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Geek Culture / Eve Online - DevHat Alliance

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Kenjar
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 14:46
Yep, Raven, Myself, Kentaree, and DarkCoder have all been playing Eve Online! We joined a corperation which was bullying, controlling, and sucked all the fun out of the game :-( so after Raven was fired (hehe) we all walked out thinking we couldn't do any worse then that! So We've all founded the DevHat Alliance located in the Onga. It's a nice safe mining system so you won't get harrased. All races can join, we don't care where you come from, what you do, or what you fly. Anyone who's interested in joining visit our station. Anyone from this forum, will automatically get 5 shares in the corp given to them!
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 15:46 Edited at: 22nd Sep 2007 15:48
Oh any anyone who doesn't play the game yet, can get a 14-day free trial at:

http://www.eve-online.com/

You don't need to provide payment details, you can just play for 14 days and upgrade to a paid account if you like it enough. It's pretty good value a far as MMO's go.

Once you convert to a paid account I'll give you 10 shares in the DevHat Alliance. Plus of course you will be able to learn that game from people you know in this community!
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Quote: "We joined a corperation which was bullying, controlling, and sucked all the fun out of the game... so after Raven was fired"



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Quote: "It's pretty good value a far as MMO's go."


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I played EVE Online until I had to pay. There isn't really much to do, besides mine and fight. It's not worth £15 a month, or how ever much it costs.

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Hey I play, sorta but since I lost my Battleship I havent been as motivated, If I were to play again, Midway Empire will be your friends if you want


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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 19:45 Edited at: 22nd Sep 2007 19:46
Quote: "I played EVE Online until I had to pay. There isn't really much to do, besides mine and fight. It's not worth £15 a month, or how ever much it costs."


I used to think that too. In fact when I first tried it it wsa for three days then it was about 11 months before I tried again!

You are right, mining and fighting are the basic componants. But hey. What does Lara croft do? What does Doom do? What do most MMO's do?

What eve does have is a complex politcal and ecconomic system, the most original skill system I've ever seen in an mmo, lots of people to talk too, groups to chat with. There's corp side mangement as well. You can train to make your own ships and equipment! There's an e-mail system. When you become powerful even you can buy sectors of space, build space stations.

Beleive me these alot more to do here then triditional MMO's, really as much as you can do with currect technologies.

Be biggest aspect of this though is the social one. It's more fun playing with other people. And it will be more fun when the corp starts getting into wars and stuff

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E-Mail me! I'll send you the names of everyone else who plays on the forum so far!
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 20:15
I don't work, so I do not have an income, therefore I can not pay for EVE. I would play, probably, if I could pay for it, as I did have fun.

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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 20:33
Downloading now.

Your about to get pwned.
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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 20:42 Edited at: 22nd Sep 2007 23:01
I'm downloading now, I'm sick of people talking about it on irc and me not knowing what they are on about, but if I waste my time with this when I could be downloading pr0n...I shall kill you!

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tried the game, it required too much brain power and I gave up.

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Posted: 22nd Sep 2007 22:54
Excuse my ignorance, but wasn't Eve online the game where many of the programmers were caught cheating and building their characters up illegitimately?

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 01:20 Edited at: 23rd Sep 2007 01:21
If it was, I'm not clever enough to do it!

Every MMO will have it's cheats I expect
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 01:25
Quote: "tried the game, it required too much brain power and I gave up."


Lol, yeah I did that ages ago. But it's great now I understand what's going on! It's worth learning, if you need help feel free to e-mail SlicedPeaces (me) and I'll get you in contact with everyone else. That will speed up your learning 10 times!
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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 15:50
@Jeku: Yeah, and they got fired and fined

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 17:47
You should really try FFXI!

If EVE Online only has fighting and mining im not really intrested

FFXI has lots of things to do and it has same month price 12$

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 18:21
Quote: "If EVE Online only has fighting and mining im not really intrested"


Did you eve read the thread? not to mention even look the game up? Of course there's more to fighting and mining.

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 19:04
Quote: "I played EVE Online until I had to pay. There isn't really much to do, besides mine and fight. It's not worth £15 a month, or how ever much it costs."


Quote: "I used to think that too. In fact when I first tried it it wsa for three days then it was about 11 months before I tried again!

You are right, mining and fighting are the basic componants. But hey. What does Lara croft do? What does Doom do? What do most MMO's do?

What eve does have is a complex politcal and ecconomic system, the most original skill system I've ever seen in an mmo, lots of people to talk too, groups to chat with. There's corp side mangement as well. You can train to make your own ships and equipment! There's an e-mail system. When you become powerful even you can buy sectors of space, build space stations.

Beleive me these alot more to do here then triditional MMO's, really as much as you can do with currect technologies.

Be biggest aspect of this though is the social one. It's more fun playing with other people. And it will be more fun when the corp starts getting into wars and stuff"




Still if you can show me a cool video i might gotta look into it and stop playing ffxi while

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 19:04 Edited at: 23rd Sep 2007 19:09
You'll have four guys in here soon telling you it's alot more indepth. Hell it was 10 hours before I understood all the basics of the game! lol

ALso Roxas I've only been playing for about 5 days. I'm still working out eveything that's in this game. My skill set is only just allowing me to customise my ships for instance. I discovered yesteday that cargo containers when used correctly in conjuction with cargo hold exdends adds another 60% to my mining ship! There's loads of devices and gadgets to play with, ship types. There's no level limitations like other MMO's, you can explore every aspect of the game. I'm only just starting to see how massive it is.

Heck 2 mins ago Tinkergirl pointed out that there an EVE-Radio station http://eve.gamingradio.net/ that actually charges you ISK to listen to it! lol. It's the most interesting MMO community I've come across.
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I remember attacking people for no good reason and having Concord blow up my ship. The last time I attacked some one, was because they stole my drones, that I forgot about. The player who I attacked, then tried to pod kill me, which would have let me hunt them down and kill them freely

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Posted: 23rd Sep 2007 20:44
I agree Eve fees are extorsionate!

one cool video coming up...

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 01:44
you kidding? It's like £15 for the first month and £10 thereafter. You want extorsinate? Go buy a sony MMO.
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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 01:59
Hey guys I managed to kill a 103 million ISK bounty. So I gave 40 Million to the corporation!
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I played EVE for a while. Even had my own corp where I manufactured alot of pods and made good money. But overall, you run out of things to do quickly. All there is to do is mine, fight pirates, fight drones, build your ship and trade. Not much more to do.

I found Dark Space alot more interesting, random and exciting and 1000% prettier.

http://www.darkspace.net/

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Eve is the best game ever!! If you think all it is is mining and fighting then you didn't look very hard. Thats just whats on the servace. There is much more going on. ex.:
I was in a core that operated in low-sec space. There were several gates that were often camped. So our corp worked with other corps in the area to create a secret information network that we used to avoid pirates.

Eve is the only game I have found that the players are really serious about the game. Players have even setup a job finding website to help players find jobs in corporations. Its awesome.

p.s. The website is www.eve-careers.com.
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Fighting, Mining, and Trading that's all there is?
This is something I hear quite a lot about Eve.

You know what, Elite 2 was the same. Yet, the amount of people that wasted their time playing that is craziness. I know full well I'd end up finishing my homework as quickly as possible just to be allowed to go on the computer to play it again.

Something that people often miss out on games like this is, while yes you're right if you break them down to their base components there doesn't seem much to do. It the fact that they're not basic that really makes them so freaking cool.

For example, right now I'm doing quite a few missions. They're all in the "intelligence" sector, although they're level 1.. So this means I'm often told to checkout a sector or intel has said there is a possibility of pirates. Ya know basic stuff. So I end up going somewhere, blowing up a few pirates. Walk off with more rep with that agent, more rep with the corporation he represents, and more rep for the race that corporation represents.

To begin with, when he didn't trust me. I was basically sent out on milk runs. A few deliveries, perhaps taking out a pirate that is camping in secure areas of space. As I've done more and got more rep with the guy I've started to get more difficult missions, with some more inventive situations. Yeah, I'm still basically doing the same couple over and over in different systems; but that ends up changing. As I get more rep, this will lead to me protecting convoys, spying on rival corporations to the agents corp, assasinations, etc.

The higher up you go, the more diverse the missions get. Every so often you'll get a story mission which again are the same basic mission until you get enough rep (basically a trust level) for them to believe you're capable, and competant enough to handle more important missions that have more to do than just "go here and kill this guy".

My brother for example isn't doing mining missions, but Research & Development ones. This means he ends up with lots of multi-part missions that involve mining resources, refining them, creating blueprints, engineering then manufacturing. Right now he does Shuttles, but down the line this ends up with him customising blueprints to provide that corporation with a ship, or equippment that has the edge.

All of the missions while interesting really are there to keep teaching you that added depth to the game that is there. The further down the rabbit hole you go, the more interesting things become. There is so much that can be done, and doing it all on your own is silly. If you play the game as a single player, then pretty soon yeah it all becomes quite samey. As you gloss over what is happening in the universe for your own petty funds and safety.

The whole corporate world in Eve makes it a very interesting place. Especially as even the ai races are basically just corporations which you can fight against. This can be done through a number of ways as well.

There's no way to really, realise the sheer depth of the game by just taking it from a single aspect or trying to take it all in on your own. Hell right now the Devhat Alliance is debating going to war with another corporation; we have people that we want to hunt down for bounties because of what they did to us on day 1. The experience of the game doesn't really come from the game itself, but what you make of it.

Eve is big... I mean BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG. There is just so much content it's ridiculous. It simply isn't a case of "where will this game force me to go", because there is total freedom. No matter what you're doing your free to do it without an intense storyline that is the same for everyone forcing you alone even though it's an ever-changing persistant world.

Some players might need the constrictive nature of a game that forces you to do specific things, but Eve doesn't and really the more you put in to the game yourself the more you can get out of it.

As I said above, all there was to Elite was trading, mining and fighting on the surface. It's what you can discover when you scratch a little deeper in each of these areas that makes the game loved by so many.

I'd recommend anyone who felt there wasn't much to eve, just read through the player guide on the website. As it gives you a hint of what is waiting under the surface. With the corporations the universe of eve does realistically end up relying on you the player to sculpt it.

Well anyhow, I quite like it. Find it amusing and addictive. ^_^
Plus, Zerk how the hell can you say the game doesn't look pretty?
I think my destroyer looks absolutely gorgeous!



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*toggle*

... Like I said, free is the best price for an online game.

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You wont be saying that if you're ever working for a company that makes MMOs

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Meanwhile in my spare time, I'll still be writing Open Source code

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I'll be writing open-source code in my free time until I come up with a product worth selling

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Haha, ain't that the truth!

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Quote: "... Like I said, free is the best price for an online game."


If you don't mind lower shelf life, that is EA keeps shutting off servers for games that are ~3 years old.

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Is DarkSpace free? It's a shame it has only 22 players online, Looks good if it's an indi game. Not quite on par with the million $ budget eve but I can forgive it for that if it's a freebie

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@the people saying eve's fees are high-
What, do you think its cheap to run a online game server that has had 35,000 people online at the same time, connected to a database with over 200,000 people and capacity for 40,000 people? And they have two seperate test servers that support close to the same amount of people. And they release two free expansions every year, AND they are working on a brand new database system AND a new graphics system.
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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 22:30
Yay! Fellow EVE players.

I am very tempted to join your ranks as I am looking for a new corporation to join. I am also very delighted to see you are based in Minmatar space.

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The DevHat team at warp!

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The interface looks too confusing for my pea-brain.

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actually the interface is quite simplistic, just looks complex.
I mean unless you're the player who likes shortcut keys for everything, then it can be 100% controlled by windows-style mouse system.

Personally, I don't use much except for what is in the center of the screen. That said I'm more into combat and missions.
Some more screenshots cause, well just want to show off some of the beautiful hardware I've bought so far and the nice vistas you can get from the game.





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Hope ya'll enjoy as there will be more to follow ^_^

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Quote: "What, do you think its cheap to run a online game server that has had 35,000 people online at the same time, connected to a database with over 200,000 people and capacity for 40,000 people? And they have two seperate test servers that support close to the same amount of people. And they release two free expansions every year, AND they are working on a brand new database system AND a new graphics system."


Nope, I don't think it's cheap to run an online game server.
I do, however, think that my $100 outlay is more than enough to be able to play the game (I realize that Eve doesn't have this requirement). If that isn't enough for me to enjoy the entire game, then it's not worth it, IMO.
Personally, I hate MMO's, and prefer the traditional online mutliplayer games where you only do multiplayer after you've finished the single player game

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I quite like mmo games, but it would be nice if they also had an offline feature.
Eve and Guild Wars for example would be just as enjoyable offline as online due to both having very involving storyline based gameplay but you're not restricted to it.

Hell said it before but Elite was awesome. No storyline whatsoever! Yet still a sweet single player experience.

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I'd like to welcome a few new members to Devhat Alliance;
Gico, and well some others I forget the names of. You know who you are so speak up!

The corporation is actually starting to slowly flourish.
There have been some quite underhanded goings on of late.. just before my departure to Kisogo (Caldari State Space), our CEO SlicedPeaches (aka Kenjar) decided to liberate a fully equipped Merlin from a rival corporation called Cambio Logistics And Supply Services (CLASS for short).

For those who don't know, this was the original corporation we were in prior to my being fired for nothing more than getting irritated with my "superior" who was telling me how to play the game. When I refused to accept his apology 20seconds after the argument started, the CEO canned me.

The day that followed was quite odd, but we ended up starting our own corporation; along with one of their miners (and major benefactors) Cyclon. The dude is pretty cool, ended up having a good long chat with him about how crazy american chicks can be; especially the hot ones.

Well anyway, a couple of days back SlicedPeaches infiltrated CLASS and we ended up with the hardware. Basically with me getting the blame for "assasinating" that member due to being a disgruntled employee. Technically speaking I was (and am still disgruntled), but there was no actual weapons fire that took place. Ahh the world of espionage is cool, although couldn't really do it myself much given I tend to like shooting things.. it always seems to be Plan A, so Plan B (runaway) doesn't usually come in to effect unless I'm out-matched.

Anywho, after this I recieved a communication from Vytak (CLASSes CEO) basically telling me he'd figured out that I had stolen his ship (not true, it was a present ) and either it was to be returned (although he didn' say anything about the load-out which was worth around 350,000isk mind hehe) or give him 1,000,000isk.

Now you can imagine the response I gave, consists of two words. One of which being OFF.

So at this point he claimed he was working for another corporation/alliance, and his company was just a dummy one. Actually went on at some length to that effect; after 20-odd minutes of asking to speak to his superior, and getting told I wasn't worth the time. I kinda ended the conversation. Not without a nice death threat from Vytak mind.

Now at this point it's been about 48hours since this meeting, and oddly enough not only is my character still very alive and well; but I'm actually very close to Band of Brothers space, the corp/alliance he was trying to inscinuate he was working for. It could just be that I am honestly that insignificant they don't want to bother with me, or I could be wrong about who's after me, or they've not been able to track me down yet. then again another possibility is he was full of cow-dung.

In any case really, our business itself (which he also threatened would pay) seems fairly safe. Apart from anything else it's based in 1.0 security space... only a retard would attack us there without declaring war, because Concord (police force) would own anyone who tried an attack.

Right now our CEO has mentioned that for 1,000,000isk per week another corporation will take down CLASS; while we built-up our forces to do things properly. That said, the question of if it's even worth the isk is really one we've been throwing around.

Still doesn't matter too much, the current plan for the corporation is to sort out military/security pilots (capsuleers); continue our mining operations, and expand the R&D dept which right now consists of my brother heh (he does make a nice Mimatar Shuttle mind )

Just thought I'd recap on most of what's happened with Devhat Alliance in the 5days we've been running (and the week that I've not been playing again). If anyone wants to join us, remember we're based in Onga, and will soon have an office in Caldari Space (if I can find somewhere cheaper than 15mil/month to rent)

Look forward to seeing new recruits from here in the coming weeks/months heh

Will post some more screenshots later on today after I've been to the doctors.

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So they make you go through a lot of red tape to start up a company? It's pretty expensive? That's very cool--- sounds like it's half business sim, half exploration. I wouldn't mind trying it now

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oh its much more than that. They even have thier own economist that just monitors the market because it has become so complicated. There are many corps that have hundreds, if not, thousands of players in them. And there are reasons you would choose a corp- they might have good resources, good factories or good blue prints. They might have some expirienced players. They might be in a large and powerful alliance (hopefully against the evil BoB). They might offer free ships, or an open hanger that corp members can exchange items with.
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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 15:25 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 15:26
** DEVHAT AT WAR! **


Yep it's happened! The DevHat Alliance is going to war. Seventh Sanctum decided we're the new boys of the block, so want to pick on us.

Intel Report Seventh Sanctum:

A militaristic corp who takes pleasure in starting wars with other corps. Their 4 man team might not sound like much, but we know at least one of them is flying a Tech Class 2 Assult Ship. Fast, manuverable ships that specialise mostly in Drone or Misslie attacks. If it gets through our lines we can expect large amounts of pain. What the rest fly is unknown.

After talks with this Corp, I convinced them the declare war on CLASS too. As they would not withdraw their war threat from us. This will effectively mean that they fight a war on two fronts, and Class, who have fewer members, will likely come out of this worse.

DevHat Readyness report

We have several plans in place, most of which depend on the number of ships we have in our fleet and what ever these guys are flying. From what little we know, and that's not much, we're most likely outgunned. We have a few big guns on our side, and three fresh cruiser classes. The current plan is the have GICO cloak, move in, and take notes, then get out of there, when we have intel, we can then think clearly about the situation.

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When the corp is at war, all fighter pilots will be able to arm themslves from our military stockpile. The corp will pick up any insurance that pilots take out, and we are willing to pay new pilots 1,000,000 ISK to join up, and fight with us. Any gun in the sky is better then no gun at all.
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Haha, you talk about it like it's actually important... You could even fool Gene Roddenberry

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:24
Quote: "Haha, you talk about it like it's actually important... "


Because it is, our corp has only been alive for a week. We're probably at war with pilots who have months/years of skills behind them and ships to boot, when at war no space is safe from attack so everyone needs to be on guard and within support range . Sounds cool though! luckily it was only a small corp this time, in a few days our fleet will have some Battlecruisers in I hope .

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:36 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 16:38
Don't you guys have jobs or something? I have heard (from a reliable source) the amount of time you spend playing this game, and I'm pretty surprised. Mind you, not so long ago I was playing games all night...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:43
I would like to point out, that we will still do background checks on new members to make sure they aren't working for other corporations.

After actions earlier in the week we can't be too careful, especially in a time of war.

The non-agression directive isn't lifted from Concord until 21:00GMT, so we still have a few hours to prepare before combat can officially start without Concord stepping in. So new members will be safe for a short time outside of the Onga system.

Operations within Onga will remain business as usual.
Research & Development can use the facilities available at the Creodron Factory (our HQ), we also will keep patrols going for the Miners to remain safe. Recent Intel reports suggest that only military vessels really face any combat, however I'm not willing to risk the safety of our members.

We are still looking for members to help with our Mining, Research & Development operations. Building up the business aspect of the corporation is still important.

No point in going to war without our resource gathering to build more ships and equippment

We also need someone who is capable of keeping an eye on the stock exchange, along with providing logistics for retail or military requirements.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:50
Wow... Lighten up, it's only a game!

Seriously though, go out and meet some people at the park, or the pub or something...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:20
Quote: "Wow... Lighten up, it's only a game!

Seriously though, go out and meet some people at the park, or the pub or something..."


heh, actually what has me quite griped by Eve this time is the fact we're not playing this alone but as a group. Last time I played, just got my skills up to kill off other players for kicks.

never did anything corporate-wise, just merc work mainly. it's quite a bit more involving with others though; so it's quite fun to get lost in the whole character aspect.

you think we're "serious" about it, you should really see some of the others. There's a news channel, job center, etc.
we're just trying to get more of you guys involved and playing really.

wanna see something cool for the game mind, check this out:

Latest Soveriegnty map - Empire is AI Race controlled territory, the rest are player corporations. It can get quite competitive to really make the most from the game.

Good example is, the next ship I want is 35,000,000isk however earning that much takes quite a while. In a corporation it can reduce this time by working together and pooling resources. So rather than it taking me several weeks to get it, it can take a few days. As the corporation gets larger and begins to make more money through business means it becomes more possible to afford and share more hardware that playing solo it would just take too long to get.

Good example is I'm determined to get a Titan this time before I call it a day again. Training just to fly it will take me another 3months in total, but to buy it would take me almost a year of saving; plus the week I'd have to wait for another corporation to build it for me as they're special order only. Then I'd have to hope that an opposing alliance to them doesn't destroy it during construction (like the last 2 have had happen to them!)

It's the most difficult ship to aquiring in the entire game now. With our own corporation, not only can it be build with our own resources (costing less overall) but also with a decent enough defence and subversion of the truth to other alliances we can make sure it remains safe while construction is completed.

Personally I find it quite fun to keep the whole game character thing. Sure it's crazy to take it seriously, and trust me.. I'm not taking it seriously at all; just having a bit of fun. One of the big problems we have with CLASS is that they were sucking the fun out of the game; and the CEOs constant threats about making the game no longer fun by having us constantly podded by a corporation who is more powerful really pisses me off. I mean why ruining peoples gaming experience because of being a retarded monkey?!

It's like the gate campers who tend to pick on newbies they know can't defend themselves. Atm they claim, "Hey, newbies need to understand 0.4security space is dangerous" but to me it just ruins the experiences of new players and makes them wonder if it's even worth playing.

So ya know, something I'd like to do once I feel happy about the attack and defence of my ship (or if the corporation gets a powerful enough fleet) is to hunt down these people. Cause why ruin the experience of someone else just to teach them a lesson they'll probably never understand because they just won't give the game enough of a chance to get in to?

Seriously, try the game out. Join our corporation for a while, if you still think we're taking it too seriously then fair enough. I think we're all just having a bit of fun. Well cept perhaps Kenjar who gets a little obsessive about things

Personally my last couple of posts were just to give the game a bit of story for those who like to be involved in a storyline. I know some of you do. After all aren't games suppose to be like movies and books where you can loose yourself .. difference with Eve is the PLAYERS make the story not the game. You get out of it what you put in.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:56
Yes it is only a game. But it's more fun when you really immerse yourself into it. I mean the whole point of games and films, books etc is the escape reality a while.

As for the amount of time spent on it, I usually leave it running in the background and visit it now and then. I\'ll leave the ship mining and check on it ever hour or so, while writing support mails, my book and a few other bits and peices.

Anyway, I had a converstaion with Miharu Hinata while under the guise of my blackops profile. He doesn\'t know I\'m the CEO and I\'m basically feeding him information, giving him the impression that we all fly weak rookie ships and low grade frigetes. The intention is to A) Give them more insteat in our Rival Corp CLASS, and B) so when the fighting starts they will completely underestimate our combat abilities.

warhex > war started yet?
Miharu Hinata > Yea it has.... i havent popped your ship yet because its a rookie ship and i thought you woudlnt knwo its started
warhex > I don\'t have any other ship :-(
Miharu Hinata > hehe... you shoudl probably warp away or dock then
warhex > most of the corp flys rookies or friggets
warhex > don\'t know why you bothered to spend 2m starting a war with us
warhex > most have only been playing for 3 days
warhex > you just want fights or are you guys going to pod us too?
Miharu Hinata > Its just how we make money...
warhex > from killing rookie ships?
Miharu Hinata > We will pod poeple if tehy are too slow yes
Miharu Hinata > No
Miharu Hinata > no money in rookie ships.. tahts why your still alive =P
warhex > how about friggets
warhex > I think alot fly probes and stuff
Miharu Hinata > Bit of moeny.. infact a good PvP frig costs a million ISK
warhex > I think the probe is only worth 148k or something
Miharu Hinata > Rifters are good for PvP ... Merlins for Caldari.. Tristan or Incursus for gallente and a Punisher for Ammar
warhex > don\'t think we have rifters
warhex > do you make good money with probes?
Miharu Hinata > I spoke to your CEO a few days ago... He said something about mining in a Maelstrom which is a battleship.. also ive seen GIC0 in a Cruiser before.. but he is one month older than me so he can probably be pretty good
Miharu Hinata > It all depends on what is fitted
warhex > yeah GICO has that, but he said he\'s just going to watch, not fight. Don\'t want to loose his ship
Miharu Hinata > heh... how can he watch?
warhex > dunno, I think he\'s got another profile
Miharu Hinata > I saw a cov ops on scan earlier but wasnt sure if it was him
warhex > GICO I know has alot of real expensive implants so he don\'t fight if he could get podded. He has 8 miners on that mestom, he mines and Slicedpeaches hauls it back in a hoarder
Miharu Hinata > its too bad he doesnt want a little PvP really... sounds liek he has dsome nice ships to do it in
warhex > he got rich by not fighting
warhex > where did you go? :-(
Miharu Hinata > anyway... back to being war targets.... I didnt pop you since i didnt knwo if you really knew the war had started... if i see you even in the rookie ship i will lock and fire... aslong as your a war target your shiop doesnt matter =]
warhex > you guys are weird
Miharu Hinata > Orly?
warhex > yeah I mean you make more mining
warhex > or getting angel bounties
Miharu Hinata > not exactly true.. you can make a fortune PvP\'ing
warhex > only with a corp that will fight in good ships, this corp is like 4 days old! most members are still on the 14 day trial
Miharu Hinata > still make ISK... you CEO also asked if we coudl dec CAMBIO or something... so we have
warhex > yeah we don\'t like them
warhex > too weak to take on Vytaks ships though
Miharu Hinata > I dunno who all there members are or when there online though
warhex > Vytek is online now
Miharu Hinata > Really?.. what does the COMBIO CEO fly then?
warhex > some kind of cruiser I think
warhex > he\'s been playing alot longer then us, I know his skills are alot higher
Miharu Hinata > ah ok... well we decced your corp because your CEO happened to give us all of your corp info when i asked him... and we are in the proccess of decccing CAMBIO just cos we can
warhex > they will fight more, we have twice the members but SP still don\'t want to risk fighting them
Miharu Hinata > Ive had one of there mebers eve mail me already asking if war can be avoided... 20 mil ransom is fair... if tehy dont pay the war goes ahead and teh ransom ups to 50 mil
warhex > lol
warhex > our whole corp has 1.2m
Miharu Hinata > lol... 1.2 mil... is that all.... woudl have thought GIc0 coudl be raking it in at his age lol... hes a month ollder than me
Miharu Hinata > and i missed a month of Training cos i had no money to subscribe
warhex > he\'s only 27 and disabled
Miharu Hinata > Disabled in what way?
warhex > He\'s too scared to go outside or somethink
Miharu Hinata > ah so its a phobea?
warhex > birds or something dunno
warhex > he\'s just mental lol
Miharu Hinata > Well apparently Raventesio and poeple are made for combat.. coudl be nice o fight them
warhex > yeah we can\'t pay you **** though an\'t got it
Miharu Hinata > the war on Cambio will be up soon and i think we are helping in another war aswell
warhex > can I join you guys? You sound more fun then DevHat
warhex > I bored of watching miner ships
Miharu Hinata > well not right now... were gonna be gettin into some pretty dangerous wars soon, and being 4 days old you may not decide to pay to carry on playing and you can only fly small ships properly
Miharu Hinata > we need members that can fly cruisers atleast pretty well.. with a month or 2 of experiance behind them
warhex > oh you only fight in tech 2 do you
Miharu Hinata > tbh the only reason we didnt stop this war was because by the time your CEO suggested CAMBIO to us we had already paid.. so this war will only be up for a few days of casual PvP .. nothing serious
Miharu Hinata > Nope.. Tech 1 is fine... Cruisers are nice though with some good SP
warhex > k
Miharu Hinata > This just happens to be teh only ship i have right now though.. which happens to be T2
warhex > it will be fun to fight, will learn lots
Miharu Hinata > perhaps you coudl look for a newer empire war dec corp ... If you carry on playing after the trial and once you have around 4 or 5 million SP get in contact with us if you still wanna join.... if you still even remeber us by then
warhex > k
Miharu Hinata > were planning to dec <url=showinfo:2//1234929558>HUN - FBI</url> and <url=showinfo:2//1459511039>Latronis Obsidis Liberatas</url> soon.. i doubt you woudl like fighting them atm because combined tehy have just under 40 players and tehy are all much olde...
Miharu Hinata > I woudlnt worry too much about us since we will be pulling this war against you in afew days
Miharu Hinata > and we will only go against those who are willing to fight... hopefully your CEO will have got teh combat characters togetehr like he said he was doing yesterday =]

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