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El Goorf
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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 23:46
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my new hard drive arrives tomorrow, and i want to take advantage of the space to try out linux, im just wondering which linux shall i spend the day downloading?

All my research shows a split between kubuntu and gentoo, so which shall i go for, or should i forget those and try a third option?

i need it to run happily with windows on the same drive, and not be too much hastle to set up since i've got exams all month.
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Steve J
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 00:06
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SuSe is a good one for beginners. Gentoo is for intermediate imo. Kubuntu is just plain crap (Ubuntu is terrible imho). The SuSe installer is very nice, it is easy to run, configures nicely. 10.2 is also amazing=D

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Jeku
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 04:16
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Quote: "Ubuntu is terrible imho"


Why? I've tried most of the major Linux releases and Ubuntu was the easiest for beginners. Simple to use, and a great starting point.

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Steve J
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 05:29
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It is terribly slow in comparision to other distros. It also has had some bad driver support in my experiences.

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Dextro
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I have to say (and I'm quite embarrased about this) that I love Slackware.
Easy to install, easy to set up, easy to develop on, and easy to mantain.
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Steve J
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 06:10 Edited at: 8th Jan 2007 06:11
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Dont be embarrassed, it is all about personal preference. For example I prefer KDE to gnome/command/ice/whatever, and I prefer speed to stability (I constantly install new distros, how long they last doesnt matter to me).

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n3om0rph
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 09:40
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Quote: "Ubuntu is terrible imho"


Actually it's not, it's very easy to install and use and I had no problems with drivers.

I recommend you to use Ubuntu.
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Steve J
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 09:51
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It is moot to me, Debian (What Ubuntu is based on) is a much better distro, very configurable. For a beginner though SuSe all the way

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 10:26
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I have had a pleasurable experience as a linux noob with fedora core 6 which I had mailed to me from a site for £2.87

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zzz
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 14:57 Edited at: 8th Jan 2007 14:57
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I use Ubuntu on an old pc and I think it´s great for beginners.



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Vampiric
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 16:49
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Ubuntu's very good for beginners, it doens't give you the choice for 20 different versions of notepad just one which I like a lot

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 17:00
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The term 'easy to install' is relative.

I've installed most distros over the years and some I would consider fairly easy to install could be classed as difficult by many users who are used to installing Windows.

If you want an install process like you get with Windows and an OS that looks like Windows and is used like Windows, I recommend that you take a look at Xandros OCE.

If I remember correctly, it installs in around 15 minutes with just 4 mouse clicks, can go onto the internet straight out of the box and can see Windows networks and shares without any configuration.

With software called Crossover, it can even run Windows software like MS Office and Adobe Photoshop.



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El Goorf
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 17:55
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i got kubuntu working from the disk, had net issues which kentaree sorta helped me with. atm, i can browse by typing the ip adress of th site i want, but not the domain name >.>
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Jeku
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 18:27
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Quote: "SuSe all the way"


Yah, if you want 7-10CDs for installation

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Vampiric
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 18:36
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I remember that, trying to burn 7 cd's for suse and then the installer said that 4 of them was corrupt. I cried

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x1b
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 18:42 Edited at: 8th Jan 2007 18:44
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Gentoo Stage 1 is ideal for the experienced, allowing for a source low level install, providing security and stabillity. Personally I support the Fedora Core project as I have been comit to RH from day 1.

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Kentaree
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@x1b: Gentoo doesnt come with Stage 1 by default anymore, but stage 3 now. The speed difference is so minimal that there's not much point bootstrapping everything anymore, although it is educating

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PowerSoft
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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 19:06
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Get Ubuntu for free, on CD's, for MAC x86 and 64bit.

http://shipit.ubuntu.com/

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Hobbyman
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I dropped Suse after they sold out to Micro$oft, Ubuntu or Fedora are ok, Suse are backing up MS in their latest F.U.D campaign by allowing them to endorse Suse as a "MS Authorised" distribution (Micro$oft are claiming Linux infringes their intellectual copyright ...intellectual?...Micro$oft?), now they are saying if you get a licence from MS to run Suse then they wont sue you for infringement, , wheres that axe, I have to get a flight to Redmond

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Steve J
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 01:23
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boohoo. You seriously just use linux because you hate microsoft? Man that is sad. Despite what the company does, the Distro itself is good.

@ Jeku: DVD's are more practical now. I use dvd installs.

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Jeku
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 03:54
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Well I meant it more like I don't want 50GB of worthless apps, including 15 text editors and 50-odd crappy games. Slight exaggeration, but you get my point

Ubuntu is clean, 1 CD, and you can pick and choose the software to install with the package program--- it downloads dependencies and sets everything up for you. Perfect for the Linux n00b.

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Steve J
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 03:57
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Ah, ok I understand now.

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PowerSoft
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 19:30
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And you can get them on disc for free..

and also KDE versions,

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Mnemonix
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 22:19
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If you run fedora, here is one of the best commands to run as root


yum -y install beneath_a_steel_sky




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mm0zct
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Posted: 9th Jan 2007 22:56
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i personally like fedora and use versions 5 and 6 on my desktop and laptop respectively, i noticed my java lecturer at uni uses ubuntu though (he doesn't like windows much ).

jeku: i quite like fedora having all the packages on the dvd/cd because it means i can install most of the things i want without an internet connection.

mnem: i'll investigate this strange package you are talking about, haven't seen in in my casual repo browsing yet

btw if you are going to use fedora look at rpm.livna.org for graphics drivers

AMD athlon 64 3000+, 1GB ddr400, 720GB total hdd, ati radeon X1900gt 256mb (pci-e) 17" tft(@1280x1024).
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Mnemonix
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Posted: 10th Jan 2007 11:00
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I think it might have been in the extra repositories I setup.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 10th Jan 2007 15:41
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Quote: " For example I prefer KDE to gnome/"


I have to agree with you. I tried gnome for a few weeks using a redhat server install and hated it. KDE was much nicer.

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