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UnderLord
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Im trying to network all my computers together so that way if i want to access one computer all i'd have to type in is //computername my friend has this done at his house but he is currently unavailable, can anyone help me with what settings i need to change to get this to work?

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indi
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the internet is full of great tutorials on this subject
http://www.howstuffworks.com/home-network.htm
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/homenetworking/Home_Networking_Setting_Up_a_Home_Network.htm

just google network setup or home network if the above does not solve your issues.

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UnderLord
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But indi why would i want to do all that work when someone can just give me a short how to?

Im lazy what can i say....

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EddieB
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Networking can be an easy thing or a hard thing, I suggest looking at those tutorials indi showed you. If you mess networking up, its not fun .
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Phaelax
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1. buy a router (not a linksys unless you want to reset daily)
2. connect all the computers to it
3. cable modem connects to either 'uplink' or 'wan'
4. Set the DNS settings on the router

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Quote: "buy a router (not a linksys unless you want to reset daily)"

Thats kind of misleading. It may have been your experience but its surely not everyone's.

My routers are all linksys and I never have to reboot them as any regular practice. I did have an issue a while back (before Cisco took over) with a messed up firmware update which caused some weirdness. I rolled back the firmware update and all was well again until the router eventually died about a year later. I had it for about three years prior and never had a problem. I replaced it with a new version of the same router - no problems. My wireless router and the range expander are both Linksys and they have been fine for over two years. I guess, as with any brand name there will be fans and foes, each with their stories of delight and/or dread.



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Phaelax
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I remember you liked Linksys. But I worked on dozens of them a day for customers, and my overall experience with the hundreds of Linksys routers I've worked with, they're rubbish.

I know many people love linksys, but I have a pretty good background of use with them for not liking them.

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indi
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sorry, got no time for lazy attitudes, good luck if you want to make it in the computer world with lazy ideals. You never mentioned what kind of setup you wanted. if it was all wireless, if it had a hub or a router/hub etc.. best to pull your finger out and read, then think, then read some more.
If you do change your mind and give it a shot, we would be happy to solve anything thats not clear within the process of setting it up, however since you cant be bothered, neither can I.

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Guys, how do I make a game--- think WOW meets Half-Life 2 meets Riiiidge Racer. Too lazy to do a search, just give me a short howto. Plzthx.

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UnderLord
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Posted: 30th Dec 2006 06:07 Edited at: 30th Dec 2006 06:08
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Alright sorry guys, i have a linksys 802.11b router i have 2 wireless and 2 wired. How would i go about setting them up to be-able to open the 'My Computer' and typing //computername in the URL BAR to connect directly to the computer....

No hubs no switches no nothing....just a plain old 802.11b router....sorry for not giving enough information i thought this was going to be a simple setup but as some of you have shown though sarcasm that it isnt as simple as it might sound.

Quote: "Guys, how do I make a game--- think WOW meets Half-Life 2 meets Riiiidge Racer. Too lazy to do a search, just give me a short howto. Plzthx."


You failed horribly on that Jeku, it was more discriptive then my first post

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indi
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use the links mate, read and learn how to do it. show some effort on your behalf. if you get stuck then ask what component your having trouble with.

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Quote: "How would i go about setting them up to be-able to open the 'My Computer' and typing //computername "


ah misread earlier. thought you wanted foobar.com or something to open up to your machine.

First of all, 802.11b is old and slow. If you insist on using wireless, get a newer router with 802.11g.

Once you got all your PCs on the network (and same workgroup), all you gotta do is type the computer's name. The entire C: drive is shared by default, but hidden. So if your computer's name was "Underlord", you'd access it like this: "\\Underlord\C$".

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See indi like the above site and other sites i have visited, they do not answer my questions directly i thought it'd be as simple as having them on a router and then setting there workgroups the same. Do i need to set a "domain" too?

Those websites seem to not tell you how to do it, they are more like a "what is a router, how does it work" site not a "how to setup a workgroup and share files site" When i do the search function, they come up with sites that don't exist .

But you know....

Googling it doesn't help eaither

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Quote: "But I worked on dozens of them a day for customers, and my overall experience with the hundreds of Linksys routers I've worked with, they're rubbish."


My Linksys has been running beautifully for the last 6/8 months. It hasn't screwed up or anything - and it is on 24/7. Absolutely no problems at all.


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Posted: 30th Dec 2006 19:22
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Underlord

Unless you have a domain server, and are using domains, then no, just put all the pcs on the same workgroup.

Here's a common setup, ok:

Connect router to ISP, ISP assigns router the external IP via DHCP. Then set the router to enable its own dhcp server that way each connected pc will get assigned an internal internet-unroutable ip address like 192.168.1.100. Set windows networking on each connected pc to use DHCP (automatic network settings), dont set static ip's unless you need to. The machine names (named pipes) will be enough to do what you want, ie get to them with a unc path \\ThePCName\C$ - youll get prompted here for a login to the machine but only the first time you connect. You can also set up shares on the machines and add them as network connections etc. If each pc connected has a soft firewall then allow the internal ip range on each of them. In the router you can set a starting-ending ip range for the routers dhcp server like 192.168.1.100 - 110 or whatever. This generic setup should work on any windows pc's from 95 thru XP

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Right click 'My Computer' and find the Computer Name tab, that should tell you what workgroup your using. Click 'Change' if both computers are not using the same workgroup.

Barring firewalls, your PC's should be able to see each other through Network Neighborhood, which is part of Windows Explorer. The biggest headache is security, you may need to allow LAN connections, depending on your firewall it could be easy, or a pain in the butt. Maybe disable the firewall to make sure it should work, then worry about the complex settings if you need to.

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Quote: "Barring firewalls, your PC's should be able to see each other through Network Neighborhood, which is part of Windows Explorer. The biggest headache is security, you may need to allow LAN connections, depending on your firewall it could be easy, or a pain in the butt. Maybe disable the firewall to make sure it should work, then worry about the complex settings if you need to."


Yes that worked van B i had already setup 2 computers to the same workgroup but it still wouldnt connect until i set the firewalls to "allow all" then BAM! which is nice...im using sygate personal firewall on both computers i'll just make a rule to allow traffic from these IP's.

Quote: "Connect router to ISP, ISP assigns router the external IP via DHCP. Then set the router to enable its own dhcp server that way each connected pc will get assigned an internal internet-unroutable ip address like 192.168.1.100. Set windows networking on each connected pc to use DHCP (automatic network settings), dont set static ip's unless you need to. The machine names (named pipes) will be enough to do what you want, ie get to them with a unc path \\ThePCName\C$ - youll get prompted here for a login to the machine but only the first time you connect. You can also set up shares on the machines and add them as network connections etc. If each pc connected has a soft firewall then allow the internal ip range on each of them. In the router you can set a starting-ending ip range for the routers dhcp server like 192.168.1.100 - 110 or whatever. This generic setup should work on any windows pc's from 95 thru XP"


Thanks for your help cattle it works fine now. You and van b where the biggest helps as well as indi now i have a resource site to go to as well =)

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glad its sorted



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Quote: "glad its sorted"


Yes had to edit my post as soon as i got it done and hit the submit button i turned sharing on of "this folder" and Bam can access it.... =P im such a idiot...

THANKS FOR THE HELP AGAIN HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Are you running Home or Professional?

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Running pro on all my computers =)

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