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Geek Culture / Drupal 5.0 released

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 13:51
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I know its not TGC releated... but I'm a bit of a Drupal "Fanboi" and Drupal 5.0 is set to be fantastic... Its taken nearly 1,200 patches and nearly 500 developers to get it there, but 5.0 is officially released!

Plus its Drupal's 6th birthday... Come on now...
"Happy birtday to Drupal...", etc..

http://www.drupal.org

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John Y
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Are you officially one of the '500 developers' yet?

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 14:08
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no - but i've written a module...
http://drupal.org/project/globalredirect
lol... w00t me!!!

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BatVink
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 15:29
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And I just installed 4.7.5 last week



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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 15:42
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Same. Lol...

5.0 has jQuery though which is reason enough to upgrade. jQuery basically standardises Javascript between browsers AND gives you a REALLY neat syntax to use...

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Silvester
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 15:44
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What is Drupal anyway?

as the page doesnt load to me.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 16:38
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lol - seems they're getting hit pretty bad due to EVERYONE going there... Drupal is a CMS sort of like Joomla and Mambo... Except (imho) Drupal is better mostly because of its extendibility and API.

My Thing Ma Jig site is powered by it and companies like The Onion and MTV use it for their sites. NASA use it for some of their sites too. As do SpreadFirefox.com.

Highly themeable and a really good foundation for almost any kind of site.

Out the box I think Joomla is more friendly and "useful" - but I dont think it holds much of a torch to what Drupal can do.

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Silvester
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Intresting,so websites are made with it...hmm...ill try it as soon as i can visit the site

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Quote: "Out the box I think Joomla is more friendly and "useful""


I'd agree with that. I wish I had more time to spend with drupal though, it looks infinitely more powerful. For starters, it does a fantastic job of integrating modules.



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Quote: "And I just installed 4.7.5 last week"


Similar story here.

Sounds interesting, except I'm currently piggy backing off of Cian's site without FTP access to me at the moment, so I'm sticking with the old version until I decide I am going to make another website or future possible sites.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 17:57
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The Drupal module system is just bliss. Compare it to other "leading" software like phpBB who's idea of a module is a text file with instructions of how to hack the core code.... Drupal is brilliant - you makee a module file and enable it. You then have a load of hooks you can implement (rather like in Java or C++ where you can define certain methods in a class which you can override) - for example, you might want to make a module which adds more fields to the default "node" (or page)... you'd just use the hook_formalter which allows interception of ANY given form (generated by Drupal) and you can modify it!

Which leads me to form generation Its so nice and neat in Drupal... Initially it might look more in terms of PHP code, but its easier to read + you can bind on all kinds of validation, etc...

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Josh
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 18:49
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If only Drupal was more simple to get into... for those of us who are in full time education + working + trying to get projects/websites off the ground there just isn't time to learn a new system.

I've gotten too used to SMF + TinyPortal (and it's great MOD system )

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 18:56
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That is something they hope to work on - the documentation aint great but it IS getting there (trust me, I started using it over a year ago and it was crap back then)

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David R
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 20:14
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Just installing 'a fresh right now (couldn't be bothered to upgrade though).

I have a slight snag database wise though - I get an error with my databases, apparently with an incorrect password or something, but it's definitely correct.

But yeah, Drupal 5's new features definitely look 'da bomb' - especially the new dynamically coloured theme


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David R
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 20:30 Edited at: 15th Jan 2007 20:31
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Sorry for the double post, and sorry to go slightly off topic (kind of) but the problem I'm experiencing (which I haven't experienced previously) when preparing for Drupal 5, is PHPMYADMIN wont' accept anything from my user - even though I'm the main root user, which means I cannot actually alter database settings correctly

(I was able to use CPanel up until this point, but I think Drupal's install is crewing because it isn't set up correctly, and needs phpmyadmin to tweak its settings)

But what is causing this, if I'm root?



I'd be very appreciative of anyone giving me a hand. Seeing as though most of the web-admin-centric persons have flocked here, I thought it best that I posted this qualm here


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 21:36
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Quote: "But what is causing this, if I'm root? "

In theory, that shouldn't happen, unless you've somehow revoked Root's privilege to do anything, including grant permissions... In which case you might be a little pooped...
I assume you've tried closing everything down and restarting just to make sure its not caching some old data?

Does your host allow you to connect to MySQL remotely?

Can you view the user table in the mysql database? If so - what are the settings for the users in there?

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David R
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Well it was kinda crazy. I've literally just managed to fix it, which is a shame with your answer 'n all.

It turns out CPanel has a grudge against MyPhpAdmin, so they cannot work at the same time. And in order to get the MySQL user to work for Drupal without using MyPhpAdmin, I had to add a user of the same privileges, user name and password twice

So for future reference to anyone who reads this thread, if the install read "Unable to read from <USER>@localhost" or "No write permissions to database <USER>@localhost" or something like that, and you use CPanel, try adding the DB user twice - it may just work. I'm pleased I randomly tried it.

And I'm loving Drupal 5.0's new look. Tis beautiful


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 22:00
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@David - that souinds like an interesting bug... I dont know if you have the option - but if you do, have a play with Webmin. Personally I prefer it to CPanel or anything like that. Plus I found a REALLY nice OSX-style theme for it!

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Posted: 15th Jan 2007 23:30
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That's a very weird bug, I've never had a problem like that with CPanel... Maybe its just your server setup? Especially if you're on a shared server.

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