Yes, I did start it I suppose, because it appeared I was being penalized for saying I didn't like mac (I thought that was the reason this was marked as flamebait). So I made it clear that I wasn't trying to start any flaming and even edited the first post to try and stop it. That's Why I was so annoyed that AlanC kept it up. But again, I didn't intend this to be about comps. It annoys me that trying to clear that up actually made people flame about it.
...But anyways, IGN has just
reviewed the Zune, and they seem to think that overall it's better than the ipod, but I suggest reading the full review. They don't seem to mention any other types of mp3 players in the review, probably because Zune is specifically targeted at the ipod.
I wont be getting one though, as good as it looks. I just recently changed my phone, and decided to get the chocolate. It's not they best mp3 player, but with a two gig sd card I can get it to hold ten times the amount of songs I currently want it to, and it's fairly decent. The fact that it combines phone and music player means I'll be carrying less, which in the end is what I want.