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Puani Hicaucai
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 04:29 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 04:32
hello.

this is so annoying I don't know where to start.

well... my friends and I have been developing a game for almost two years. we did name it in the first week (let's say the name was ""). we did see another game with the same name ("") today. and it was released few days ago.

is there any problem on keeping the same name for our game?
the name is a simple word. does not sound like any other "expensive" name. so what do you think?

thanks

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indi
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 04:35
unfortunately when your a bedroom banger and another commercial enterprise has vested thousands in a return, you might find it hard to evaluate the costs included to fight the rights for your game name.

next time perhaps register your game name as a business name and you will have a better chance of recouping the name.

Puani Hicaucai
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 04:57
thank you for the quick reply, indi

well. lets give the game a non-numerical surname then
the game is not near to be finished. we still hope that the 'other' company doesn't crash until then so we try to get the name at non-heartbreaker price

thank you for the information.

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indi
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 04:57
good luck mate

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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 05:02
you can always ad "z0rz" to the end.

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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 05:24
I think your best bet is just to change the name, I mean I honestly don't think it matters that much if noone even knows what the name is yet . I was forced to do the same thing with my game (Pirates of Port Royale, originally named Pirates), but then a game with the same name came out, so I just changed it.

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Van B
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 08:17
Pirates is an old strategy classic from the 16-bit era though, the name was claimed long before Port Royale .

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indi
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 08:27
what was the name so we can at least brain storm it a little.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 10:45
just add ultima before the name. or crazy. or insane. or stupid(not recommended).

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Fallout
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 10:57 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 11:01
Who's the legal dude round here? I can't remember if it was the bear, or somebody else. Anyway, perhaps he'll back me up here, but I believe (and I'm not sure), that it's not possible to trademark a simple english word. This is why we often get films with the same title as previous films, and books with the same title also. If you make up a phrase like "Zuber Clan Warriorz" then that's defo trademarkable. If you just called your game "Balls" then, as far as I know, there's no way you can trade mark that.

I believe the problem only arises when someone releases a game that is very similar at the same time with the same name "Balls", at which point the 1st company might accuse the 2nd company of trying to muscle in on its market by replicating the product. Otherwise, I think the generic word can't be trademarked, and therefore so long as it's simple and the games are noticably different (preferably different genre), you're all good.

So to sum up:
If a game exists called "Mega Monkey Assault Deathoidz", it doesnt matter what genre your game is. You can't use that name. It'd be a blatently rip off of the trademark.

If an FPS game exists called "Blade", you can most likely release an RTS called "Blade" or a puzzle game, or racing game etc. but releasing an FPS game called "Blade" would put you in a potential lawsuit, although, as far as I'm aware, they couldn't actually trademark "Blade" itself - just the concept of an FPS called Blade.

That's my understanding anyways.


Puani Hicaucai
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 15:40 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 15:42
Hello. I'm using Puani's account

Quote: "you can always ad "z0rz" to the end."

Quote: "just add ultima before the name. or crazy. or insane. or stupid(not recommended)."


the game is too serious. I know it works for puzzles and other funny games. Thank you for the attention..

We posted here because changing to a random name would be really painful The current name, which we will probably keep, is the 'key' element of the story.

The name is "Dogma", which I think is not trademarkable. I did a WikipediA search today and understood exactly as Fallout described.

Their game is a Fighting game; ours, Adventure/Action (sorry for this alien grammatical structure).. We'll contact the owners of the 'other' title anyway.

Thank you all

Loüiz

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Peter H
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 15:48 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 15:48
you could name it "dogman"

only one letter off...

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Puani Hicaucai
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 16:12 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 16:13
Quote: ""dogman""


There is another game called Dogman already (by Polygon Magic, I guess).. That's why Hitman changed its name.

scared you..

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 20:53
that happened to me too! those bastards stole the great name I had..."Halflife 2"

damn them

Kentaree
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 20:57
CR, how many times do I have to tell you, you can't rename Hello World...

Chris K
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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 21:15
I've got one!

Half-life 3.

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indi
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 15:57
Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus - Cite This Source
Main Entry: dogma
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: belief
Synonyms: article, canon, conviction, credenda, credo, creed, doctrine, gospel, opinion, persuasion, precept, principle, rule, teachings, tenet, view
Antonyms: doubt
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.3.1)
Copyright © 2006 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

I like tenet, doctrine or creed. I don't know if they are valid synonyms however.

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