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indi
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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 06:54
if you own one, this site is a must.

http://www.wiidamage.com

especially this image



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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:07 Edited at: 12th Dec 2006 07:11
Wait a minute I went to the site now I understnad!
Sorry about that!


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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:10
the website if you read, describes how the the wrist strap breaks easily and what becomes of it.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:19
There is also www.wiihaveaproblem.com thats also a funny one.
People who fling their arms around at thirty miles an hour should
not be allowed around a Wii.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:21
the wrist strap was a late safety addition anyway, because nintendo were worried about controllers flying out of childrens hands... the reason they're not designed to take the full force of an adult swinging around like a retarded lunatic is because they believed that adults would have more freaking sense.

lol show's what the japanese know about the english-speaking adult population eh?

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:23
hehe extreme bowling, check out the game thats on the screen at the time.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 07:30
yeah i saw that, and the instructions that are showing how to aim.
question is though how sodding rough are these people playing on their consoles?

the one i've had a chance to play on (plan on getting one just after christmas) honestly didn't require too much effort to do anything. some of the damage i scoped out on that website (particularly the IGN one) you really need to have thrown something pretty ****ing hard to cause that much damage.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 08:06
Some nerd probably taped a knife to his controller so he would feel like he was actually killing stuff.


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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 08:45
People are so retarded. Is it really that hard to hold a wiimote?

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 09:05
No, it's not. I reckon a big chunk of those are fake, especially the one indi posted. There's no *way* a wii-mote would get lodged in a TV like that. What is the tv made of--- styrofoam?!

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Quote: "the reason they're not designed to take the full force of an adult swinging around like a retarded lunatic is because they believed that adults would have more freaking sense."


That is a mistake that a lot of people have made in the past.
Is the strap removable in case I ever get a wii?
It looks like it would be more of an annoyance than a help.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 11:54 Edited at: 12th Dec 2006 11:57
Obviously muppets, without opposable thumbs. Notice on that impailed Wii mote pic, the massive chunk out of the TV stand, I suppose that could have been the stylus from his DS.

I find the wiimote very comfortable, esp with Zelda it's a laid back sort of deal, you only have to aim at the screen when you need to aim, the rest of the time you can just slouch. Playing Wii Sports might be a lot more animated, but I'm not sure I believe that they could damage TV's, these things are not exactly house bricks, they're snug in your hand and the very design would make it highly unusual for it to slip out of your fingers when playing baseball or bowling.

Thing is, if this is for real, then imagine if they made an olympics game, javelin motes sticking out of foreheads, people using the safety cord to help with the hammer throw, or accidently strangling their children in the swimming events. If you can't handle the Wii mote, then give it to someone who can, like your grandma . A guy I share an office with wants one, never bought a games console or even played a videogame in his life, yet he wants a Wii to play the golf game on, he's 62.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 17:39
Like many who have said this i will say only people who swing with all their strength, so prehaps if someone gets annoyed with the Wii should take a break until they are not annoyed and if a game requires swinging hard then stay away, is that too hard?

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Posted: 12th Dec 2006 20:10
That one indi posted is so photoshoped. A) the angle of the reflection is wrong, b) the reflection itself is diffrent from the remote (take a close look), C) no way that remote pierced that TV like that, the remote would shatter long before it did that. As for some of the others I believe broken lights and glasses are quite possible hell I can do that without swinging a remote around.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 01:18
Quote: "Is the strap removable in case I ever get a wii?
It looks like it would be more of an annoyance than a help"


Yes... I haven't used mine and as yet I haven't managed to smash anything yet... I find I can do better in baseball and bowling with a little flick of the wrist rather than a full blown swing of the arm

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 01:32
With over ten years of photoshop under my belt, the artist did a wicked job if it is fake.

I wouldnt know either way unless i had some proof, that said the only component I would have trouble with is the density of the televisions casing being quite rigid around that area, however stranger things have happened in real life.

The shadow and luminosity of the Wii on the shell of the tv would have been missed, the white reflection near to the right of the incursion is a nice touch if its been faked.

The televisions reflection of the Wii within the screen would produce negative spots or darker spots from the angle its taken at. hence the cameras reading from within a CRT.

funny how you share something you thought funny and people in this forum think its fake or take roads that its a conspiracy. heh *shrugs*.

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From everything that I have read,heard or seen about the remote they have said to use smaller,flick of the wrist type motions when using it.
If you try to imitate the actual movement it will overcompensate and screw up what you are trying to do.
Or at least that is what I have been led to believe.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 01:41
Like a few people have said, you have to be one bad arse retard to throw a wii remote that hard into some thing to break it.

The people who have made up the damage stories are retards in their own, because it takes common sense to know you cant throw a remote at a tv and make a hole in the side, its just a dumb story to tell.

I cant see why you would let go of the remote either, unless you just dunked your hands in a bucket of grease.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 01:48
yeah perhaps it is over dramatized, it really doesnt bother me which way it leads.
I heard about this site on the radio and thought it was funny.

I have however seen the worst of people who play and lose video games, throw massive tatas, like nothing before. Working in an arcade parlour as a kid, Ive seen some wicked machine abuse.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 01:54
You would be amazed at some of the inventive ways I have found to break things.
When you are really upset or (as in my case) accident prone anything is possible.
I'm thinking if I just spent all that money on a wii and I get that irritated I am going to gently set down the remote and find something cheaper to break.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 04:53
The one about hitting the dog is funny.




Quote: "Working in an arcade parlour as a kid"


never worked in an arcade, but probably spent too much time in them anyways. I discovered the freeplay switches on the back (which the managers get mad if you turn them on), and that you can tilt those coin pushing machines a little bit without turning tilt on. you can alos smack the machines in the back without triggering tilt.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 10:09
That's not Photoshopped. But I would guess that from the huge gouge in the table, the TV has been broken by something heavy that then hit the desk. The guy has then been able to put the Wiimote in the hole and take a piccy.

Try throwing a normal remote at something plastic, if you do manage to break it, it will still bounce back.



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Looks pretty real to me.


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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 14:45
yup. pfft photoshop'd my shiney metal ass

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I don't think anyone thought it was faked as in Photoshop-ed (did they?), I think they thought it was fake in that he deliberately punched a hole in his telly with a hammer, then put his Wiimote in there, to make himself a Web Celebrity...

I think it is real, though.

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Yeah the pictures are real, but I reckon the hole was already in the tv and they just stuck the remote in.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 18:19
^^^

What he said. And then there are pictures going around where people have bruised their eyes--- many of them *do* look photoshopped

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 19:04
I'd love to see that guy do the same with the TV my brother uses atm, it's a fairly old set from like 1980 or something doesn't support 60Hz (not that he cares using his PS2 exclusively) but the sides are solid pine or something.

bastard of a thing to pickup. with current televisions being fairly thin plastic though it's more than possible to cause damage like that with very little effort.

personally wouldn't say that this isn't possible, but would go as far to say that the guy who did it was being a retard at the time. there's a number of isolated incidents that are becomming more of a big deal than they should be. just like the xbox 360 being prone to overheating, it's generally select cases and more often caused when in a room gathering dust for a while or heavy smokers are present. my desktop used to overheat constantly cause there were 5 very heavy smokers (including myself) who used to be in a fairly small living room constantly... should I blame Antec because they've not created a "dust/ash-proof" PSU yet?

stuff like this gets on my nerves cause it's idiots making something sound bad cause of their own ineptitude. given there's only a handful of reported cases with approx 1.5million units currently being used today, i'd say that this isn't anything to be conserned about. More to the point the manual itself comes with it's own safety booklet, if people decide not to read it they wave the rights that they legally have for not following safety guidelines... still more of this is down to sheer common sense.

I mean what do people need to keep ahold of the wiimote, a freaking handcuff system bolted to the controller?

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Quote: "The impact marks on the television plastic do not line up with the position of the Wii remote. It’s obvious the crack on the tv was made by an object that had a horizontal piece. The Wii remote had no parts that could make such an impression on the plastic wall."


^^ My Opinion exactly

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I quite worry that some here actually believe that a remote can be pushed through the shell of a standard TV.

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What's so stupid about that?

They are made of pretty much exactly the same material.

What do you think? That the shell of a standard TV could push a hole in a Wiimote?

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with all this it looks like they are trying to make sales go down so they can get one. the amount of people which will decide not to get one because of these could amount to something.

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I doubt it.

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Quote: "I quite worry that some here actually believe that a remote can be pushed through the shell of a standard TV."


You never been having a fight with your brothers?
It's not such a stretch that the Wiimote could do this..

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No human can throw that hard... period. I doubt the image is photoshopped, but I won't believe a human threw the controller that hard until I see it on video. My money says they put a chisel and hammer to the TV to make a hole, then jig-sawed out the shape of the controller, just a little smaller, then they shoved the remote into the TV and took pictures of it in that state.

How thick is the TV's plastic casing? How much does the wii's controller weigh? If we can find these things out, then we could get a good understanding of how fast the wii controller would have had to been moving in order to penetrate the TV like that.

It would sort of make sense for there to be that one vertical crack below the actual hole, a pressure tear. It would need to crack like that to allow enough flexibility for the wii's controller to penetrate the TV in such a big way. But it tells me that if this were magically real, and it was from someone swinging their arm, they'd have to be swinging downward, like chopping with an axe, as opposed to swinging upward, like pitching a softball. I wonder what game they were playing when this happened, and I wonder how constant a downward swing is needed to play that game? Why would they need to make that motion for a bowling game (like the bowling game shown on the screen)? I think they did this on purpose... why, who knows, but I seriously doubt anyone can naturally throw hard enough to do this to a TV.


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Somebody should report this to MythBusters

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I'm already on it two steps ahead of you hehe.


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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 22:40
lol the conspiracy theorists are onto it. just you wait when your controller gets abducted by aliens.
pfft give me a break..

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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 22:46 Edited at: 13th Dec 2006 22:47
Myth sent

lol Indi I don't think it's a conspiracy theory at all. I whole-heartedly agree with Chris K... I think someone broke their TV on purpose just to get a little taste of internet fame. We should try to figure out how thick the plastic of the TV is, and how heavy the wiimote is, so we can calculate how fast the wiimote would have had to been traveling to puncture the TV like this.


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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 22:46 Edited at: 13th Dec 2006 22:47
Nobody's saying it's a conspiracy

Just some people are only too happy to get some publicity. Look at this guy for example:



This was posted to http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/tag/you-do-not-talk-about-wii-club-221107.php and looks so unbelievably fake. You have to admit that

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The Wii-mote is NOT heavy enough to puncture the casing of a TV like that. Anyone who's played one extensively (like me) would know.

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If that isn't photoshopped, what is?


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Posted: 13th Dec 2006 23:00 Edited at: 13th Dec 2006 23:01
I put a hole in a door with a remote once trying to inflict serious injury on my brother. Of course it didn't stick in the door but bounced off unscathed.

Remotes are usually pretty tough, they have to endure being sat on by fat people, getting chewed by dogs and all sorts of other abuse.
I'm sure wii remotes have a similar construction and could well do some damage to a tv if you put your back into it.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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good luck with this post, Im over it.

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lol, yeah, I've heard those kind of reports, looks like some people are getting a little too into their wii's .

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I think the only way to prove this conclusively is to go to that guy's house and try and smash a Wiimote through the panel on the right hand side.

LOL if it did smash.

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Quote: "No human can throw that hard... period. I doubt the image is photoshopped, but I won't believe a human threw the controller that hard until I see it on video"


Quote: "The Wii-mote is NOT heavy enough to puncture the casing of a TV like that. Anyone who's played one extensively (like me) would know."


I would certainly say that despite it being fairly light, the sheer design actually makes it more than possible; especially on a fairly cheaply made TV. Hell I cracked the TV in our living room when I dropped my 360 wireless controller on it... that's an LG CRT Widescreen; the plastic is thin to keep the weight down as generally people don't throw crap at their TV especially not hard.

Seriously would need for it to be thrown quite hard, but I'd say it's quite possible it happened.

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Im not sure how strong that TV was, but I will say that years ago we had a lot near my house that people used as a junkyard. It was full of all sorts of things the trash pickup would not take or that you had to pay for them to take, like televisions. We used to love a new TV in the lot and we would throw rocks at it till the screen broke (yeah I was a dummy ) The number of times a good sized (7-8 ounce) rock bounced off the screen and did not break it was quite impressive. The casing was usually harder to break than that, though we could get small cracks easily making a good hole was another thing all together.

Thinking about the angle that remote is at would make you think it was a straight forward throw, from behind your hip to the tv in a pretty staright line. If it were from an overhand or underhand motion the controller would have been tumbling and far less likely to penetrate the casing. Think of shooting a pool cue, if you shoot straight at the rail the ball may jump it or come back with much less force then it went into the rail with. If you shoot at an angle however the Cue changes direction and transfers far less energy to the rail continuing on in a new path. Had the remote come in at an angle, as would seem likely from actual game play, it may make a small crack but would certainly bounce off the much larger object and not change direction mid air and burrow its wy into the tv case.

I think the JFK magic bullet is more plausible then this claim.

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Good point hob, I didn't think about that. In that sort of instance, I'd say it were definitely purposeful... I can't see why you'd make that motion, unless you were maybe playing a boxing game or something. We should measure the width of the plastic from the side-angle picture, using visual references for length, then find the exact weight of the wiimote with batteries in it. We could get a rough idea based on that, but I'm still agreeing that it's more than likely a purposeful TV injury.


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TVs when I was growing up generally were built to last, the screens were fairly thick; the case was generally wooden. It was very difficult to destroy the bloody things, even the 14" I had in my room an old Sony set; had ridiculously thick plastic case.

But these sets not only were built to last, but also weighed a flippin' tonne. Nowadays the emphasis is on providing the best size for as little money, as well as making everything as light as possible.

Plastic is far thinner for most TV sets and if you threw rocks at any fairly modern set you can expect nice holes to appear if not kill the set entirely. If you're going on pure angle, then honestly it looks perfectly fine to me...

god knows how you bowl, but generally the idea is to make sure your arm is straight just before you release the ball; if you notice the wiimote might've traveled a fairly parallel flight, it's angle suggests that it was done from an underhand throw.
Again if you think about how much force you generally use in order to throw a bowling ball down a lane, the sheer shape rather than weight would be far more of a contributing factor to how well it'll peirce something.

although sure the wiimotes aren't exactly heavy, they're still much heavier than any of the remote controls we have here. I can see them doing serious damage if they were thrown at something either intentionally or unintentionally.. in-fact I know how much they hurt after my lass lost a game of boxing to me and being the nice sore looser she is, decided to lob the wiimote at me. Got a nice bruise on my leg where it hit. (and I don't tend to bruise easily)

as I said, these doesn't seem unreasonable or unrealistic that someone could've done this. still saying that whoever did it was being a retard though.

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It's a silly claim. Too much thought is being given to it.


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