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Benjamin
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 08:31
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Quote: "Trying to up others in the English language is Benjamin's life work. Kind of noble and sad at the same time."

"Up others"? What does this want to say?

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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 13:58
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Artificial or forced languages are doomed to die, since languages are more than just a way to communicate. It's also a rather stupid idea to prevent languages from adopting too many loan words.

Through out the history, the political, economical or cultural power of certain nations have always had a tremendous impact on the languages of other nations. Greece, Rome, France- just to name a few.

While currently English is the most dominant language, this will certainly change in perhaps one or two or more hundred years from now. However, individual languages will survive only as long as they evolve; and that process includes the concept of accepting loan words.

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Chris K
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 14:09 Edited at: 5th Nov 2006 14:10
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I think that with global networking taking over, that a lot of languages maybe will merge into one.

This would only happen with languages that use the same alphabet. I can see, in a few hundred years, French adobting so much of English, that they could be considered dialects of the same language.

I know a lot of French people are worried about 'Franglais', which is why they make up new french words for stuff like 'Discman', even though every French person says 'Discman'.

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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 14:22
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Quote: "I know a lot of French people are worried about 'Franglais', which is why they make up new french words for stuff like 'Discman', even though every French person says 'Discman'."

Exactly, and that's not only France. But you can't force things like these.

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Sid Sinister
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 14:30
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Math is the universal language
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El Goorf
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 16:28 Edited at: 5th Nov 2006 16:29
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ah yes, well said sinister. so why dont you

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 16:31
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Quote: "Math is the universal language"


Then I'm screwed if everybody start speaking in trigonometry and their times tables...

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Chris K
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 17:26
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I thought football was the universal language?

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Steve J
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 17:35
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I <3 Soccer. Universal indeed.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 17:40
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I don't understand football, they didn't do a good job of teaching it, I mean I don't get how a light nudge can make a play tumble over and break their leg and make them scream in pain, its girly sport if I do say so, not like Rugby, instead you hug big sweaty men grabbing the other guy's ball(s)...Now thats a sport...Oh wait we were talking about language...ahem!

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Steve J
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 17:44
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Rugby sounds inconceivably like American Football

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Chris K
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 18:00
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Except play doesn't stop every five seconds.

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Tinkergirl
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 18:45
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And you don't wear body armour. And ears get ripped off.

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Chris K
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 18:49
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And Wales are good at it (?!).

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 19:10
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And people who play Rugby tend not to be the lunch money stealing jocks American Football has been stereotyped with And anyone who walks into a pub with an Australian Rugby shirt has something to answer for...

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Jeff Miller
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 20:05
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New universal languages have been tried before, and flunked. In the late 50's or early 60's I was imposed upon to learn a bit of Esperanto, which was one of them. It was no more successful in the U.S. then the metric system. Incidentally, although English has tons of irregularites, the one that the forum opened with (go - went) actually isn't one of them. The past tense of "go" has long been forgotten (although the perfect tense "gone" is still around), so English speakers merely use the past tense of "wend" instead, which is "went". "Go" and "went" are two entirely different words.
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Phaelax
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 20:17
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An episode of Stargarte mentioned a true universal language, in the form of a periodic table. Ok, so its more like a universal rosetta stone, but you get the idea.
I think I'm way off topic here.

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Ron Erickson
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 21:04
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Hey...
No knocking American football!

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 23:49
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No knocking American football!"


Okay, can we just knock Americans instead? We English have to think we're better than everyone and mock them, otherwise we're not truly English, its our fault France makes people giggle.

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Steve J
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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 01:43
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Hey WOLF! You live in Pittsburgh?! I love the Steelers!

@Seppuku Arts: Haha, I was a line backer in High School. How dare you give me that stereotype! Too bad America kicks your islands ass

In case English people didn't notice, I was being sarcastic=P I am hoping Seppuku was too.

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 01:53
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Quote: "Too bad America kicks your islands ass"


Least the island looks cool

Your pile of earth doesnt look much like any thing, really.



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Ron Erickson
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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 04:37
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Quote: "Hey WOLF! You live in Pittsburgh?! I love the Steelers!"


Yes. I live in Pittsburgh. I am also a huge Steeler fan! I don't think I've missed a game in about 5 or 6 years.

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Steve J
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 04:12
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=D I live in Washington, so I got my car keyed last year with the super bowl. Nice times=P

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dark coder
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In the andromeda series they had a universal language called 'common' which was english, having a universual language would certainly help when visiting other countries, but eventually the native language would just die out, and of course america and england woulden't want to learn any other language, so they would probably attempt to force every country to speak english .

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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 13:57 Edited at: 8th Nov 2006 13:59
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Quote: "of course america and england woulden't want to learn any other language, so they would probably attempt to force every country to speak english"


I say, Nuke them both!

That bushmen tribe clicking language gets my vote. N!xau

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 17:53
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As always. I think Americans and the French are great, they're great to laugh at...

Quote: "That bushmen tribe clicking language gets my vote"


Definitely, I hope to go and live with them for my gap year, will just avoid those bushman arrows...

But we all know English will be the intergalactic language, I mean we've seen it in all of our least favourite sci fi shows, even Daleks can speak English yet they want to wipe out all humans...amaaaaazing...

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