Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

Geek Culture / Spore.

Author
Message
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 04:56
Link
Anyone seen the screenshots and videos of it yet? The last time I saw their website, it was just the flash intro with nothing else.

http://www.spore.com/screenshots.php

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Kaurotu
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Oct 2006
Location: My Computer Chair
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 05:00
Link
Looks like a decent game.

Didn't the guy who designed the Sims desgin this game too?

[url=http://www.xboxlc.com/profile/Kaurotu]

[/url]
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 05:07
Link
I dunno, but its been in development for years. I hope it doesn't become another "Prey".

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Michael S
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 2nd Apr 2006
Location: Why do you ask?
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 05:19
Link
yes its the sims guy

If the speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second, how fast is dark?
Check out my current forum:http://ninjasoftforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Gil Galvanti
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Dec 2004
Location: Texas, United States
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 05:43 Edited at: 3rd Feb 2007 10:32
Link
I made a post on this a while back, and this will be without a doubt, one of the most innovative and successful games ever made. Watch the hour commentated video on it, it's worth it.

Quote: "Didn't the guy who designed the Sims desgin this game too?"

*GASP*, and you dare to call yourself a game developer! the "GUY"? He's only the most famous, creative, and successful game developer in the world...Will Wright. Such a disgrace not to know his name .

EDIT: Here's the video: http://media.pc.ign.com/media/735/735340/vids_3.html

EDIT2: That was actually the 20 minute video from '06, this one i think is from '05 but is longer
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-775656482294094003&q=spore+duration%3Along&hl=en

I highly recommend it, it's an amazing concept. It just get's better as the video goes along.

Pirates of Port Royale
Live the life of a pirate.
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 08:47
Link
What is this? Post about games everyone knows about week?

Anyway Spore looks pretty awesome. I'm not much of a Sandboxer, but this is stunning.

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
Back to top
Profile PM
Nicholas Thompson
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 6th Sep 2004
Location: Bognor Regis, UK
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 09:51
Link
I saw previews for this about 9 months ago and it looks absolutely awesome.

[center]
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 09:56
Link
and this makes it the 6 post about this game.

Geek Culture : Spore. 7 Phaelax
Game Design Theory : spore game 6 sith lord
Geek Culture : Spore-The Video Game 77 Gil Galvanti
Geek Culture : Spore GDC video presentation 8 Redmotion
Geek Culture : Spore again, gob smacking video. 4 Baggers
Game Design Theory : Spore - A very interesting game... 16 Peter H

Back to top
Profile PM Email
Tinkergirl
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 1st Jul 2003
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 10:54
Link
Well, to have some news then (as opposed to old info) I hear that it's also going to be released on the DS, as well as the PC. As far as I know, that's news.

Back to top
Profile PM
UnderLord
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 2nd Aug 2003
Location:
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 14:25
Link
Quote: "and this makes it the 6 post about this game."


Indi go back more then a year and you'll see more....

About 2 years ago when this game was just being announced i read about it before gamespot or any place had put it up on there sites...My friend has been watching it thoughout its development, it has been delayed once was supposed to be out last June i believe. Now its gonna be sometime soon.

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!

"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road."
Back to top
Profile PM
Oolite
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 28th Sep 2005
Location: Middle of the West
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 14:33
Link
I've mainly been creaming over the character creation system thing it has, nevermind all the rest of it.

I was amazed when at E3 he was showing demonstrating the game and he zoomed out, then out, then out again to see different galaxies, will definately be purchasing this.

I hope it doesn't get cancelled like BC, i was really looking forward to that

Back to top
Profile PM Website
UnderLord
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 2nd Aug 2003
Location:
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 14:34 Edited at: 2nd Feb 2007 14:35
Link
Quote: "hope it doesn't get cancelled"


Release date is second quarter of 07 so i dought it will get canceled...

"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road."
Back to top
Profile PM
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 14:43
Link
yeah i know. you can play the ive seen it before you game. officially when it was released at the convention in the states by maxim i was watching as well.
im keen just as much as you.

Back to top
Profile PM Email
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 17:47
Link
Well, I was sitting with Will Wright in a coffee shop when he had the idea, so nyah.

Back to top
Profile PM Website
Alquerian
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 29th Mar 2006
Location: Reno Nevada
Posted: 2nd Feb 2007 19:08 Edited at: 2nd Feb 2007 19:09
Link
Anyone seen the Robin Williams video of him creating his spore creature? It was pretty funny. I have been following spore for about a year now and it will be a revolutionary game, it will set new standards and brainwash millions. I will probably crawl into a hole of reclusive self-indulgence and play this game non-stop until someone informs me that my children have finished college.

That being said, this looks like the game of all games. Score one for Team Maxis.

Quit planning to make a game and make a game.
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Peter H
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Feb 2004
Location: Witness Protection Program
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 00:57
Link
Quote: "and this makes it the 6 post about this game.

Geek Culture : Spore. 7 Phaelax
Game Design Theory : spore game 6 sith lord
Geek Culture : Spore-The Video Game 77 Gil Galvanti
Geek Culture : Spore GDC video presentation 8 Redmotion
Geek Culture : Spore again, gob smacking video. 4 Baggers
Game Design Theory : Spore - A very interesting game... 16 Peter H"

i was totally the first

One man, one lawnmower, plenty of angry groundhogs.
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Kaurotu
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Oct 2006
Location: My Computer Chair
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 01:02
Link
Quote: "Quote: "Didn't the guy who designed the Sims desgin this game too?"
*GASP*, and you dare to call yourself a game developer! the "GUY"? He's only the most famous, creative, and successful game developer in the world...Will Wright. Such a disgrace not to know his name. "


Lol, sorry. I know who he his, I just couldn't think of his name. I'm not really a Sims fan. But, Spore looks promising.

[url=http://www.xboxlc.com/profile/Kaurotu]

[/url]
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 10:25
Link
I know the game has been posted here before, but I didn't know if the website had videos at that time or not.

Personally, I hate the sims, I think the game sucks. And I believe John Carmack is the most famous game developer in the world.

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 10:30
Link
Wouldn't it be Shigeru Miyamoto? Best game designer in the world?

Back to top
Profile PM Website
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 10:32
Link
Ok, I'll rephrase mine. Carmack best game programmer and most famous among computer nerds. Shigeru best designer and most famous among gamers.

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Jess T
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Sep 2003
Location: Over There... Kablam!
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 10:38
Link
Hey, to repeat some more information that we all already know about spore:

Will Wright hired the developers of .kkrieger to do all the procedural content generation

Nintendo DS & Dominos :: DS Dominos
http://jt0.org
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Dave J
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 11th Feb 2003
Location: Secret Military Pub, Down Under
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 13:30
Link
Quote: "Well, I was sitting with Will Wright in a coffee shop when he had the idea, so nyah."


Wait, so that was you I was eaves-dropping on?!


"Computers are useless, they can only give you answers."
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Matt Rock
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Mar 2005
Location: Binghamton NY USA
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 20:35
Link
Hideo Kojima. And therein the debate ends


"In an interstellar burst, I'm back to save the universe"
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Peter H
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Feb 2004
Location: Witness Protection Program
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 20:39
Link
Quote: "Quote: "Well, I was sitting with Will Wright in a coffee shop when he had the idea, so nyah."

Wait, so that was you I was eaves-dropping on?! "

ah Dave J, you must have been that annoying guy who kept leaning over into the path of my audio amplification device, which i was using to listen in with.

One man, one lawnmower, plenty of angry groundhogs.
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Kentaree
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Oct 2002
Location: Clonmel, Ireland
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 20:43
Link
Quote: "Carmack best game programmer"


Bwahahaha, you haven't played Doom3, have you?

Nephin Games
Devhat Developer Network and IRC Channel
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 22:49
Link
Quote: "Hideo Kojima. And therein the debate ends"


For what--- all of 4 games?

I'm sorry, but Miyamoto is responsible for dozens of franchises, and probably nearly half a hundred AAA games.

Back to top
Profile PM Website
BiggAdd
Retired Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 6th Aug 2004
Location: != null
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 23:06
Link
Woa!!! That looks outstanding. The character system is immense! I'm so buying this.

Back to top
Profile PM
Kentaree
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Oct 2002
Location: Clonmel, Ireland
Posted: 3rd Feb 2007 23:07
Link
I fully agree with Jeku here, Miyamoto is the best designer hands down. He also did the entire work on Donkey Kong and Mario Bros (not SMB) on his own, so he could also program

Nephin Games
Devhat Developer Network and IRC Channel
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Miguel Melo
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Aug 2005
Location:
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 01:39
Link
There's several designers that I admire, like Wright and Molyneaux. But I must agree that Miyamoto is probably the top dog of top dogs.

I have vague plans for World Domination
Back to top
Profile PM
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 04:14
Link
Quote: "Bwahahaha, you haven't played Doom3, have you"

I took a glance at the demo briefly, but it was just too dark for me to really play it.

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
David R
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 9th Sep 2003
Location: 3.14
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 12:14
Link
Quote: "Will Wright hired the developers of .kkrieger to do all the procedural content generation "


He did? I knew he took inspiration/advice about procedural content from them, but I didn't actually know he hired them, so that's something I didn't know


"History shall be kind to me, for I intend to write it" - Winston Churchill
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Benjamin
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 24th Nov 2002
Location: France
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 14:20
Link
Quote: "I took a glance at the demo briefly, but it was just too dark for me to really play it."

Doesn't it have a brightness adjust option? I can't play dark games on the old CRT monitor because it's just so damn dark. The TFT I had(will have again..) was really bright, so I had no problems. Now, if only it hadn't have broken after only a month..

Tempest (DBP/DBCe)
Multisync V1 (DBP)
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Jess T
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Sep 2003
Location: Over There... Kablam!
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 18:19
Link
I think he meant the game-play was too 'dark'... Like, too gory, or too much horror, etc...

Nintendo DS & Dominos :: DS Dominos
http://jt0.org
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Benjamin
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 24th Nov 2002
Location: France
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 18:52
Link
Who doesn't know that Doom is 'dark'?

Tempest (DBP/DBCe)
Multisync V1 (DBP)
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 20:31
Link
I think he did actually mean in terms of lightning. It is notoriously poorly lit. There's a line in Prey - "Oh no the lights have gone out, I'm doomed." which must be a jab at Doom 3. Kind of like Duke 3D's "That's one doomed Space Marine."

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
Back to top
Profile PM
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 20:44
Link
Yah, but Carmack wrote the engine, so he wasn't directly responsible for how dark the game was. The Doom 3 engine is a technical achievement regardless of how the few games using the engine turned out.

Back to top
Profile PM Website
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 22:15
Link
actually no, i meant literally too dark to see. But my crt is somewhat darker than it used to be 6 years ago. I could adjust the brightest through the graphics card settings, but everything else would get a washed out look.

Doom3 wasn't his only achievement though. Just look at how many games had used the Quake3 engine since it was created. It's quite an achievement to able to say, "yea, i've powered half the games on the shelf". (slight exaggeration but you know what i mean)

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Kentaree
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Oct 2002
Location: Clonmel, Ireland
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 22:17
Link
Yes, but unless I'm totally wrong, he didn't write the engine on his own, am I correct?

Nephin Games
Devhat Developer Network and IRC Channel
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 4th Feb 2007 22:43
Link
i doubt he did. Isn't quake3 when he supposedly came up with that weird inverse squareroot method or whatever it was?

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 5th Feb 2007 09:24
Link
Well I doubt anyone writes entire game engines 100% from scratch. I mean, he used OpenGL which is a set of libraries written by other people. And like you said, he used the inverse squareroot function that he didn't write. It's not very smart to reinvent the wheel and create everything from scratch.

Back to top
Profile PM Website
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 5th Feb 2007 10:16
Link
No he didn't write it by himself, he was just the lead.

No one knows who wrote Q3's FastInvSqrt, it's one of the greatest pieces of game code ever written and everyone who worked on the engine denies it was them!

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
Back to top
Profile PM
Peter H
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Feb 2004
Location: Witness Protection Program
Posted: 5th Feb 2007 15:35
Link
it was me

One man, one lawnmower, plenty of angry groundhogs.
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Jess T
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Sep 2003
Location: Over There... Kablam!
Posted: 5th Feb 2007 15:57
Link
If anyone's interested, I came across This While using StumbleUpon a couple weeks back - sheds some light on the mystery

Nintendo DS & Dominos :: DS Dominos
http://jt0.org
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Gil Galvanti
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Dec 2004
Location: Texas, United States
Posted: 6th Feb 2007 00:27
Link
I'm very confused by the whole point about why it's a big deal to get the inverse square root of a number, and what that has to do with Spore or games in general. Besides, why can't you just do 1/sqrt( x ) to get the inverse square root instead?

Pirates of Port Royale
Live the life of a pirate.
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 6th Feb 2007 03:53
Link
Quote: "Besides, why can't you just do 1/sqrt( x ) to get the inverse square root instead?"


Programmers have to be careful when using division, square root, etc. as it takes more cycles to compute than bit shifting or multiplication. When you're designing an engine where you have to push a CPU to the absolute limits, you can't use them willy nilly.

Back to top
Profile PM Website
Jess T
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Sep 2003
Location: Over There... Kablam!
Posted: 6th Feb 2007 08:11
Link
Even if sqrt() was just a Look Up Table, the division operation is quite intensive by a number of magnitudes over multiplication, which in turn, is much more intensive than any shifting (as Jeku said).

Nintendo DS & Dominos :: DS Dominos
http://jt0.org
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 6th Feb 2007 14:44
Link
Plus a lot of the time the reason you are finding a sqrt() is to normalise a vector, in which case you are going to divide by it anyway, so it is quicker to go straight to 1/sqrt().

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
Back to top
Profile PM
Back to top

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2024-11-18 05:28:35
Your offset time is: 2024-11-18 05:28:35