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Geek Culture / The Truth about Violent Youth and Video Games

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Saikoro
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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 22:12
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Stumbled upon this on the Internet, and though it would be an interesting read for some of you here, as this topic has been discussed on the forums previously. It's about a year old now, but it still shines new light on things that have been going around in the media about the topic.

http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/violence_and_videogames

What are your thoughts on this?


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Dared1111
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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 22:37
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Very interesting... ME LIKES.

one thing I say: 1)we still get age restrictions, 18 things for horror and anything scary is ok, but otherwise there shouldnt be age stuff.

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UFO
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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 22:52 Edited at: 19th Dec 2006 22:56
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That's a good article. Next person who associates violent games with crime, I'm going to stick this webpage in their faces. I'm tired of those stupid articles saying there is an increase in violence in kids with absolutely no good evidence backing it up.

There's bound to be violence because of GTA, etc. because there's violence because of all kinds of dumb things. That doesn't mean that there is more violence and it is the problem.

I think the government and press are just jealous because they suck at those games ...or maybe because they feel ashamed that they play them their selves. Or they're just some more closed minded people who think that things they don't understand are bad.

Edit: I agree with the age restrictions, even though they don't stop kids very often (by downloading demos, having busy parents that don't care much, etc.). I don't have much experience with this kind of stuff since the only thing that can play games is my laptop...

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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 22:59
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Its a good site, I linked that in one of these discussions before but it went ignored

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I have been trying to explain the idea of that article for my family for years, but my family never believed me, of course they all beleive this articele. I guess what really matters is the fact that atleast some people will know that video games are not the cause of child violence.

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Gil Galvanti
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Nice article. Logical and humerous and reasonable all at the same time, next time some news story is about how violent we are making our children through video games, I'll just point 'em right to that .

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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 01:56
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i like everything the guy says until around the last 3 paragraphs. then he goes overboard me thinks and is my opinion.

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Krilik
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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 06:07 Edited at: 20th Dec 2006 06:09
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Quote: "I'm tired of those stupid articles saying there is an increase in violence in kids with absolutely no good evidence backing it up."


That's been a misconception among lots of people over the past few years. And the reason why is because there have been more surburban white kids committing crimes as opposed to colored urban kids (not racism! Just stating a point). When people go to blame the "outbursts" between the two, one is committed because of setting and environment, and the other is committed because of some outside influence. Its unbearable for some to think a "normal" surburban kid could commit acts like that. That's why its a "problem".

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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 18:47
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Quote: "There's bound to be violence because of GTA, etc. because there's violence because of all kinds of dumb things. That doesn't mean that there is more violence and it is the problem."


They proved it caused a decrease

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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 19:57
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It makes perfect sense to me. I play violent video games when I'm mad... the pixels get all my rage so the real world is safer.
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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 20:19
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It was a very interesting article, I very much enjoyed the facts and figures and the purdy charts hehe.

Anyways, I especially liked this quote:

Quote: "It is more likely that aggressive people are attracted to violent media. Blaming violent media would be like going to the opera, noticing that most people there are rich, and concluding that opera makes people rich."


The first part of that quote about aggressive people being attracted to violent media I totally agree with. Now the second part while it may make perfect sense to some people, I believe it to be total rubbish. I agree with his point that violent games do not cause violence, however the analogy of people obtaining psychological traits is a far cry from people obtaining physical (or material) wealth. Placebo effect or cause and effect, it just doesn't happen. I still laughed when I heard it though

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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 22:29
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Quote: "Quote: "There's bound to be violence because of GTA, etc. because there's violence because of all kinds of dumb things. That doesn't mean that there is more violence and it is the problem."

They proved it caused a decrease"

I never said it caused an increase, I was just saying that because there are so many reasons that people become violent, there's bound to be one because of a violent game, even though it decreases violence. This is what the media pounces on and uses to prove that violence is caused because of violent games, but leave out the fact that the games have lowered the amount of violence overall.

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Steve J
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Posted: 20th Dec 2006 22:49
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The reason it looks like there has been an increase is that the media covers everything more. Before PEOPLE knew about the violence, but knew the real cause for it.

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missing: the truth about youth whose parents have abdicated their responsibility

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