adware, neither of which is AVGs specialty (get Adaware or SpyBot S&D or something to that effect).

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Dazzag
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Posted: 4th Oct 2006 16:59 Edited at: 4th Oct 2006 17:00
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I have Norton and SpySweeper running. Even my AMD 4400 x2 seems to chug a little now and again with it And I've tried mucking around on all my machines and it's basically Norton slowing everything down (one laptop took ages to send emails all the time). Even SpySweeper running with all the shields on doesn't effect the system anything like Norton. Once the new SpySweeper comes out with built in virus killer (beta at the minute) then I think I'll ditch Norton. Bloatwaretastic. Heh, although check out memory usage using that new cover view option in Itunes 7. Glad I have 2gb as 100's of MB can dissapear like nothing. Just to have a 3Dish view of the album covers....

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Phaelax
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Posted: 5th Oct 2006 11:19
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I refuse to upgrade iTunes past 4. I'm at 4.9 right now and I keep the setup programs just incase I need to recover a computer and I don't like newer versions of software. I just wish they would stop bundling quicktime with everything.

I'm gonna give the Nod32 trial a run, and if all goes well I'll probably buy it when the trial ends.

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