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Geek Culture / Are you Getting-Windows-Vista

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bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 00:31 Edited at: 8th Dec 2006 03:17
I just wanted to know if any of you are getting windows vista
and talk about if your getting knew computers or upgrading your
computer ect.
I know ill be moving to Vista probally in about a year but when
I move Im going big I plan to get this computer http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Area-51_7500/Area-51_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-AREA51-7500-R4&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT
+Windows Vista Ultimate+FPSCX10+DarkbasicX10.
Please post more about Windows Vista!!!!!
bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 00:36
Ill have a Next Generation computer that I can make and play games
for.
FredP
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 00:53
I am moving this to the Geek Culture forum.

jasonhtml
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 01:30
ya, by the time vista comes out, ill be finishing up building my own pc and ill get vista for it. ill probably get premium, as ultimate has some features that i really dont need for an extra $100...


forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=78971&b=8&p=0
forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=91115&b=32
bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 01:44
Maybe But Ima gamer\Developer.
I play 360,PS2 And PC.
Im sure most of us are.
The reason Im getting Vista is Games,360 Compatibility
and of course Game developement.
Like someone said
Quote: ""Windows Vista
is Truly going to be worth the cost ""
Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 02:19
I will wait till I decide to buy a new PC for 2 reasons, Why the heck pay for an OS when I can get it for free, and I personally usually find the OS versions that come with a PC and are tweaked for it have less problems then an out of the box install.

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bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 03:13 Edited at: 8th Dec 2006 03:16
I mean you guys like Darkbasic and fpscreator
So imagine them in next-gen
If youre a good 3D modeler this would be good
I mean imagine if some of your games looked as
good as games on xbox360 wouldnt it be cool to
see your games on pc best seller list.
1# My game
2# Halflife
3# World of warcraft
Quote: "Ive never realy played world of warcraft but i heard it was very good ."

People say these are top pc games now what if people played
your games just as much as these,it is going to cost but if it sell
then its worth it.
I think if you have the programming and 3D modeling skills then you can make some good games.
you can make it happen.
Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 03:16
Quote: "1# My game
2# Halflife
3# World of warcraft"


Its not the tools you have its how you use them. neither of the other games you just listed used DX 10 and having DX10 will not make your games compare to them any better if you can't produce a good product to begin with.

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bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 03:37 Edited at: 8th Dec 2006 03:38
I know that those games dont use direct-X 10.
I know its going to take take alot of work and that the tools
wont magically do the work for you.
Look at these screen shots of DX10
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?s=b614278270fb1933714678ae1f1faa95&p=1010840&postcount=1
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=447230
You are right the tools are not going to magically help
you, stuff this good is going to take lots and lots of talent, skill,time and effort.
and like I said good programming and modeling skill.
Bizar Guy
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 04:02 Edited at: 8th Dec 2006 04:12
Of course I'll be getting vista... not getting vista would seriously limit myself, as Microsoft forces you to get it in order to use direct x 10. It looks like a really good os, but I honestly don't think any os should cost as much as Vista does. That's why I'm so glad I wont be paying for it (well not very much).

My parents are Microsoft partners, so they get huge discounts on all things Microsoft, and a large number of things free from them as well. So I'll be getting it through them.

Quote: "Maybe But Ima gamerDeveloper."

So is every person who's responded to this...

And Hobgoblin Lord is right. Say I make a game in dbpro in dx9 that looks close to next gen (entirely possibly and actually being done by some people), and you make one in dbpro in dx10 that you only put half as much effort into. It won't matter that dx10 is better, because I spent more time on mine and it will look twice as good, and play twice as well at least. After all, dx10 will not improve your gameplay mechanics. It will most likely be a while before it's obvious which dbpro games were built around dx10 and which about dx9. With fpsc though, it WILL make a huge diff immediately, as was seen in the newsletter.

dx10 is awesome still, but that doesn't mean it will make your game better than hl2 or wow.

Quote: "I think if you have the programming and 3D modeling skills then you can make some good games."

Yes, just look around the forums at some of the truly awesome titles here. Notice they don't require dx10 to be good...

I'm just saying that unlike adding Cinnamon to your food, dx10 will not automatically make our games awesome.

Edit: I had this open a bit before I responded, and there was your post! Meh.

Still, even with modeling and programing skills you still need to be creative enough to make an interesting game, and when it comes down to it, there are a small number of games still being made in dbc that are more interesting and more fun than some of the best looking bdpro games.

bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 04:19
If you read the part where I said "ima gamer\gamedeveloper"
good, you would have seen the part where I said
Quote: "" Im sure most of us are" "
ESP
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 14:58
Hi bmxx132,

You plan to get Vista and a 'specific' new PC in a year? Or is that just next year? Why would you want to buy a PC that is a year old???

Robin
bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 16:02
Im looking at that pc if I buy early 2007.
If I buy A year or later then ill get another pc or ill
build one.
That way I could make it the I wanted to.
bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 16:46 Edited at: 8th Dec 2006 16:48
It depends how much $$$
JerBil
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 19:22
Remember other manufacturers will have lower cost systems using
the same mobo.
In this case you're paying a premium for looks.

Ad Astra Per Asper
bmxx132
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 19:41
I havent looked at a lot of systems.
And I dont care about the looks I just want the Harware.
Jeku
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 21:56
It's not the tools, it's the skillset.

Somebody with the Unreal 3 engine is not necessarily going to make the next Gears of War.

El Goorf
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Posted: 8th Dec 2006 22:54
im getting vista

not through choice

but because its the only way i'll be able to play next-gen games.
bmxx132
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Posted: 9th Dec 2006 00:35
Yeah I know,Im gettin it for directx10.
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Posted: 9th Dec 2006 23:02
Already got it

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