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Dbproguy
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 20:23
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I have a question about Microsoft Virtual PC, I have 512MB RAM installed on my computer, but I want 1GB RAM on VPC, is there a way to use my hard drive or something instead of my real RAM for the VPC RAM?

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 20:34
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If you've only got 512MB, then you're going to be swapping like crazy just running Virtual PC anyway. Setting the VPC memory higher than actual system memory is asking for performance akin to a snail in a tar pit.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 20:59
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I know I should have more, but I just wish I could use hard drive space as virtual RAM and if I can I wish I knew how.

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Memory can't be shared either, each virtual machine must own the memory you allocate to it. And remember, you're already running the base installation, which requires a minimum of 256 MB.



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Do you know of any virtual machine emulator--or whatever they are called--that will allow me to use Hard Drive space for virtual RAM?

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 21:27
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i think VMWare does

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Dbproguy
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Okay, thanks cattlerustler.

That would be vmware.com right?

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 21:51
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You do know that swapping is effectively the system using your hard drive as RAM, don't you?

I've no experience in using a virtualised machine, but I suspect that you are going to have the problems that both Rich & BatVink have suggested.

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Posted: 2nd Nov 2006 22:07
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I have none either but my friend suggested running Vista on a virtual machine instead of overwriting windows.

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youre friend is in need of sleep

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you shouldn't consider running a virtual pc with more memory allocated than that is available on the host pc. It just doesn't work - things grind to a halt, and ultimately, you're going to get worse performance on both host and virtual machine than if you used less ram. If you're thinking of running Vista on a virtual machine, I'd get another 512mb stick of RAM, to bring the total in your host PC to 1GB and allocating 512mb to the virtual machine.

An even better suggestion would be to dual boot by using two partitions, you're not going to get anything near the intended experience with Vista running in a virtual machine than if you ran it outside a virtual machine - nothing to stop you trying though, I've got longhorn server running in a virtual machine now to test it out.

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Quote: "I've got longhorn server running in a virtual machine now to test it out."


OMG I know you hack, you f*ggot!

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Quote: "OMG I know you hack, you f*ggot! "


eeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm going to get the admin to ban you. Leave, leave now before the admin bans you.

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To keep this thread on topic mind, has anyone tried sharing hardware on vmware? Apparently, certain devices such as wireless network interfaces can be accessed from the client - I don't have a recent version of vmware to test this out as I tend to use Virtual PC & Virtual Server now. I know that network connections can be setup between the host and vitual machine, but controlling the hwardware directly is quite impressive.

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umm how much would that 512mb stick of ram be again? I know how to find my specs and whatever but installing that stuff on an HP Pavillion, it gets a little tricky

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Quote: "umm how much would that 512mb stick of ram be again?"


Not very much. In pound sterling, I got a stick of 1GB DDR400 for £52

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 18:38
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thats like $80 US!!!

I can get a stick of 512 for $50 I found on newegg.com, and it's the only one there that will fit in my system. (Curse those people at HP!!!)

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