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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 21:12 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 21:13
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Another festive seasonal tune. This one is to celebrate some lunatic trying to blow up a load of people in suits with lots of gunpowder and only a cutlass as a backup weapon (miniguns hadn't been invented at that time). This is a rare occurance actually .... me and Scienide colaborating on a tune. So basically we have a rough dnb tune with my basslines and synth action and Scienide's quality drum action, arrangement and attention to detail.

Definitely not for those that aren't into dnb (its quite hard and banging), so if dnb aint your cup of tea, look away now. Otherwise, check it out. It's a grower. Oh, and I'll go easy on critisism this time ... (Hawk) .. I'm off my period. Although Sci will kill you.



Scienide & Fallout - Gunpowder Treason


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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 22:16
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nice nice nice,

love this tune m8, but i have to say it ain't Red Zone. still a rocker of a track though, much kudos

incidently, my lil bro (20 years old) has you down as the best drum n bass artist currently in the UK, and he's into DnB almost as much as me. your tunes grace his iPOD, his phone, his Xbox, his pc.......... oooooozing talent my good man.

you could gain some serious kudos in the indi coder scene by ripping a few 2 minute pacey loops out of your current collection and posting them royalty free for indi game use , just a thought.


cheers, grant.

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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 22:22 Edited at: 1st Nov 2006 22:36
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Heh. The only reason I was so hard on the critz before was because I don't really like softcore dnb songs (techstep and neurofunk ftw!). This, on the other hand, is nice and growly

Hey... was that the vocal snippet from V for Vendetta I just heard? "Remember remember the fifth of novemeber...?"

I like it. But... if I were to change it in any way, I'd turn the synth lines down a little bit in the mix (they drown out the bass a little) and maybe remove some of the long reverb to give it a more "in yer face" feel. But yeah. Nice neurofunky vibes to this one. Me likey


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Posted: 1st Nov 2006 22:50
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@geecee3

Holy batman. Tell your lil bro if he wants my autograph, I can sign a pair of boxers for him (used of course) and post them. No seriously man, that's about the highest praise I've ever got. I know my music isn't to everyones tastes and doesn't generally appeal massively to the mainstream dnb listener, but so long as there are a bunch of people who like it and a few who really like it that much, then I'm really happy.

It's funny you mentioned Red Zone as a comparison though. That is my most slated track on this forum. Went down as sorta below average if I remember rightly.

Quote: "you could gain some serious kudos in the indi coder scene by ripping a few 2 minute pacey loops out of your current collection and posting them royalty free for indi game use , just a thought."


There's really no need man. I really want to write music for peoples games. I would rather be a sound effects engineer and musician for other people games than a programmer or modeller etc. for my own. Seriously, anyone who can get a game to a decent alpha or tech demo stage (and it's not "Sammy the Sphere walks across a Matrix" - basically, half decent and worth of some time invested into it) I will gladly help out with all the sound and music requirements. It's just that people never get anything done otherwise I'd be in there - bashing pots and pans and recording it to make sound effects and writing music. So far the only project I've helped out with is Cash's Geisha House in the form of some music, and possibily some sound effects if he ever gets off his fat arse and sends me the list of what he wants.

@Hawkeye

Yeah, I'm guessing Sci got that sample for V, but I'm not sure. I'll have a word with the man himself and find out.


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V for Vendetta, my favorite movie

cool toonage Fallout (& Scienide)

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(Off topic) V for Vendetta was cool until about 30 minutes before the ending.

First off, he survived like 50 billion bullets.
Second, He died at the end. Not cool.
Third, the ending sucked. Worst choice of music. And then- what the hell- the last line of the movie. "he was my father. My mother. My sister. My dog. My kidnee" I was like "Well what the hell did he do do achieve all that?"

The ending totally ruined the movie




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Cool tune fallout You have a musical ear my friend.


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@Xeno - Uh, not everyone's seen the movie. Thanks for ruining it for me

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Loving it guys, this tune rox.

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Quote: "V for Vendetta, my favorite movie"

Dito. Best. Movie. Ever.

And yes it's not that realistic Xenocythe (in the action sense), I mean people don't fly back five feet when you hit them with a knife. And the ending was great.

MASSIVE PLOT SPOILER!!


He didn't QUITE ruin the movie Jeku, but you need to see it to understand why.

That was some pretty good music Fallout, although I can't say it's the type I'd listen to often. Just not my kind of music.
Seems like a pretty crazy holiday. I can't imagine celebrating the day someone tried to assassinate the president and failed, though the idea is quite intriguing. After I watched V for Vendetta I looked up the Gunpowder Treason and was pretty surprised with all the stuff I learned. I'm also interested in finding the V for Vendetta comics now...
I wonder if there's an American on Apollo who didn't learn of the Gunpowder Treason through that movie...


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I used to be in jungle, this track is pretty well crafted compared to some dribble out there. I feel ya man. good work. It pullsme along without losing my interest, its almost border line psytrance.
my hippy mate would rip this to his cd collection if i told him.

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V for Vendetta was pretty good, even Natalie Portman wasn't half as bad as she normally is (I still think her best performance, by far, was in Leon)... but I agree with Xenocythe, the film lost a bit of credibility towards the end.

And, no, Best Movie Ever has to be either Fellowship of the Ring or The Return of the King (that's Lord of the Rings I and III for the uneducated LOL).

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Quote: "some lunatic trying to blow up a load of people"

What makes you think he was ?

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V for vendetta is a spin off from history, Guy Fawkes night is the outcome.

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Not my style for listening to personally, but it's very cool. It reminds me of games like G-Police and Tunnel B1(a very old saturn game), the music is a very similar style. Very professional sounding.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 11:24 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2006 11:24
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@Bizar Guy

Our celebration of Guy Fawkes night/Bon Fire night/etc. isn't the celebration of an attempted assassination, but the celebration of it's failure. That's why we burn a dummy of guy fawkes ontop of a massive bon fire. Of course, Christmas isn't really a celebration of Jesus's birth for a lot of non-religous people who celebrate it. It's just a family get together and excuse to give presents and eat a big fat turkey and get bladdered. Bon fire night isn't really a celebration of foiling the gunpowder plot anymore ... it's just an excuse to build a HUUUUGE fire and burn a fake man on top of it and let off a load of fireworks.

Btw, on the V for vendetta discussion, I dont find the end that ludicrous. Firstly, wasn't V part of some scientific experiment that made him super hard/super fast? I don't remember exactly. Secondly, he has a massive bit of iron stapped to his chest to make him bullet proof. Thirdly, he only got stuck in the arms and legs and did die of those wounds, which is realistic. The rest is artistic license. A film like that is clearly set in a fantasy world, so you have to give it some room to breathe.

Anyways, thanks for the comments peeps! I'll pass them on to the Sci.


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dont you mean indi fallout?, i mentioned guy fawkes night and im well aware of what it means.

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Nope my good man. Bizar Guy wrote:

Quote: "Seems like a pretty crazy holiday. I can't imagine celebrating the day someone tried to assassinate the president and failed, though the idea is quite intriguing."


I'd expect you to know as an Ausy.


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no worries its an excuse here to let off fireworks in canberra and N.T since they are banned everywhere else.

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Regarding V, I'm more about the message of:

-one person can rally the people to stand against the police-state that their gov't has become / is becoming
-they people can rise up and march on the house of the powers that be (blow it up or not) for change

a bit off topic, but relavant


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lets be careful now regarding political stuffz. I dont disagree tho cattleR.

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Oh dear..

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yep

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hahaha. Was that a texan cowboy type "Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!"?


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oh dear cattle rustler. We need the 3rd parties in '08. Republicans and Democrats are corrupt ill parties that need to be abolished. Besides your last part is so wrong I laugh at you. Our wars aren't profitable. Gah, your train of thought is to anti-government. We dont know anything that you say is true, or what I say is true, just that we think it. At least be optimistic.

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war is indeed profit, and technology advancement is the precursor to it all.
take a look at the tank from wwI to wwII.
even german scientists made leaps and bounds, however immoral it was.
iraq is partly due to resources and the power behind it. there is billions to be made.
anyway getting off track and EULA danger grounds.

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I personally think the idea of any government killing its own people is absolute nonsense. But everyone has their own (in some cases crazy) opinion.

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Steve J, are you living in another dimesion? I can't even begin to reply to you without this getting locked for being "political".

All I can say regarding my last point above is: proof exists, you need to go look for it, no one will serve it up to you - its all around you. Being a citizen (of anywhere in the "free" world) requires work and effort on their part.

I wish you good luck in your endeavors

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Quote: "I personally think the idea of any government killing its own people is absolute nonsense. But everyone has their own (in some cases crazy) opinion."


you, and others, might find declassified gov docs quite interesting, start here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5792753647750188322&q=terror+storm&hl=en

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Quote: "you, and others, might find declassified gov docs quite interesting,"

Doesn't prove anything, darlin'!

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Although I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I do firmly believe it's VERY important to always question your government, read between the lines and take every statement and every action with a pinch of salt. They are there to serve us, and we should never sit back and assume they're doing it right and justly. We should always be looking for errors in their conduct, questioning their actions and doing our own private research into their actions.

It's clearly evident that people abuse their power, sometimes make very poor decisions, and lie about the reasons for it ... always thinking ahead to the next election. If they can get away with it, a lot of the time they'll try to, then backtrack when they're found out. It always happens. "No comment" .. "No comment" .. "It's all rubbish" .. followed by a resignation 5 months later when it's finally all uncovered.

So while I don't buy into the idea that our governments are terrorising us to control us and allow them to do as they please, I do firmly believe they are constantly glossing over the cracks, sweeping mistakes under the carpet and telling us fibs to get things rolling how they want to.

So the blind acceptance that our governments are pure and angelic in comparison to dictators in the middle east, for example, bothers me more than the notion that our governments are crazed lunatics with huge private financial agendas. I think both arguments are wrong, but I think it's much worse to trust then it is to presume guilt where something as important as governments are concerned.


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Liked it dude. Can't give any real crit as I know monkey-testicles about music production, but the tune did it for me.

And why the bugger is everyone talking about V for vendetta and government conspiracies? Was there some sort of subtle subliminal message in Fallout's track that started all of this?

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Quote: "Doesn't prove anything, darlin'! "

Oh so you watched it then? Did I say "proof" or "interesting". Have you then compared it with countless hours of other independent research of all forms? Wow that was fast.

The worst kind of ignorance is the wilful kind.

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Quote: "The worst kind of ignorance is the wilful kind."

Don't we bloody well know it..

Quote: "Have you then compared it with countless hours of other independent research of all forms?"

Yes, the research team all came to the conclusion that "ur stupdi". I'm kidding, CattleRustler.

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Oh CR, not again. Obviously this isn't the forum to spread political propaganda, as has been said half a dozen times before.

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Any mention of V for Vendetta ultimately must lead to a political debate.


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Maybe if I change the speech sample to something from R for Rabbi we'll be better off ...

... oh no. Hang on. Religious debate.

I guess we're screwed either way.

Carry on.




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Jeku, spare me the Polly Prissy Pants act already.
Go check with your boy Indi, did he lock it? No. So stfu. it was ALREADY a moot point.

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hey I dont appreciate that from you cattle smack be very careful what you say, it may cause you to fall from grace.

sorry fallout time to lock this nonsense.

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Indi, wtf are you talking about? Because I said to JEKU "your boy" ? that wasnt a slam against you, but youre too blind or too drunk to notice. Don't ever threaten me pal, especially with something so minor like mod status. Last time I checked you weren't in charge of that, so please shut it. If rich wants to de-mod me then ask him to read this thread and see if it warrants it.

Until then piss off

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I dont respect you much any more, your actions are that of a coward backed in a corner.
your not worthy of moderator status, you act like a child and shall be treated like one from now on.
if you cant follow the AUP and get along with people why be here?.
Im probably older then you anyway kid.

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