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David R
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Posted: 26th Oct 2006 19:01 Edited at: 9th Aug 2008 23:42
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http://fredericiana.com/
(This is real, not a spoof)

Anyone else find that a tad weird? I mean, I know that underneath the competing products, they are simply programmers, but is this some strange marketing ploy on MS's half or something - to make them appear friendly?


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Haha.

Nahhh, it's just that microsoft employees have a good sense of humor


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rofl ms trying to be nice since when?

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Thats funny. I'll make a spoof of that and give it to my friends.

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It's actually not so weird - they've been communicating and even collaborating in small ways for a while now, not very much, but it has been happening

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A cake from Microsoft???

I wouldn't eat it. There's probably bugs in it.

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Quote: "I wouldn't eat it. There's probably bugs in it."

Hehe, stole the words out of my mouth.

That IS pretty funny though. All MSFT employees are not tyranical, unethical thieves like most of their executives are. As was stated before, the programmers are just programmers and they probably have a sense of humor even if they DO work for MSFT.

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Quote: "All MSFT employees are not tyranical, unethical thieves like most of their executives are."


Um, ok

Yah that's funny--- the FF team should reply with some autographed Mozilla T-Shirts or something

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News just in: FF team throw burning fox carcass through Bill Gates' window.

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The news just died

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I bet that ain't chocolate...

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Before CR stole my line I was gonna say I'm willing to bet it's a flavor that nobody likes, like, I dunno, Spinache-Kiwi-Lemon cake or something A part of me thinks this is the IE team being nice, another part of me wonders if it's supposed to be taken as "we're the big dog, you're the little dog," like, say I made a post where I said I had just accomplished something and someone said "what, you want a cookie?" I'm wondering if this was some weird and infinitely humorous way of doing something to meet that end. In either case, it's pretty darn cool. I hope I have competition someday so I can send them a cake hehe.

Edit: Did anyone else notice the cake has no color in it? That's what led me to wonder if perhaps this was sent without the best intentions. It's the M$ black cake of death!


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Mozilla noted this on their blogs.
I'd say that with both development teams now totally restructured and replaced with new people, there isn't that old rivalry there.

The new IE team actually are a very friendly bunch of people who were dedicated to shipping IE7 as the best internet browsing experience rather than trying to just 1-UP the Mozilla boys.

I think that this is a quite a nice gesture.

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How do you know the IE team are nice people?

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There's a catch. They probably sent the caterering bill to the Firefox guys.

Or the MS team just each took turns pooping into the cake dough as someone here already mentioned...mmm...creamy....

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I heard it is all icing. The actual cake will be released in a patch.

Oh.. and it is colored. The cake just needs rebooted before you can see it properly.

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Quote: "rather than trying to just 1-UP the Mozilla boys."


Which is an ironic statement, since nearly all the new features in IE7 are directly taken, if not 'stolen' as you will, from FF

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Posted: 26th Oct 2006 22:32 Edited at: 26th Oct 2006 22:32
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Its nice of the programmers to be uh, nice.
Its the customers who make the rivalries on forums "Get Firefox!" "View this on Internet Explorer"

The rivalries between the programmers are most likely like our own rivalries in the Nvidia compo. We are competing.. but in a friendly way.
(unless you guys are badmouthing me behind my back )
besides, it is hillariously funny.


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Quote: "if not 'stolen' as you will, from FF"


And the FF guys "stole" many features from other browsers. It goes on and on.

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I should play around with Firefox more. I have it installed but I don't really use it, mostly because I don't know much about it. One of my friends insisted I install it, which I did, but when I asked why it's better than IE they just said "it's not made by Microsoft." Well, they also said "you can't get viruses through Firefox" but I already know that's a load of garbage and I haven't even used it yet lol


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Quote: "I heard it is all icing. The actual cake will be released in a patch. "


That has to be one of the funniest yet true to life things ever stated on this board.

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I bet when they sliced in they got a message saying "Microsoft cake has encountered an error and needs to close."

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yeah yeah, lame jokes...

And I suppose after a few minutes the cake became infested with viruses and requested that you'd install Microsoft Cake SP 2 to make it look like you're safe.

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Quote: "How do you know the IE team are nice people?"


i'd say judgeing purely on the blogs, they come across as peeps who are just trying to make a good product.
there's also a number of internal microsoft things that have come down the grapevine about it, like when the team leader apparently told Gates that he's out-of-touch with reality when he was being forced to make a product specifically to compete with the Mozilla project.

might be true, might not be... hard to say with rumours. do know that the xbox team have said something similar, Allard definately doesn't agree with Gates' business ethos. Might be why the 360 actually is designed around those developing and playing rather than trying to be a beastie.

there are some pretty radical changes that have happened in the MS divisions, since they realised that Gates is more of a PR puppet now.

Quote: "Which is an ironic statement, since nearly all the new features in IE7 are directly taken, if not 'stolen' as you will, from FF"


Features provided were already in IE6 (and you've not noticed them) or were requested. The team didn't set out to copy any other browser and honestly the look and feel for use, I honestly don't think they "took" features at all.

About the only feature that seems remotely like it could've been copied is the 'Search' feature; which actually doesn't act that much like the Google Search on FF, as you can do quite a bit more with it than just typing in a name and hoping for the best as it integrated with the desktop, internet and even tab contents.

Tabs at a glance look like copied, however a) FireFox wasn't the first browser to use tabs and b) they are very different to use.

In all the feature I like the most, which has totally surprised me why it's taken so long to add to a browser is the combined Go/Refresh button. I'd have to say feature for feature, both browsers are futher apart now than ever before.

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Sort-of... it's a bit like the difference between Mozilla and FireFox, same technology different take.

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It's good, but it would have been MUCH better if they'd sent over a (still hot) batch of grandma's Oven-Baked Cookies, each with a little 'e' on it, and a card that says what the cake says.

Now, that would have been ironical

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Quote: "Now, that would have been ironical"

Care to elaborate on why?

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The key phrase is "batch of grandma's Oven-Baked Cookies"




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^^

Quick take a screenshot!

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Quote: "I bet when they sliced in they got a message saying "Microsoft cake has encountered an error and needs to close.""




Hahahahaha... no Higgins, THAT was the funniest yet true thing stated on the forums.... -)


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hahah, your all wrong. It is running xp, and therefore more stable than my damnable 64bit linux install! I never did get why people ripped on microsoft. Windows hasnt given me any errors, I dont have spyware or virus's, and I am not magical=O

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Quote: "The key phrase is "batch of grandma's Oven-Baked Cookies""


But Firefox uses cookies too... Or am I being REALLY thick?

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You are right Nicholas. I think many people are to thick over here in "Micro$oft sux land" to remember this

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So which browser uses muffins?

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Wasn't there a recently overflow exploit in IE related to cookies?

EDIT: This is effectively me just 'clutching at straws' because I have no idea what the hell is going on with all this 'Grandma's cookies' stuff

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Quote: "Wasn't there a recently overflow exploit in IE related to cookies?

EDIT: This is effectively me just 'clutching at straws' because I have no idea what the hell is going on with all this 'Grandma's cookies' stuff"

Well... Maybe his grandma makes a lot of cookies, and uh, there were so many it was overflowing the oven and uhm the firefox guys were like WTF is this this is not cool! oh wait a card and then they're happy.

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@Xeno - Higgins hasn't posted in this thread at all.

I like cookies.

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One day, someone on the internet will use the word "irony" and actually use it in the correct context. Unfortunately for the thread author, the cake in question is not ironic. Interesting, yes. Shows that Microsoft isn't all evil, possibly. Ironic, no.

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It appears rather steely to me.

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Ho nose, wit, get it away from me!

(personally though, it seemed more brassy to me)

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Quote: "So which browser uses muffins?"

I kid you not - I'm SURE I heard that Java uses Muffins!

Quote: "I guess you really have to be a hardcore browser geek to get this one from Jess"

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Nobody understands developers, not normal people at least, so we have to stick together . I imagine that the cake represented a genuine congratulations, because at the end of the day they're both doing the same thing in similar companies behind big steaming piles of marketing bull.

Besides, everyone knows cake get's things done in IT departments... Want a new work PC? - bring me cake, internet down - bring me cake, too stupid to install a printer driver - bring me cake...

It works like 2-3 times a year, and I do indeed recieve cake (usually just donuts though). I suppose I work in quite a relaxed and corrupt company, in the summer the MD often sends the purchasing girl to the supermarket for ice lollies .

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Wow... I didn't mean anything cryptic about it...

Just that they both use Cookies, and by MS sending FF a (condescending) gift, they're not only having a dig at FF, but exactly the same thing applies to themselves.

And the ironical part is that they're sending them physical cookies, which is a litteral meaning on the whole 'cookie' analogy used by browsers for receiving something that you didn't necessarily want.

(That's the right meaning of irony, isn't it?)

Anyhoo - The whole point was that they are both internet browsers, and they both use these electronic things called 'cookies', so it would have been funnier to send them a box of physical, edible cookies, no?

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See, when I first heard that, I assumed there was something more amusing underneath the simple fact they use cookies

I'm rather appalled by this 'joke'

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Quote: "Quote: "The key phrase is "batch of grandma's Oven-Baked Cookies""

But Firefox uses cookies too... Or am I being REALLY thick?"

We're both being thick. The difference is, I won something out of my thickness


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I think it was just nice of them. There's a lot of vitriol on both sides of the debate, obviously, but many of the actual designers and developers on both sides have a lot of respect for the other team. Well-earned respect, in my opinion; both IE7 and Firefox (1.0 through 2.0) are impressive accomplishments.
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