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flashing snall
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 00:35
I was just looking at KiethC's retexturing/complete make over of the colt 45, and i got wondering if you could get the crossair to move around ingame, causing your shots to be able to bend.... kinda a wierd thought, just wondering.. Like, if you shot, and then the crossair moves ( i know the crossair doesnt predict were the shot goes, just a hud) making the shot move while after its been fired, but before it hits...


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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 01:32
Quote: "I was just looking at KiethC's retexturing/complete make over of the colt 45"


I thought that it was Fred.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 02:06
Quote: "and then the crossair moves making the shot move while after its been fired, but before it hits..."


have you ever seen anything like that in real life? able to control a bullet's tragectory after being fired??

but if you mean something like a homing missile, I think it will home in on a live target (or something you have already locked on BEFORE firing).

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 02:11
I think someone has been reading about that PS3 title where you can shoot around walls. thing is that FPSC doesn't model actual bullets, it just raycasts them, so chaning their trajectory after firing isn't really possible

and yeah, it was Fredp

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 03:11
Quote: "I think someone has been reading about that PS3 title where you can shoot around walls."


Or they played the latest Xbox Ghost Recon and discovered a certain scope.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 03:18
Quote: "have you ever seen anything like that in real life? able to control a bullet's tragectory after being fired??"


on some science show i saw a gun that guided bullets with a laser.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 03:33
Thats nothing , I have a slingshot that shoots rocks.
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 04:19
Ooo! My alien ray gun can do that! I just keep guiding it into the 'TV' as you humans call it

Anyways, I don't think that idea is possible even with projectiles - forgive me if I'm wrong.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 06:18
Quote: "on some science show i saw a gun that guided bullets with a laser."


Actually those were probably missiles.
A missile produces its own thrust and can therefore manipulate its trajectory.
A bullet is a simple projectile that has no way to alter its own direction other than wind deflection.

This is arguable though, since traditional definitions include bullets as missiles.
However, most of those definitions were made before the advent of rocket propulsion.

In my world though, a bullet does not produce its own momentum.
The cartridge has the powder but that stays in the chamber of the weapon.
The bullet itself is just a hunk of metal.

Missiles were first guided by lasers in the 1980's during Reagans administration.
The budget was for the "Star Wars" program, which supposedly would destroy nuclear weapons in route via a laser shot from a satellite.
Gotta love the cold war.
In actuality it was a front for a plane that could shoot them down using a laser tracking device that was in the nose, but all of that was top secret. The plane used 3 lasers, 1 for detection, 1 for tracking, and one for penetrating the missile's hull.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 06:27
Quote: "The budget was for the "Star Wars" program, which supposedly would destroy nuclear weapons in route via a laser shot from a satellite."


It actually isn't that hard to make... give me a few TeraWatts and it will happen. The general idea is to create a hot enough point on the missile so that it melts... how it explodes is upto someother guys.

But why are we still messing with visible light lasers? I want Gamma Ray Lasers.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 06:34
Quote: "Actually those were probably missiles."


no, they were seriously bullets, they were creating systems to create defenses for cities and use bullets to take down bullets.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 07:02
Quote: "But why are we still messing with visible light lasers? I want Gamma Ray Lasers."


I got wind recently of a secret project for a new weapon that can fry people in a targeted room. Sorta like turning that room into a microwave oven. This weapon is supposedly deployed from afar, so how they pinpoint the focal point of the energy is probably the current setback.

As for the gamma rays, its a wonder they haven't done it already...or have they.
The highest form of light energy had to have been explored in this area (warfare).
The lack of any mention of current weapons lends me to believe that they already are developed, but are still a secret.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 07:26
Quote: "no, they were seriously bullets, they were creating systems to create defenses for cities and use bullets to take down bullets."


Education for the Gulible 101.

Impossible. Purely impossible.

First up is the bullet 'locator' something that small going that fast is very hard to track, it doesn't even show up on regular high speed camera, you have to get a very fast electronic camera just to see it blur on by. (The famous bullet through an apple is a shutter shot, not digital.)

Second, so you have a system that can track and locate before a bullet reaches its target (which is VERY quickly). It is Physically impossible to move a counter gun fast enough to do a direct headbutt on the bullet... so you have to bash it away from it, but the precision inwhich you have to shoot, let alone the other variables, is impossible to predict, even for a computer, as the mechanical aspect would also lead to inaccuracys.

Third, even after all of that... even if the bullet hits exactally on target, there are easier, better systems used in bullet deflection.,

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 07:43
Quote: "Third, even after all of that... even if the bullet hits exactally on target, there are easier, better systems used in bullet deflection.,"


it didn't have to hit exactly on target, it exploded right next to it, knocking it off course.

but, what does discovery channel know anyhow.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 08:17
Sonic weaponry
Sonic and ultrasonic weapons (USW) are weapons of various types that use sound to injure, incapacitate, or kill an opponent. Some sonic weapons are currently in limited use or in research and development by military and police forces. Others exist only in the realm of science fiction.

Some of these weapons have been described as sonic bullets, sonic grenades, sonic mines, or sonic cannons. Some make a focused beam of sound or ultrasound; some make an area field of sound.

Although many real sonic and ultrasonic weapons are described as "non-lethal", they can still kill under certain conditions, so the term "less-lethal" has been suggested for the sake of accuracy.
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 09:57 Edited at: 5th Dec 2006 09:58
I decided to have a little rant because I am smarter then the DoD... or they just don't release the obvious to the public.

Bullets, as we know them, are what idiots use because they are... well... idiots.

Fireing a rotating 'pin' which has a pressure sensitive tip, which, in turn, releases 'wings' which, due to the rotation, will cause massive bodily dammage, is better then using bullets. Infact, this would easily penetrate bullet proof armor as those work on the principle of a bullet having a large surface area.

As I see it, the main problem is construction of such a bullet, and setting the barrel and bullet propperly so that it would spin on fireing. But that can easily be calculated and/or corrected.

This design has even more superior aspects then standard weaponry. You would need LESS gunpower to fire the bullet as the smaller mass and surface area facilitates penetration, and you could store more of these bullets in a clip then nine mil's.


Either our technology is seriously lacking, or we just don't disclose what we can do to the public.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 11:11
He was so full of himself he could not reach the sky.
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 13:38
Quote: "don't think that idea is possible even with projectiles - forgive me if I'm wrong."
ingame it was even in HL1, so it's possible.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 15:29
Quote: "Impossible. Purely impossible. "


How many times have I heard that. I have a set of encyclopedias at my parents home that says it is impossible to go to the moon because it would take too many lifetimes. There is a picture of an airplane flying toward the moon. The encyclopedia dates in the 50's.

I read just the other day that someone at Berkley has developed a cloaking device which bends visual light around an object making it nearly invisible. It's just a matter of time.

Nothing is impossible. You just don't know how to do it.

The forum provides a means to hide our true identity. Too bad we always screw up and let it be seen.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 16:26
Quote: "I want Gamma Ray Lasers."


All you'd end up with there is a cannon that fires Incredible Hulks. And I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Except maybe Spiderman.
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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 19:44 Edited at: 5th Dec 2006 19:49
Lot's of directed energy weapons around these days...my personal favourite is the electrolaser LIPC. It fires 'lightening'-it uses low power laser diodes to charge the air in front of the weapon making it a plasma-it then passes an electrical current down this channel to create a stream of lightening. XADS are currently designing various forms, including a rifle unit with a range of about 16 feet. Also, the weapon wouldn't have to kill anyone-just knock them out, but of course you could kill someone with it. However, they would be valued in police and hostage rescue forces, so they don't have to worry about shooting the hostage and killing them/be able to aprehend subjects easily without lethal force. Whoa...did I just type that...

Oh, and well said xplosys. Just take a look at the technology, and realise just how unbelevable it would be if someone told you say, in the middle ages, that we would achieve all the things we have now-

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 20:23 Edited at: 5th Dec 2006 20:29
Quote: "As I see it, the main problem is construction of such a bullet, and setting the barrel and bullet propperly so that it would spin on fireing. But that can easily be calculated and/or corrected."

I am suprised at you, talking about firing.
Make a cannon why don't you.
'Firing' projectiles with explosions is old technology, so I expected more from you.

The pin idea penetrating the armor is interesting. I see the main problem in its physical strenth.
Certainly not lead or copper or other inexpensive materials would have the strength required if reduced to that size.
Still a facinating concept though.

Back to 'firing' it.
What about another form of propulsion? No, not compressed air.
I was thinking maybe electromagetic forces of a like charge for repulsion.
The large amounts of energy needed might foil this plan, but it might not take alot since its so small.
The pin being metalic would mean that it could be easily magnetized.

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Posted: 5th Dec 2006 21:02
wow, all i wanted to know was if it could be done... I thought that the bullets might not be real. I no, i have never seen that, but i did simulate it in darkbasic... very fun, ripping other characters to shreads!!! te he.


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