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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 5th Oct 2006 23:49 Edited at: 5th Oct 2006 23:49
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I assume the way this form works is that each post has a unique id (auto-inc field in MySQL?). If so - it'd be fantastic each each post had its own ID Anchor (eg, <A name="test"></A> ) so when you're referring to a post you could just do something like:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=90155&b=2#123456
which would refer to post id 123456.

Is there a way this can currently be done?

The problem with saying "the 1st post on page 6" is peple configure their pages to have different post counts on them, so the 1st on 6 for me might be 8th on 12 for Joe Bloggs.

The reason I ask is I'm considering the tedious task of adding links from each of the coding challenges in the database at [href]www.dbp-site.com[/href] to the specific starting post in the challenges thread. Tedious, I know - but could be DAMN usefull.

Of course, the knock on effect (which I've just realised from above) is if you refer to post 123456 on page 8 of thread 123 you still suffer from the posts-per-page issue...

Working on the principal that the URL is based like this:
Quote: "m=forum_view&t=89796&b=2&p=1"

(the your momma jokes thread)
How about the ability to specify a pst arguement instead of p (t=thread, b=board, p=page). Iif you specify a pst then the forum could work out how far down the list that post is and then find the page by dividing by posts-per-page and flooring the result?

Or - how about instead of using the post ID, you could anchor each post by its position in the thread (ie 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc).

I really think this'd be a fantastic feature. Can anyone think of any issues with my above idea?

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 01:26
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Good idea, and it wouldnt be awfully hard either

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 12:15
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just the one reply?

Cheers Kentaree - i was hoping this'd stir up a little debate or at least a reply from Rich saying "NO!"

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 12:22 Edited at: 6th Oct 2006 12:23
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it is possible but you would have to view the source to get the post nr.


as you can see, the first post in this thread is called "msg1016199" and the url would then be http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=90463&b=2#msg1016199

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I agree. Good idea. Sounds pretty easy to implement too. Of course, it's easy for me to say that .... but that's exactly why I'm saying it.


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I agree this would be pretty cool, and maybe a better quote system, where you could press a quote button next to someones post and it dumps there post in your message field including there name,date etc.

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@LukasW: That'd only work if you used your own browser or plugin to go through the code, all Rich'd need to do is get that message id and put it in an <a> tag

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 15:14
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It'd work for quoting - however it doesn't solve the issue of which page that post is on. It just so happens you picked the first post as an example. What if that post was post 21 and you had 20 posts per page and I had 30?

Thats why I was thinking it'd be a neat feature to have the post ID as an arguement in the address so you can say "I wanna see post 123456" and the forum would automatically take you to the page... or alternatively, redirect you to the correct page for your settings + an anchor as shown in lucas's post to the correct post.

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 15:51
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Quote: "Thats why I was thinking it'd be a neat feature to have the post ID as an arguement in the address so you can say "I wanna see post 123456" and the forum would automatically take you to the page... or alternatively, redirect you to the correct page for your settings + an anchor as shown in lucas's post to the correct post."


Like this you mean?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/xt/xt_goto_post.php?mid=253698

Or for the post you just made:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/xt/xt_goto_post.php?mid=1016551

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how do you know your post number rich?
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Just hover over the 'toggle' link and look in status bar. That is why the DIV has an ID on it now, I believe.

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View source, or hover over the toggle button, or the 'abuse' link.

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Wahooot we've finally got "newest post" buttons!


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I think a lot of us have been waiting for that


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Yeah, I am thinking of making the link to the thread title the same as 'newest post', to save having it in a separate link - after all, if you have not visited the thread before it just takes you to the first post in the thread anyway, so really it's duplicating functionality. The only reason to leave it would be if someone wanted to go to the first page of a thread OR the newest post, although I'm trying to think of a reason for this and it's evading me

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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 17:46 Edited at: 6th Oct 2006 17:48
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It would be great if the newest post link brought you to the first new post since you last viewed the thread so you could continue reading from where you left off, instead of back tracking to it, that would be brill.

edit - ...and also put it into the main link as you say above!


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Posted: 6th Oct 2006 17:46 Edited at: 6th Oct 2006 17:51
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Why not use small icons (8x8's or something) which refer to newest or last... Something like ">" or ">|"
* looks on iconbuffet *

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http://www.iconbuffet.com/products/oslo
Maybe like the FF and SkipFF icons in that set (and probably most of the others too).

EDIT 2: @Xtom - thats what the newest post link does, isn't it?

EDIT 3: Btw - how rude of me - thanks for these fantastic features rich!!

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And while you're at it put a page selector on the subject line...

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@Jerbil - do you know how cluttered that'd make the subject line look?!

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Quote: "It would be great if the newest post link brought you to the first new post since you last viewed the thread so you could continue reading from where you left off, instead of back tracking to it, that would be brill."


Err, thats what it does, or did you mean something else?

Quote: "And while you're at it put a page selector on the subject line..."


I thought about it, but figured it's pointless - I mean, do YOU know exactly which page you need to jump to in order to read a specific message in all given threads?

Quote: "Btw - how rude of me - thanks for these fantastic features rich!!"


No worries. The 'goto post' one existed already, I just modified it to link-up to a 'newest' post. I'm not too keen on using icons for paging in the thread title itself to be honest. But if I make the thread title do the same as 'newest post' anyway I could have a 'First | Last' link option.

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That makes sense - they're shorter words anyway, which will help

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Quote: "I thought about it, but figured it's pointless - I mean, do YOU know exactly which page you need to jump to in order to read a specific message in all given threads?"


Usually I do remember where I left off reading, or where the last thing I read was. I think it would be nice to have that feature, though it would be cluttered. Maybe a drop down box on the subject line somehwere with all the pages?

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Quote: "Maybe a drop down box on the subject line somehwere with all the pages?"

Like at the top and bottom of every thread page?

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The new functionality is absolutely fantastic.

The "Clutter" is bad! I agree with just positioning to the newest post you haven't read, and removing the shortcut.



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I think what would be nice is if a thread has new posts, the folder icon changes and if you click it, it goes to the first unread post. It would remove the clutter..

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What about a small button by each message that let's you mark it as last read? Because if your reading 100 messages, then halfway through you have to imediantly stop, then that entire page will be marked as read. But if you could mark your last post, that'd be nice.

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By the way, does the 'latest post' thing take into account post-per-page settings? Because it just functioned incorrectly.

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Quote: "EDIT 2: @Xtom - thats what the newest post link does, isn't it?"


Quote: "Err, thats what it does, or did you mean something else?"


Oh sorry guys, it does work like that, my bad. Excellent stuff!


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Quote: "By the way, does the 'latest post' thing take into account post-per-page settings? Because it just functioned incorrectly."

Works fine with me so far - whats your PPP settings?

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Quote: "Works fine with me so far - whats your PPP settings?"

25 posts per page.

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Quote: "Quote: "It would be great if the newest post link brought you to the first new post since you last viewed the thread so you could continue reading from where you left off, instead of back tracking to it, that would be brill."

Err, thats what it does, or did you mean something else?"


Every thread I click on the newest post for just brings me to page 1, post 1 of the thread, even though the newest since I viewed it last was further on. I think that is what he meant as well.

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Works ok for me, mine's set at 40 messages per page.

I take that back, newest post doesn't work for me. On the DB coding challenge thread it just takes me to the first page.

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I like and dislike the 'Newest thread' option.
Its great for backtracking, but a rather large eye sore!

What I wouldn't mind seeing is at the bottom of the forum home, the number of registered users! I have always wanted to kno whow many people exactly are using the forums!


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Quote: "By the way, does the 'latest post' thing take into account post-per-page settings? Because it just functioned incorrectly."


It works for me if there is only one page of posts. Any more, and it just takes me to page 1.

I have it set to 100 posts per page



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I'm set to 25 messages per page, and it works regardless of which page the newest thread is on (yes of course it takes your personal messages per page into account). I'll change to 100 and run some more tests but not today, too much going on.

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I don't think this has anything to do with your forum software Rich, but when i am at work, i cannot use the "Newest Post" button.

it redirects me to ...xt/xt_goto_unread_post.php?tid=xx
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Quote: "Appliance Error (internal_error)

An unrecoverable error was encountered: ""
This problem is unexpected. Please use the contact information below to obtain assistance.

For assistance, contact your network support team."


I too have 25 messages per page, at home i haven't recieved any error message, or wrong page/post (except for the "word association" thread).

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I'm set at 40 posts per page.

If newest post is on page one, then it correctly loads up page one and scrolls to correct post.

However, like BatVink, if newest post is on another page, then it just loads up page one.

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Quote: "I'm set at 40 posts per page.

If newest post is on page one, then it correctly loads up page one and scrolls to correct post.

However, like BatVink, if newest post is on another page, then it just loads up page one."


Same here except mine is set to 25 posts per page and it's still broken.

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Hmmm It works for me - but I think it only works if the newest post is not more than 1 page from the last page of the thread...

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