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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 01:20
Hi,
Im considering buying a new computer inteneded for gaming. My budget is $2000 Canadian. Can anybody give me advice on where to get it?


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PS I\'d prefer to buy from a Canadian site....

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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 01:45
Well I would have suggested an AlienWare Computer, but Dell bought them out. Some of the new fancy Dells are nice. Don't get the cheapo ones, shop their site for the top quality units, they are pretty good. You get what you pay for, be cautious and savvy

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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 01:58
Build your own, much cheaper! I dunno of any Canada sites, but Newegg.com and Tigerdirect.com are both excellent sites to buy from.

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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 02:21
Build your own, and if you can't/ you're afraid to break something, you could get an Alienware Aurora or a Dell XPS, which I hear aren't too bad. I personally have a Sony Vaio, but it's built more for video editing and whatnot than game development (although I use it for game dev without any problems). In terms of pre-built PC's, Alienware makes the best gaming systems hands-down, although since they were bought by Dell I have no idea if they're any good anymore. Chances are they're made with parts from the cheapest manufactures now, like Dells are, but back in the day Alienware were the crem dela crem of PC's.


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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 03:04
Wrong Matt. Wrong indeed, Falcon Northwest holds the crown, and has for a while. But alien ware was always the best at publicity...

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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 13:23
alienware was always overpriced.

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Posted: 19th Oct 2006 13:31
Yes, build your own and get more for your money. My compo cost me £1800 to build and I worked out it would've been about £2700 if I'd bought it ready made. It was the first compo I built and it was easy to put together. The only effort you need to put in is making sure all the components you order will work properly together (mainly just CPU, MB, RAM, HD).


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Posted: 20th Oct 2006 00:20
I considered building my own but how do you make sure the parts will work together?

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Posted: 20th Oct 2006 02:39
Computer Discount Warehouse
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Posted: 20th Oct 2006 03:00
huh? cna you give the url...

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Posted: 20th Oct 2006 23:07
It's pretty easy to assemble a computer. If you're unsure about the compatibility of parts, ask us here. You may also want to read over Indi's thread.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2006 01:39
The XPS is nice. I've got that. (laptop, not desktop though)

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Posted: 21st Oct 2006 05:02
thanks, although phaelax you said to rea dover indie's thread, which one is that?

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Posted: 21st Oct 2006 15:11
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2006 17:39 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2006 18:34
Okay after advice, patience, and many websites I found this:
www.tigerdirect.ca


And so I decided that likely this is where Im gonna get the parts for my computer from. And here are the parts/links:

Barebone set(includes case, motherbord, cooling fan, power supply)
BAREBONE

My RAM

RAM

Graphics Card
GRAPHICS

Hard drive
Hard Drive

Windows:
WINDOWS

other things:
Monitor
Keyboard/Monitor
Speakers(haven't decided yet)

The entire system costs abotu $1800 Canadian.

SO what o you think? And also do are these parts compatible? I'm pretty sur ethey are but it would be niceto know someone else's opinion. Also am I missign anything from there? Besides speakers...


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2006 18:15
Dude, you haven't actually listed any parts. You've given us the part categories twice.

What you need to do is plan your budget, which you have already, then think about the following:

The main "engine" of your computer - The motherboard, CPU and graphics card combo.

Choose a CPU type/speed. I think most people would say get AMD, but some would say Intel. Buy the best you can afford. Look at the socket /connect type for that CPU.

Now find a motherboard which supports that socket type, clock speed etc. Basically make sure the stats quoted on the CPU match what the mother board can support.

Now find the best graphics card you can afford in your budget. Look for PCI-Express (speed types), AGP, SLI etc. All buzz words. Find the best you can afford, and make sure it fits into your mobo. So if your GPU uses a PCI-Express slot, make sure your motherboard has one.

Next find RAM for your motherboard. Look at what types are quoted as supported by your motherboard. Buy the most amount of MBs, of good quality ram with the highest datarate/clock speeds, that are compatible with your motherboard.

Now find hard disks. Choose how many you want. You're probably best off with one. Look at connection types like IDE and SATA. Find out what connections your MOBO supports. Get the highest connection type HDs that your mobo supports. SATA2 or something. I'm not up on HDs, but preferably not IDE, as that is old.

Getting a sound card, or using onboard sound? Your sound card will fit, no matter what you choose, unless you get a very crap MOBO.

Choose your drives. DVD drive? 1? or 2? One for reading, one for writing. These will be compatible as well, so dont worry.

Choose a case. Make sure the case fits your motherboard, and has enough slots for your HDs and DVD drives.

Choose a PSU. I would recommend a 500Watt or higher to be safe.

Then choose your peripherals (monitor, keyboard etc) Unlikely to have compatibility issues here.


If you invest sometime, you can get an awesome compo. If you don't you'll waste money and maybe lose out a bit. Each component you find, look for reviews for it online. Compare it with other component reviews. Make your decisions based on raws stats like performance charts etc. Just use google, tap in the hardware name and search for reviews. Easy.

So, to some up:

(1) Motherboard is the key to compatibility. Choose your motherboard, CPU and graphics card. Spend time here. This is the most important and most expensive bit. Make sure the motherboard has good reviews and the right ports/sockets for your GPU and CPU.
(2) Get the best/fastest and most RAM you can for your motherboard.
(3) Get the best hard disk(s) you can that support your motherboards fastest HD access technology.
(4) Soundcards, DVD drives, case (that is big enough for all your devices and takes your motherboard type), then peripherals.
(5) Keep rejigging the stats so it fits in your budget.
(6) SHOP AROUND for the best prices.

It's worth doing. It's a great learning experience, not difficult to do and if you put some time in, it'll save you money and you'll end up with a monster machine.


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Posted: 22nd Oct 2006 21:39
sorry abotu tthe links, they were dead...anyway, now they should work.

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Posted: 24th Oct 2006 03:32
anyone?

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