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Geek Culture / ARGHHH - My most ridiculouse bad beat ever!

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bob marley
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2006 17:10 Edited at: 4th Dec 2006 02:05
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I am so gutted i just lost a monster hand in a monster toruny at the most vital [MODEDIT swearing with aster-ix] time, its a [ModEdit] joke, heres what happened...

on this site you get action points when you play poker, and for 2000 action points you can enter a multi table where the winner is enterd in to a $50,000 tourny, i enterd this, and placed high enough to win aseat to this tourny...
the payout was paid to 18 places:
1st $16,000.00
18th $900

as you can see, 18th Place is still massive

i was on a large stack when it got down to 20 people, all i wanted was cr*p hands so i could fold everything, then on big blind i get dealt pocket aces, small blind raises it large, i decided to limp and see a flop...
my hand: A A
flop: 9c Ad 9h
A great flop, but whats this, he has pushed all in!
i call, and he is holding a pathetic pair of pocket 2's, ([Mod Edit]!)
BUT...
the turn was a 2, and the river was the final 2..., i couldnt belive this it was so ridiculouse, i am so vexed right now i cant explain it, this is a fakin crime

for the people who couldt be botherd to read that, here is the ridiculouse hand:

me : AA
idiot : 22
board : 9A922

i feel like crying , $900 minimum i woudl of won if i had just not been dealt aces, or that moron had half a clue about poker, makes me sick
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Jeez man, that's awful. At least you were knocked out by something spectacular though


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2006 19:36
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Quote: "or that moron had half a clue about poker, makes me sick"

Well you do have to remember that it's mainly about luck.

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Well did you still survive to 18th if you were large you still could have folded into 18th or better.

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Posted: 3rd Dec 2006 22:56
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It's not about playing your cards, but the cards of the person opposite...

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bob marley
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2006 22:58
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he had slightly more than me, we were all in on the flop.
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Posted: 3rd Dec 2006 23:42
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if you called his all-in, and he won, and you still had chips, how did you get eliminated that hand? or am I missing something?

also, AA off the deal is nothing more than a pair, albeit a high pair with a good %, but still, its a pair. people tend to see aces and their eyes go all wiggly like "imma win, imma win!" Its a common misconception to give such high power to pocket aces, but I would have done the same as you, lol. just not sure how you got eliminated that hand.

sorry



Its 9/11 - but its FAKE 9/11 Ts=SQRT(Df/16)
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Quote: "if you called his all-in, and he won, and you still had chips, how did you get eliminated that hand? or am I missing something?

also, AA off the deal is nothing more than a pair, albeit a high pair with a good %, but still, its a pair. people tend to see aces and their eyes go all wiggly like "imma win, imma win!" Its a common misconception to give such high power to pocket aces, but I would have done the same as you, lol. just not sure how you got eliminated that hand.

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he had more than me, when i say called his all in, i mean i called all my chips in, and you are very right that aces are really not a mega strong hand preflop, but pocket aces when the flop is 9A9, and your up against 2's is a very strong hand, a very very strong one, one that shouldnt lose and has got the lowest chance of winning ever because he needs thoses 2 exact cards on the turn and river, amazing
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hey bob, this is the last time i mention swearing with aster-ix is against AUP.
If your already noob slapped a ban is the last resort.

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Posted: 4th Dec 2006 02:03 Edited at: 4th Dec 2006 02:04
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Quote: "he had more than me, when i say called his all in, i mean i called all my chips in"

ah ok. forgive me, my brain is in slo-mo today

Quote: "pocket aces when the flop is 9A9"

agreed, full house off the flop. like I said, I would have played it out as well

Quote: "and your up against 2's is a very strong hand, a very very strong one, one that shouldnt lose and has got the lowest chance of winning ever because he needs thoses 2 exact cards on the turn and river, amazing"

yes and no, but I see your point. At the time, you dont know he has pocket two's. Thats why there's poker, then there's lucky.

Just another full boat that got sunk on the river. Sorry mate You played it perfectly, nothing else that could have been done.



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Posted: 4th Dec 2006 02:07 Edited at: 4th Dec 2006 02:11
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Well, a full house and four of a kind on the same hand seems a little suspicious. I've seen great combinations before, but not like that. Maybe it was rigged and he was some kind of evil poker-bot. That, my friend, is why I don't play online.

Not to mention, even if it's not rigged, the laws of probability are different because it's on a computer. It's never truly random, and never truly secure.

That being said, you played it well. Full house doesn't normally get beaten. I'd have called.


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maybe he was...
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Bluffing

although even with a 9 A 9 i'd have to think twice before i did

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Posted: 4th Dec 2006 02:51 Edited at: 4th Dec 2006 02:57
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Well, he wasn't bluffing. He had 2 pair on the flop, 9922, Ace high. Not a great hand, certainly not good enough to go all in on, but still good.

The reason I'd never go all in on that hand is because if the other guy had either a 9 or an A, I'd be screwed. Or for that matter, any pocket pair higher than 22. It was a dumb and illogical decision, which leads me to believe it was set up.


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If you watch alot of poker, or play alot you will notice one thing. The good players almost never have to show their cards. Its like a lawsuit you want them to settle and leave before the verdict comes down.

As for hand combinations Holdem is alot diffrent then 5 card. In real life I have seen 2 people with straight flush and seen a FH go down to four of a kind several times.

As for his bet he may have been hoping you thought he had a 9, with you limping in he may have read you as having a weak hand and that you would likely fold.

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I think this particular hand is being way "over thought". The other guy had a crap hand (pocket 2's) and decided to play it, to see if he could get lucky - and he did. With a 2 on the turn, and a 2 on the river.... plain as that.

do that 1000 times, it'll come up only a handful of times, literally



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Quote: "do that 1000 times, it'll come up only a handful of times, literally"

Exactly my point. Not a smart play. In the long run playing like that will just cause you to lose.


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argh man, thats the pits. luck of the draw though, eh? there'll be other tourneys in the future good luck with those and getting your money back, hahaha


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Quote: "Exactly my point. Not a smart play. In the long run playing like that will just cause you to lose."


Can't call it a bad play without knowing all the details. If after his initial bet most of the table folded and only bob is left, and from this statement

Quote: "i was on a large stack when it got down to 20 people, all i wanted was cr*p hands so i could fold everything"


I assume he was playing very tight prior to this hand. Heads up any pair is a solid hand and two pair is pretty damn good so pushing all in if he has more than bob, and bob has been playing tight is a solid move. Granted he walked into some real trouble and only the 2 twos or 2 nines could have saved him, but it does happen. Remember watching Doyle Brunson fold a pair of sixes twice in a tourney (it was on tv) and both times he would have had 4 of a kind. I know I have folded 4 of a kind several times you just can't count on 2 or 3 more coming up on the board but it happens.

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My wife got knocked out of the last game we were in because her full house got beaten by a slightly bigger full house.

It was a risky hand from the start, which is why I didn't play it through. There was a pair on the flop, and two pair on the turn. She had the lowest full house combination. At that point, what can you do but play it? However, it is very likely to get beat.


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Quote: "Maybe it was rigged and he was some kind of evil poker-bot. "


That's not how poker bots work. A poker bot would play the game for you while you're not there, on the client-side. They don't interfere with the system

I remember playing Texas Hold 'Em on Xbox Live and I got dealt pocket aces. I went all-in, right off the bat, and somebody else called me (this was the very first hand and we all had the same chips). Turns out he had pocket queens, and there was another queen on the flop. Damn.

I'm *never* doing that impulse move again.

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Bad beats are a part of poker. Deal with them, don't turn into Phil Hellmuth jr.




Im STILL waiting for a bad beat story we haven't heard

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Quote: "Im STILL waiting for a bad beat story we haven't heard "

ok, lol, i was at my mates house playing a tourny, and when it got down to heads up i had Ak, and my mate had AQ, we bothe ernded up all in and wee confused to see two ace of spades!, the whole game was void by vote
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I like poker!!!! No sorry, that's poking, I like poking, poking people is fun...

Actually blackjack is my game, although I haven't play for so long I can't remember what the commands are called and why when I say blackjack, people tell me off and say its Pontoon...

Hard luck on the loss, but its all luck, hence its gambling, anything can happen unless you cheat, but if you cheat the out come could be worse than loser (beside those who cheat games who are played with other people are themselves big losers.) But I don't really gamble, under age really, so the only gambling I've done is the slots (got £11 profit from one of those) and 'fake Blackjack.'

If I were to gamble, I'd go for something stupid, like walk up to some massive well built bouncer and say, 'I bet you a £1000 that you cannot beat the crap out of me'

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Damn that sucks....can only think he was trying to bluff that he had the AA lol.

I think AA is over rated ...if there's no A on the table you've not got much.

I've lost out to 4 of a kind when holding a full house twice I think. It sucks. Worst loss I've had was losing out with an ace high flush....to a straight flush

I am slightly wary about the randomness of online poker...although I think the reason people see more 'unlikely' hands is because online play is a lot quicker and you see a lot more hands than if you were playing live....

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