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FPSC Classic Work In Progress / Pointless Assault Returns X10 W.I.P

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wizard of id
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 15:57
Quote: "my problems are all technical"


Well lets see...kidding.

No I'm not dissapointed in X10 as such I am more dissapointed in Lee and TGC.

X10 is really great but we have all being taken for a rather exspensive ride.....

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chees hed
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 16:26
yeah, i know there are many possible ways to make a joke but i think yall know what i mean. anyway it WAS l;ooking good and NOW with x10 it looks even better! great job and hope you do well.

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wizard of id
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 19:50
Like I said I was coming to convert some of the X9 levels....
Level had a hard time every thing was out of place and has to remove some things so I have to rebuild every thing again.

What is really sucky is that the water level needs to be adjusted each level you go down and can't be lowered to the lowest level if you 2 or 3 levels above it.....

Well looks like A lot of work lies ahead getting every thing ready for X10 or I would have to wait till most models packs are converted or rebuild levels block for block again with other segments and enetities....



You eyes are not deceiving you there is a door attached to this guy.









check the first page and compare the X9 screen shots...some of the stuff is missing.

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Endless Fps Team
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 20:02
Good Job man!! Like this alot...Awesome work here...Keep it up, and glad to see u remaking it in x10, cant wait...

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 20:08
May I ask why is there a door on his back?

wizard of id
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 20:14 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 20:15
Quote: "May I ask why is there a door on his back?"
Um you tell me....?

Funny enough the door moves with him reflects on the water and cast a dynamic shadow....???

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Zdrok
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 20:53
I don't know why there has to be water; I think water in a grungy warehouse is a bit odd.

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wizard of id
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 21:45
Quote: "I don't know why there has to be water; I think water in a grungy warehouse is a bit odd."
Lol I know

It's not final yet but I'm going to make very little use of it except the mirror effect here and there

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Aertic
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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 12:12
Hey, It pointless
So there are Pointless things in the Game,That's why its called Pointless assault.

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Slayer222
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Posted: 21st Jan 2008 18:20
If you open the door does it lead to another dimension?

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 21:22 Edited at: 27th Jan 2008 02:21
Removed and member banned.
Roger Wilco
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 22:16
It leads to the subcon, if you're lucky you'll find a mushroom in there...

Anyhow, like the looks of the conversion so far! Although, I can see some entities are missing, which sucks. I hope you get it sorted.
Aertic
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 22:27
Yeah, I like the Lightmapping.

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Zdrok
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 23:03
Quote: "This game sucks!My mother could do better."


Let me guess: you just joined the forums to say crap like this. If you don't use FPSC, then why'd you join? Better yet: why did you even join in the first place? Don't put down a great looking game for no reason!

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Opposing force
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 23:25
Quote: "This game sucks!My mother could do better. "


Is it because you're jealous? Aww.

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Slayer222
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2008 23:33
Quote: "This game sucks!My mother could do better."
There's been a wave of noob accounts like this one recently. I think it's one guy trying to stir up havoc after his ban. Whoever he is he's a noob and a jerk.

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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 00:46 Edited at: 23rd Jan 2008 00:46
@ Shiitaki

Okay, give me you phone number, I want to talk with your mother about game development.

Aertic
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 17:16
Me Too, If she can do better than I would like some Tip's...No seriously I mean It!
Im a Freakin Noob.

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Inspire
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 21:21
I bet that's someone who created a double account.

Aertic
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Posted: 23rd Jan 2008 21:29
Me too!
Roger Wilco
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 01:49
I bet it's one of those butt-faced aliens, cause he acts like an ass.
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 01:52 Edited at: 24th Jan 2008 01:53
It's definately an alien. Good call Roger.


[On topic]I do think that this is pretty close to the original, even if there are somethings different. This looks really good, still. Great job Wizard of Id!

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Cheese Cake
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 02:45 Edited at: 24th Jan 2008 02:46
Shiitaki.
Quote: "This game (.....)!My mother could do better. "

I just love your mom!

Anyway Wizard....new screenies look superb!
First time someone posted levels with some thinking in it.
(scenery, level lay-out, lightmapping...etc)
And Oleg of course with the outdoor environment.

This is looking very nice...and would love to see more screenies.

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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 02:47
Quote: "I bet it's one of those butt-faced aliens, cause he acts like an ass."


That's a terrible stereotype. Not all aliens acts like that! We...er...they are sometimes nice!

Those screenshots make me want to get X10, even though I don't even want it. It just looks so good.

wizard of id
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 03:50 Edited at: 24th Jan 2008 03:51
Shiitaki that is quite the name you have do you even know what it is??Dude get laid four eyes...

Thanks guys.

Just a quick update.Trying to get shadows working like they should so I'll upload some screens later on, on my findings I think it looks good.

Yeah I picked up some problems.And some neat new features.
Well remember in X9 when you put two differently coloured lights next to one another sort of over lapping.They didn't "blend" well they do so in X10..sweet.

The problem I found have not fully tested it yet but it seems you have to use a higher ambience to get the bloom effect with other coloured lights other than white.This puts a dent on things a bit if you want to use a very dark surrounding with a low bloom effect....

Pointless Assault video
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 16:43
Quote: "Shiitaki that is quite the name you have do you even know what it is??Dude get laid four eyes...
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Actually, he only has three "i's". Har har har.

@ wizard of id:

I heard that the shadows in X10 are far worse than in X9. Is this true? Because that makes no sense, they both use DarkLights, couldn't you just change it in the .ini file?

wizard of id
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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 19:25
@Inspire lol

This should awnser your question, also custom media ain't too big of a problem...As you can see I tested various scenes different types of light mapping to get the required affects...Should be fun to see what I can come up with next...













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Posted: 24th Jan 2008 20:43
That looks really good, Wizard of Id. It makes me want to upgrade my system to run X10. But then I remember the money it requires and the bugs in the current build...

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Posted: 26th Jan 2008 20:55
Wow!! This is the most amazing FPSC game I hav ever seen!
I really look forward to seein this finished (although I dont have and dont plan to upgrade to X10 so I cannot play it )

wizard of id
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Posted: 29th Jan 2008 20:27
Not complete yet but a little "before" teaser...should be done in about two weeks or so a nice outdoor level with a sewer system...

Going to take a lot of work getting it to look like a outdoor level outside textures and grates will change sort of a concept level which is working out nicely...



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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 01:31
It looks pretty. Maybe a little too bright, though...

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 19:13
Yeah well still have to play around with the settings overall look not too bad have to get the bloom down a little and get better shadows.

What I would like todo is get bright light maps only on the left side to create the effect of the sun shine....

If that doesn't work I would have to import my Light mapping fix for directional light mapping which works wonders but limited in effects...

overall still a little too bright but I need the bloom effect for outside.This requires more tweaking I would have to up the light mapps from 461 to around 800 to 1200 to be able to lower the ambience and not have it look like night.The great thing about this would allow more shadows to be rendered however I will get shadows in the wrong place....













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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 19:22
IMO the refraction looks awful, but its your game. Besides that my jaw was hitting the floor looking at some of that yummy custom X10 media.

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 19:34
Quote: "Besides that my jaw was hitting the floor looking at some of that yummy custom X10 media."


Lol um they not.......

yeah pretty peeved with the out come has to be changed....

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 19:50
I guess that rusty barrel comes with X10. And curved MP3 walls

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 19:58
Quote: "I guess that rusty barrel comes with X10. And curved MP3 walls"


Oops yeah the curved walls are custom but not the texture...

But stay tuned busy with getting my custom media X10 ready and some bumpmap goodness will upload some free stuff..when I have some time...

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Posted: 30th Jan 2008 20:14
Time's money Well I know the texture ain't custom but its still cool, I can't figure it out to save my life. It always removes the whole segment when I place it in a level.
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That is amazing... Seriously nice work.

Keep it comming dude, the last three screens look as good as a commercial game. Your leel design is awsome as well...


Great stuff, keep it up.

Will be downloading for sure...
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Posted: 2nd Feb 2008 15:58
Not bad but:
-TOO MUCH BLOOM!!!
-too strong refraction

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2008 01:57
@wizard of id. I would like to wish you all the best with this game and anything you do in the future. You have talent in level design and it has not gone unnoticed.

Have a good 1.
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2008 04:52
Great work

BTW, I had an idea awhile ago you might want to think about. You know HDR? Where the amount of bloom is dependent on the overall light? I think it would be cool if you used trigger zones (and remember, the factor field is very important for this) to control the amount of bloom - in indoors areas you raise the bloom, and when you step outside it lowers as your "eyes" adjust to the light. The darker the scene the more bloom you could apply.

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@Wizard of Id

I hate X10 screenies, they always make me feel jealous, since my computer doesn't have a snowballs chance in the sun of running this sort of thing.....

Dang, X10 seems to be 100% eye candy, mate....lol.

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You're a realy pro at levels. Nice job, can't what for the game.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 17:23
Thanks for the feedback guys.Haven't done any work the last week had a short holiday at the coast.So I'm all refeshed and relaxed...

stay tuned!!!

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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 19:06
got some of the problems sorted out.







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Posted: 10th Feb 2008 20:54 Edited at: 10th Feb 2008 20:55
X10 makes me want to buy it so bad!
Also I'm just saying this... but I might know someone who
can patch X10 to be XP compatible. I don't know if he'd do it
or not... but I'm just saying. Maybe If he could though, I could buy X10 and be able to run XP while
creating games in it! Of coarse I'd also
share it with the community!

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Posted: 11th Feb 2008 13:44
Apparently after Lee's done with V1.08, He'll port over some of X10's shiny features to X9....

Unsure whether this means we'll have to buy this "V2.0"....

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Posted: 11th Feb 2008 15:25
I'm already testing out V1.8 and it seems pretty cool.
The whole map editor has changed a bit because now the green
and reds for static and dynamic are brighter and I noticed how
the text font is different. Also some test-game changes mentioned
are noticeable.

Astek

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@coffee grunt: Lee mentioned earlier that version 2 would be free for all who own the original version, if I remember correctly.

@wizard: The design on this is really sexy in an FPSC-way, great work.
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best fpsc game to date, and doesnt even have a story.

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