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Torrey
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 06:25
Attached is an American Indian tune I started mixing. I'd like to get some opinions on the clip of possible improvements or changes. Currently I have ideas on how to extend the song further, but I want to perfect this portion first.

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Jeku
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 07:25 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2006 07:26
Sounds like the same thing looped again and again.

Make sure to get proper permission too--- remember what happened to Enigma with those Taiwanese natives

EDIT:

Just listened again--- the drums don't sound like they're part of the song. Something about them sounds like they were added.

Torrey
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 09:44
I didn't know the story about the Enigma Taiwanese problem, so I had to look it up. Unfortunetly, it didn't include cannabilism like I was hoping. It does sound like they pissed off most of the Taiwanese people after releasing the track where they used the vocals.

The loops that I used to create this piece were from a now discountinued Native American Sounds loop package from Sony. Like any song I've made using Sony's Acid program I've used various loops, beats, instruments, and vocals to create an original piece.

For this song I used 3 different types of drums, one consistent shaker, the echo flute at the beginning, and vocals from the Sheshone & Navajo Indians.

When creating any type of music I use my PC that has a nice set of Boston Accoustic speakers to feel and experience the music at its best quality. If you close your eyes and listen to that short clip it almost feels like you're at an indian tribal dance. It's toward the end of the clip that bothers me a little. After the Navajo girl does her vocal twice and the Sheshone start their vocals it's there that kind of partially breaks the native dance feeling. Not sure if you or anyone think the same thing?

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 17:49
Not bad Torrey, but that drum that comes in at :41 is really out of place a much diffrent drum from a diffrent region all together. Native Americans generally all drum on 1 community drum so that kind of sound is not very authentic. The speed seems a little fast also. the vocals however are pretty much right most songs are a continuos repetition of a single word or phrase. My best suggestion is find a local Pow Wow and attend it to get the true feel of these songs.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 21:12
Quote: "Not bad Torrey, but that drum that comes in at :41 is really out of place a much diffrent drum from a diffrent region all together. Native Americans generally all drum on 1 community drum so that kind of sound is not very authentic. The speed seems a little fast also."


Thanks for checking out the song and giving suggestions. I'll have to see what I can do about those drums since it was mentioned twice.

Quote: "the vocals however are pretty much right most songs are a continuos repetition of a single word or phrase. My best suggestion is find a local Pow Wow and attend it to get the true feel of these songs."


Indians are a neat culture, but unfortunetly the last indian in this area died about 70 years ago. Growing up in this area we had lots of fake pow wows, but the instruments we had to use were not authentic. Just curious, have you had the opportunity to attend a real pow wow? It'd be awesome to hear about the experience.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 21:26
Quote: "Indians are a neat culture, but unfortunetly the last indian in this area died about 70 years ago. Growing up in this area we had lots of fake pow wows, but the instruments we had to use were not authentic. Just curious, have you had the opportunity to attend a real pow wow? It'd be awesome to hear about the experience."


yes many times growing up, my mother was heavily into our heritage and all. I stopped attending when being native became a "hip" thing and the casino's started to pop up everywhere. My father in law, who oddly enough is Abenaki same as I am, still attends alot of them and is on two drums. I will ask him where he gets some of his recordings and let you know.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 02:50
Quote: "My father in law, who oddly enough is Abenaki same as I am, still attends alot of them and is on two drums. I will ask him where he gets some of his recordings and let you know."


Did you get the chance to ask him over the weekend?

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