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Zeus
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Location: Atop Mount Olympus
Posted: 21st Jan 2007 00:46
you know i thought i acted pretty crazy today on that chatterbox post. and i really wanted to say, i am sorry. my mind right now is basically a game with a glitch in it, right now. and i realized i have to have this forum, ever since i got Dark Basic i've been with this forum, and i intend to keep it that way.

Go ahead,ban me or lock this post, I deserve it.

-JSG

Xarshi
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Posted: 21st Jan 2007 01:22
nah man,don't be sorry. People were being jerks to you. I'll be honest though,the things you have posted shouldn't of been up,but you just gotta keep practicing dude. Basicly,just work on learning 3d stuff,and learn how to do everything right. And remember,wait to release a game for a wip that you would actually somewhat enjoy playing. Its all cool you create all this,and I know it can be really fun and stuff,but you gotta realize,other people don't exactly feel the same way about your creations like you do. Don't give up,but also don't release premature wips. Get what I'm saying?

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hyrichter
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Location: Arizona
Posted: 21st Jan 2007 01:27
Hey, I have no hard feelings against you.

I'd just suggest you go through a bunch more tutorials and sharpen up your skills before trying to post something in the WIP board. We were all new to programming once, and many of the really awesome WIP projects you see are written by people with years or even DECADES of programming experience. I started programming back in 1991, and I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means. There's just so much I have no clue about.

We certainly don't want to shatter your dreams, but you have to realize that programming anything, whether a game, application, or whatever, takes a lot of time and patience. You can't just come here with a WIP after only 1 day's worth of work. For example, I worked on my DBP IDE for 5 months before even posting it in the WIP board, and even today, after a whole YEAR of working on it, I don't consider it worthy of a version 1.0 quite yet. So, decide on a simple game idea that you can make, and focus on that. Again, I'd suggest following a tutorial and maybe seeing if you can expand on it after you've gone through it.

Good luck programming.

Good performance is better than a good excuse.
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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 21st Jan 2007 02:04
I can understand why you would get mad and post what you did JSG, because people were insulting you and naturally, like everyone, you got mad. But people wouldn't say things like that if you had just listened to some of us the first time . Many of us have told you repeatedly to wait to post your WIP's until they can compete with others on the board, but you kept posting them. Also, you've started a lot of games, but haven't focused on just one, which is something you need to do. Some tips when coming up with a large game project to stick to:
-Don't start something that just came out of your head, it may have sounded cool then, but in reality sucks .
-Don't make a ripoff/copy of an existing game (why would people play your game instead of playing the professionally made, real one? ). No offense, but for example, your tycoon games, and "human life", are branches/ripoffs of current games, and they will be hard to make without getting sued or getting tired of .
-Design, Design, Design. On my first big game, I designed it for 2-3 months before even starting a DBP project. Now I spend a few weeks on average designing my projects before starting them. If it doesn't look good on paper, it won't look good for real .
-Pick something that will interest you, something unique, something you won't get tired of. What game have you always wanted to play? What have you always wanted to do that you can't? What interests you? What movies do you like, and why? Can you make a good game (without copyright infringement), based off of similar themes/ideas?
Once you get an idea, write everything down, even if it's not a great idea, you may find a way to improve on it. Change it, all the time. I change my design ideas all the time, removing, improving, and adding concepts.

Be prepared to work for a while (especially since your fairly new) on learning and making all the game concepts. I've programmed for 3 years and still don't know close to everything. You need to learn before making, that was my biggest mistake. I set out to make a game without knowing the concepts behind making it. Would you feel confident that if someone asked you to program anything, you would be able to make it? I didn't until recently, and even now, there are a few things I'm not sure about. You really need to know your stuff before you set out on a game. Get into 3D, do all the tutorials you can, experiment with them, add models, change them, try creating another snippet that accomplishes something practical using what you learned from a tutorial.

I know how exciting it is when you first get into game-making, and realize all that you can do, but often times many people, like Benny said, don't feel the same way about your ideas or projects, as you do, at least until they are well formulated and have some decent progress. You just have to resist the urge to show off everything you do (I had trouble with that too ), because although it's exciting to you, quite frankly, nobody else really cares . If most people here can make in half an hour what your posting, it's not worth posting .

We really aren't all that bad, but please, please, take our advice. We want/like to help, but when you continue(d) to ignore our advice and criticisms, it can just be frustrating. I was the same way, and had trouble taking criticism and adjusting to the "way of the forum" when I was starting. People may seem mean and like they just are out to insult you, but they aren't, like I said. If you give it some effort and listen to us, and adjust to how the forum works (for example, to start, it'd help even if you just capitalized the right letters, little things like that give impressions. We aren't grammar Nazi's, but when people do things out of laziness, like not capitalizing letters, not using puctuation, or using "noob talk" (ur, u, wut, wuz ), it just shows a lack of effort ), we will gladly help. I'm trying to help, not insult, and I hope this time you'll take my advice, and you'll be much more welcome in the forum .

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hyrichter
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Posted: 21st Jan 2007 02:26
Well said, Gil. Please take his advice, JSG.

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Zeus
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Posted: 21st Jan 2007 23:32
thanks guys

Kieran
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Posted: 14th Mar 2007 10:27
sorry if this is offensive, its fine that you said that.

the problem is that you joined before me and i can teach you a few things, or more. i really think you should read some tutorials, find a few friends to help teach you some things, stop posting ridiculous things that annoy everyone so that they dont like helping you.

advice like that is what you need to follow.


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 14th Mar 2007 14:07
2 months after the last post and you brought it back? why?

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Dave J
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Posted: 14th Mar 2007 14:46
Because he hates everything good... or so I assume. Locked.


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