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Kenjar
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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 19:36 Edited at: 14th Nov 2006 19:38
Has anyone else purchased Bryce 6 yet? I just bought it from Daz3D for $6 (nope, not a typo, I did mean $6). I did have to sign up as a platium member for $29.99, but considering this software is worth $99 I think it is still a bargan, espically considering they threw in 15 models and a $5 voucher as well. There's other free content that isn't bad, plus a few offers for $1.99. Not bad I feel. It's $7.95 a month after that to maintain the club membership, but you get a $5 voucher every month as well, so as long as you don't mind buying a few $1.99 item every month it's still pretty good value. You get discounts off most things on the site by the look of it.


http://www.daz3d.com/program/bryce/index.php?refid=659259754&b=7


Anyway, does anyone else have Bryce 5 or above? I'm learning to use the software now, and wondering if anyone else in this community is any good with the package, and if they'd post their work with the program on here, I'd like to see what others can do with it!

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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 21:49
Ah yes, I thought nah not worth it...I don't even use my free copy of Bryce 5, but then I've not yet had any scenes that would need Bryce's cheating skills.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 22:15 Edited at: 14th Nov 2006 22:15
Bryce is great used it myself numerous times polys can go to about 5k and still look good just mess around and you'll work it out, hey i don't even know how to make proper textures in it yet

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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 22:45
I wondered what the monthly Platinum Club subscription was, I couldn't find it anywhere.

I haven't taken them up on the offer, but remember it also includes Poser content too.



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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 23:10
I took one month Platinum a few months ago (I believe it's something like $29,90 for the first month) just to get Hex 2.1 for $1.99 (costs $104.30 now). I then decided to also get Carrara 5.1 Standard for a fairly good price that I can't remember exactly what was (something like $129 - costs $249.00 now). That gave my a $30 voucher, which I allowed me to get Mimic 3 Lite pretty much for free.

I am pretty happy with how I fared on that occasion, LOL

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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 23:24
Those who own Bryce 5.5 can get an upgrade to v6 for $39 starting Nov. 21st.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 23:35
Quote: "but remember it also includes Poser content too."


Not Poser, Daz Studio, exactly like Poser, but free and requires you to buy the models you want to posed, although there are freebies to start off with. I mean I could still download all of the crap I got with my subscription when I took their Hexagon offer.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2006 23:51 Edited at: 14th Nov 2006 23:51
Poser as well, their installer allows the victora 3 and Michel 3 base model to be installed directly into poser. They also sell character props that work with poser 5.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 00:14
oh right, cool, didn't know that Mind you, last time I looked at anything it was all 2.0 not 3.0.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 00:16
lol, it's up to version 7 now, which I am saving up for.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 16:15 Edited at: 15th Nov 2006 16:16
Is it just me - or does anyone else find it weird that grown blokes like buying 'clothes' for their virtual Poser ladies, so they can dress them up? and then go and buy different hair styles, lipsticks, make-up, etc.

I'm telling you, the whole 'dress em up' Poser sub-culture is kinda perverted.

I got Bryce 6, and it's ok. The interface, which was quite revolutionary at the time, is REALLY showing its age now and looks crap on a decent big monitor. The render times are still bastardly slow, and you can't really model anything in it - but that isn't what it's for, it's more a graphical playground than anything else - and for that it is really quite fun.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 16:43
Quote: "Is it just me - or does anyone else find it weird that grown blokes like buying 'clothes' for their virtual Poser ladies, so they can dress them up? and then go and buy different hair styles, lipsticks, make-up, etc"


It could be a lot worse, and least it's done on the privacy of your own screen.



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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 17:58
Quote: "Is it just me - or does anyone else find it weird that grown blokes like buying 'clothes' for their virtual Poser ladies, so they can dress them up? and then go and buy different hair styles, lipsticks, make-up, etc.

I'm telling you, the whole 'dress em up' Poser sub-culture is kinda perverted."


It's definately true if the user turns the genitalia on. But from a modelling perspective, (I've been contracted in the past to do book covers and posters), the DAZ content site is very useful. I've purchased clothing props a few times because it was quicker to alter it, do a little retexture work and apply it, saves alot of time. So yes, it's definately a useful tool if you have some dealings with the buisness.

But as with all things, there is likely a somewhat perverted aspect to all this. But upon sayin that it's no worse than what the jap's have been doing for decades. Makes me shudder personally, but it takes all sorts to make a world.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 18:12
daz3d seem to selling moer stuff cheaper now like hexagon 2 and brycle 6 im gonna whatch that website see if any good modelers come cheep ive been forced to model in wings3d since i lost cinema4d

http://www.darkdonkeygraphics.tk

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 18:20 Edited at: 15th Nov 2006 18:29
You could just get GameSpace, for £144, it's not that expensive.

My first rendering with Bryce 6.



Excuse the copywrite and white cross, I've got this earmarked for another project I'm working on.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 19:48 Edited at: 15th Nov 2006 20:04
@Richard - it could be a lot worse! It does have it's beneficial uses, though. The 'Animation Quest' video (DAZ|Studio/Mimic with ?Premiere & AfterEffects?) is an excellent piece of work, as is 'Finnegan'. You have seen William Rimmer's painting 'Evening, Fall of Day' (a depiction of Apollo @ Boston Museum of Fine Arts), right? Technology aside, it's no different to the 'old school' human artforms.

Bryce - I'll wait 'til it's on the ComputerArts freebie disk - like I aquired D-Sculptor!
I think the Daz3D guys have an interesting business model, but they need to up the ante (for '|Studio') on prop creation & 'on-mesh' texturing, now.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2006 22:09
Quote: "Is it just me - or does anyone else find it weird that grown blokes like buying 'clothes' for their virtual Poser ladies, so they can dress them up? and then go and buy different hair styles, lipsticks, make-up, etc.

I'm telling you, the whole 'dress em up' Poser sub-culture is kinda perverted."


Then you haven't seen the Poser community, someone I know posted a link on the 3d world mag forum for a laugh to a poser user's site...it was 3D porn...Poser is generally for those who would have a robot trophy wife if they were in any good existence...So yes perverts with the excuse of 'artistic nudity'.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 00:02
Quote: "Then you haven't seen the Poser community"


Oh I *have* seen it, in much depth, which is why I posted the comment I did The variety of lipstick shades available on Renderosity for example is amazing.

I agree totally about that trophy robot wife comment - that's exactly what I was getting at.

I'm telling you, it's digital dollies for grown-ups who should know better and I bet only a tiny percentage are actual REAL quality digital artists.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 00:11 Edited at: 16th Nov 2006 00:11
Oh I dunno, there's a hell of alot of real CGI art out there. Just because hentai websites exist in cyberspace doesn't mean there aren't alot of people out there who just enjoy plain old anime. It's the same with poser. Some turn the genitalia on, while others turn it off. Either way, at the end of the day for Curious labs (heck of a company name given the subject matter here) as long as they make a profit I'm sure they don't care.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 00:23
I bought poser so i could pose and draw from the pose.
I have successfully exported the bvh files to DBC from poser a long time ago.

Poser is no way on par with one of these if your an illustrator.


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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 00:29
cool, I usually combine the model and animation skelington with milkshape, but it's a very long winded process.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 04:25
Kenjar,
Here is an example done with Bryce 5.5. Almost anything you can think of, you can do.
It's like anything else, you have to learn it inside out to be able
to do decent work.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 11:16
Freaky.

But yes I know what you mean, everything takes time to learn I'm not afraid of doing so either. There's a bunch of video tutorials on the net for bryce 5, I'll look over them at some point. Still for a first scene I don't think the other I put up as too bad.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 13:24
No. Your work is fine. Just like photography, lighting
and composition is everything, except in Bryce you can
apply textures as well.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2006 13:57
Quote: "The variety of lipstick shades available on Renderosity "


Renderosity are the biggest culprits...

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Posted: 17th Nov 2006 01:32
I use Vue 5. A much more effective tool in scene design. It has a version that is "Basic" but still beats Bryce into the ground. Screenshot of what I did completely in Vue

http://phoenixophelia.com

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Another Shot( Of a cool scene )
Vue 5 is much better at animation, and the Interface is very easy to handle.

http://phoenixophelia.com

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Posted: 17th Nov 2006 16:04
I've looked at vue before, to be honest I would never have purchased Bryce if is wasn't so cheap.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2006 02:48 Edited at: 18th Nov 2006 02:55
Nope didn't get it. Waste of money as far as I'm concerned. I've still got Corel Bryce version 5 and comparing Bryce 5 & Bryce 6 I'm even wondering why they call it Bryce 6 at all?

The application is so out of date compared to the others around, that I'm wondering why DAZ is even putting the effort into it. It's never going to catch up. It's been owned by DAZ for almost 2 years now and they've hardly added anything to it, at the rate they're going I suggest they better put their time, effort and finances into something else.

Quote: "Is it just me - or does anyone else find it weird that grown blokes like buying 'clothes' for their virtual Poser ladies, so they can dress them up? and then go and buy different hair styles, lipsticks, make-up, etc.

I'm telling you, the whole 'dress em up' Poser sub-culture is kinda perverted."


Yes they are. I'm a Poser user, but at times I'm ashamed to tell people I am. Not because of what I'm using it for myself, but because of the perversion that others use it for.

I'm using it mainly for my comics and sometimes for games/game screens. I used to draw my comics by hand, but Poser is so much more time effecient. Also there is still some content for Poser around, that isn't perverted, but pretty cool.

Poser is a great tool, but the users aren't that great. Trying to avoid them as much as possible.

Still Poser can be used for some cool stuff as well:

http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/dragonmania_product_23817
http://www.gamefun4u.nl/page11.html

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Posted: 19th Nov 2006 17:25 Edited at: 19th Nov 2006 18:25
Oh I dunno.



It renders some nice quaility images, and now I'm getting deeper into the matrial and terrain generation I can see it's certainly got some nice features. I personlly would refere a 3D Studio MAX style 4 window interface, as its easier to model in it, but bryces compatibility with Poser, mimic, and numerous other programs both natively and via DAZ Studio, isn't to be laughted at. You can create some pretty good special effects as well, bullet trails, halo's, lighting, rings, etc. And as seen from the image, it's pretty easy for a newbie to get into it. My scenes might not be totally brilliant, but for someone who's been using it for less than a week, it's not a bad result at all.

The robot was animated with Poser, as was the man at the top controlling it. It was then directly imported into bryce and the animation plays well. Sorry about the nasty texture right in the front, like I say I'm still learning it's matrial and terrain editing.

Still you won't need to worry for long, the $6 offer ends in a couple of days.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2006 18:21
Kenjar nice work with the terrain in that pic but please please link to it it's stretching the page by a mile and a half

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I reduced the resolution by half.

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