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MoonSon
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I have only been able to get bmp textures to work on 3ds models when importing them into DB. If i use any other texture format DB will not display the texture on the model. Yet DB does support other formats when importing textures directly in to the game, it just doesnt work with 3ds models.

Does anyone know how to get other formats such as jpgs to work with 3ds models? Is this a DB problem or a 3D studio Max one?

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hexGEAR
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had this same problem too, if your 3D object uses just 1 texture why don't u try loading the 3D object, loading the texture and using the texture object command! it might work any suggestions anybody?

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Danmatsuma
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If you mean .jpg textures you've applied in max then make sure they're under 8 characters long and also make sure it's in the same directory as your project, it works fine for me but I'm using db1.13/enhanced.

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MoonSon
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hmmmm, im sure i did all that, but i'll have another go incase i missed something. My version is db1.13 as well but dont know about the enhanced bit?

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Have you considered .dds textures? - very nicely compact, perfect for .X models.

I made a custom version of TexConv that lets you replace the textures in any .X model with any texture you like. Maybe you should convert to .X and work that way.

As an example, a 200k image can go as low as 33k, with no loss of quality.

You can pick up the custom TexConv over at RGT, look in the tools forum.


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I struggled until I dropped the filename to 8 characters, then it all worked fine.

DB lets you run the LOAD TEXTURE command on jpegs with long filenames, but when you try to use the texture, it says it doesn't exist.

If anyone has more info on dds textures, I'd love to know more. One thing I have noticed is that they don't seem as clear as the 3DS bmp textures on the DarkMatter CD.

Thanks in advance.
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MoonSon
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ok i found out that the reason why my jpgs were not working is simply because i had a capital letter in the file name! So looks like jpg files need to be less than 8 characters long but also in lowercase.

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ok i was wrong, for some reason it was still loading up my bmp file, DOH! Now im confused and back to square one.

I dont have any software to texture x models so i want to stick with 3ds models.

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re-export the .3ds after reloading the .jpg texture in max, I've tested this and believe me .jpgs do work fine on .3ds models in db1.13/enhanced, if it's an issue with pro I can't help though

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I have exactly the same version as you and i tried what you suggested, but still only bmps work. If i load up the model in 3d max, the jpg texture is there, but in db it seems to only look for bmps.

I cant understand why its working for you??? Do you know what save settings you did for your jpg files?

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Hmm, I think maybe mine was loading a bitmap of the same name too, I made a new file in a seperate directory specifically to test this and it imported to db untextured, like you say.

Here's the solution anyhow, it's only two extra lines of code:


Why not just use a bitmap anyway? jpg compression will seriously mess with any transparencies you might want, as it introduces artifacts at the transitions between 2 colors. VanB's suggestion is a good one also, would load faster as an .x file

Basically though, a bitmap is the most "honest" way to store an image, there is no compression, and the file is organised just like a chunk of memory, it will compress in a rar/zip file, down to about the size of a .jpg if you're worried about distribution

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ok i'll look into it, thanks for your help!

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