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Geek Culture / Upscaling device for a TV

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The CodeSmith
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 06:15
I'm going to be purchasing a Nintendo Wii during the next few months, but sadly, it doesn't support any resolution about 480p. Does anyone know of a device that could upscale the image to a higher resolution, like most DVD players do now?

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 06:36
Don't believe that can be done as the Wii will only be rendering at the 480p. In order for it to be increased, Wii has to render it at a higher level.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 06:44
I realize that the Wii only outputs 480p. DVD players output 480p as well, but most of the new DVD players that you can buy these days have an upscaling feature in them that makes the image 720p. Since its not true 720p its not as high quality, but its still better than 480p. What I am looking for is a device that I can plug my Wii into, and then plug the device into the TV, that way it up-converts the image.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 10:08
I dont know where you got the information that DVD players use 480p.

usually the formats are PAL and NTSC. and DVD formats are usually mpeg 2, some newer models can handle div x.

http://www.doom9.org/

perhaps you have a high definition dvd player and thats why you mention this.

here is the structure of a DVD
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvd-structure.htm

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:02
i think there is a gross mis-understanding of current technology in the whole High-Definition 'buzz'.

Televisions that support SCART/RGB input, then you can guarentee that they will support 480p (4:3 720x480@60Hz), 720p (16:9 1280x720@60Hz) and 1080p (16:9 1920x1080@60Hz). Generally speaking only HD-Ready televisions support 480i, 720i and 1080i - but this isn't to say that SCART/RGB doesn't support this; in-fact a number of televisions before HDCP was even concepted support them.

As for the Nintendo Wii itself, unlike the competition their requirement is for developers to support 480p. This doesn't mean it doesn't also support 720p or 1080i resolutions that are the common ones being touted by Sony and Microsoft... in-fact it uses the exact same graphics chip R500 @ 500MHz as the Xbox 360.

The GameCube doesn't have a HDCP, however that console completely supports all of those resolutions. It also automatically detected the best resolution for your TV, and outputs to that. The Wii does the exact same.

So sure it doesn't have HDCP Output, but that doesn't mean it doesn't support these High-Definition resolutions.

People really need to get a bit more informed about this "new" technology. Also, on all Widescreen TVs pixel-scaling is built-in as standard... it isn't required on 4:3 sets, for the simple fact that DVDs and Television Channels output to this normally, and it's only in recent years that 16:9 has also been supported.

Technology is there to make our lives easier so we don't have to worry about all the technical side of things; unfortunately due to most people's removal from the technical side, companies are taking advantage that your adverage person knows nothing about what their TV supports.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 18:56 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 19:01
Nintendo haven't actually announced official support for 480p in European Wiis', so you may be lucky even to get that (you may of course be in the US, but meh).

As for devices, I believe that this http://www.inday.com/rgb4x/rgb4x.htm
will do the trick

EDIT: Well, it appears as of 2/11/06 480 for UK is near-definite, but Nintendo say "we have every intention of supporting 480p and supplying a lead" which is still kinda vague

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