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Geek Culture / scam or no scam?

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AlexI
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:20 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 12:21
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Is this site a scam or not? http://www.oemkub.net Everything is so amazingly cheap!!!

In the FAQ it says:


But still the price is so good, can it be true?
Thanks,
Alex


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Wartorn
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:24
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Sounds like a scam to me... how on earth could they save 1000 dollars on removing the packaging and manual.. Maybe the box was gold plated?
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Richard Davey
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:27
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It's 100% completely and utterly illegal.

I loathe this kind of site. If you are going to pirate some software in the first place and not pay for it (and I doubt there is anyone here, me included, who has never done this), then PLEASE, for the love of all things sane, just download it from a torrent site, and do NOT put money into the hands of people who run sites like this. If the companies who made the software aren't going to get any money from it, then at the very least don't piss on them by giving that money to some other sneaky little git instead.

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adr
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:29 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 12:31
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They're probably reselling software which has been licensed for distribution with new machines.

If I'm a computer manufacturer, and I want to put windows and office on every machine, I shouldn't have to buy 20,000 retail licenses of XP - I get one copy and 20,000 licenses.

It's not a scam - I'm sure you'll get the software, but it will be incorrectly licensed.


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After viewing Rich's post, it seems like my situation is a "best case scenario". His is much more likely.


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Richard Davey
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:46
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adr - even OEM versions are not 'Downloadable' The site offers nothing but downloads, you won't get an OEM CD in the mail. Therefore, it can only be warez.

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AlexI
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:54 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 13:14
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emailed autodesk and adobe asked if it was legal but they didnt reply


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adr
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:56 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 12:56
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Quote: "adr - even OEM versions are not 'Downloadable'"

That did occur to me, but I forgot to put it in. I'm sure software licenses these days enumerate acceptable methods of distribution...


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BatVink
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 13:09
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Quote: "it means that you do not receive a fancy package, a printed manual and license "


you see that bit that says you don't get a license...that's the bit that would make it legal - a license!



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Zappo
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 13:18
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Quick search reveals them on SpamButler and McAfee as a common URL in unsolicited bulk emails (spam):
http://spamvertised.abusebutler.com/whois.php?dom=oemkub.net
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oemkub.com/postid/?p=237282

Their URL has been blacklisted by countless organisations. Anyone who uses unsolicited bulk email is certainly unprofessional and more than likely a scam artist.
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AlexI
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 13:20 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 20:48
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I got that email, thats how I found it




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Zappo
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 13:32
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Ah! Well, that was your first failing then. Following a link in a spam email. This is one of the reasons there is so much spam - people keep opening them and following the links.
Please, please, please, if you receive any more spam do not follow the links. It only takes 1 end user in an entire mass mailing compaign to follow the link and its worth their while to keep spamming. Email is an incredibly cheap (and annoying) way to mass market and one click on an advert can fund thousands of junk mails. Its been reported that spam mails cost the sender $0.00001 - thats one thousand mails for 1 cent.
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PowerSoft
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 19:48
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Please put it in a code box...breaks the scrolling...

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Jeku
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 00:21 Edited at: 8th Nov 2006 00:21
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@!hi! - Congrats on being one of the reasons spam exists. You click on a link in an email, and you give them reason to email it out 10,000 more times.

If it sounds too good to be true, then it IS.

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Bizar Guy
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 02:20 Edited at: 8th Nov 2006 02:20
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2 of every five e-mails I get these days contains a virus.
Luckily, my computer finds basicaly all of them and blocks them before hand.

nearly all my spam at the moment is from people trying to get me to invest in things... I have no idea why, as I've never done anything stock related... ever.


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Dazzag
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 09:17
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Yeah, thats one of those dodgy as hell sites. OEM sites tend to give great savings but not that great! I got AntiVirus and SpySweeper on OEM for a third of their original prices, but we are talking about £20 RRP software here, not £1000. I also got the proper CD's through the post. Picked up the full version of PSP8 (when 9 was the latest) for £10 at the same site (fully boxed and everything) when it sold for £80 brand new in the shops and still got £50 on most sites.

Cheers

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Dave J
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Posted: 8th Nov 2006 13:49
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Quote: "Please put it in a code box...breaks the scrolling..."


Press 'toggle' in the top right corner of his post.


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