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tha_rami
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Posted: 12th Jun 2008 13:55
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Got 22 processes running on Vista, 24 on XP. Then again, Sepp, Acer does pre-install a lot of crap on your PC. Empowering Technology. Hah.


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 12th Jun 2008 14:16
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Quote: "Then again, Sepp, Acer does pre-install a lot of crap on your PC. Empowering Technology. Hah."


That is true, but ET has a couple of good utilities, but the rest I've not used - might do some unintalling on this system - I'm sure a lot of the processes are Norton too. Some of them just seem to be audio drivers too.

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Sid Sinister
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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 04:16 Edited at: 13th Jun 2008 04:18
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Quote: "Vista bug? I thought it was your hard drive."


Nope, my hard drive checked out fine. It was all Vista and a bug with autochk.exe not setting in the registry which prevented a chkdsk to run at boot. There was also many SFC errors, which doesn't necessary mean Vista right away, but it means that some where along the lines, something wasn't handled right and it resulted in system files getting corrupt.

Woah! I have 97 processes, you guys only have 22? What did you do? Not install anything?

EDIT: I'm trying to get rid of this Dell Crapware that came preinstalled on the computer. Does anyone know if the dell crapware comes programmed on the Vista disk? I other words, if I do a format and reinstall will it just put bare bone vista on there without any dell crap?

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Big Man
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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 09:01
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I am really happy with vista i havent had it crash on me at all in the year iv had it and i use it for most things, from games to web site development and most other things you can think of so i have had a chance to utilize a lot of vistas features without problems.
No offence when i say if your so unhappy with windows and microsoft why do you still use it? Stop being ungrateful and move to mac or something.
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Chenak
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There is definatly something wrong with dells and vista, my boss bought a dell machine with vista installed and its a nightmare, there are so many things wrong with it it is unbelievable.

So the problem seems to be with dells with vista not vista itself, probably the crapware they install are not vista compatible O.o
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Samoz83
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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 18:44
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Quote: "Does anyone know if the dell crapware comes programmed on the Vista disk"


If you use the Dell Vista disk then from what I know it does also install the Dell rubbish as well.

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Sid Sinister
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 00:21
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Quote: "No offence when i say if your so unhappy with windows and microsoft why do you still use it? Stop being ungrateful and move to mac or something"


Direct X.

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David R
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 00:30
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Quote: "Direct X."


Run parallels


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Big Man
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 00:35
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Quote: "Quote: "No offence when i say if your so unhappy with windows and microsoft why do you still use it? Stop being ungrateful and move to mac or something"

Direct X."


I just re-read what i wrote and realised how nasty it sounded :S i ddnt mean for it to read like that sorry i really meant no offence
but yeah the basic principle of what i said still stands.

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bitJericho
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Actually, in my experience with dell discs, they're usually just the windows disk pretty much unmodified.

However, it may also depend on the type of system/disk you got. If it looks like a custom jobber when you go to reinstall (not the standard windows disk installer) then you'll probably get the crapware. But if you boot up the disk and it looks like the good ol' standard windows installer, it'll probably be just straight windows.

Do keep in mind that if you got a laptop, you'll probably have to download drivers for all your devices, like your lan card, wifi, video, etc.

So have a usb key handy with another computer so you can access the internet and download the drivers from dell's site, (or do it before you reformat).


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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 06:47
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The dell logo is on the Vista DVD... so I'm hesitant to even try it. Maybe I can ask someone in the Dell forums. If their is even such a thing as the dell forums... *goes looking*

Quote: "Run parallels"


As in dual booting? I hate dual booting. It's a waste of disk space and it's like having the cake and eating it too... you just can't do it. I don't want to hassle with having some files on one install and the other things on the other one.

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Homey the Clown
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vista was rushed and dell computers are a joke in my mind. gateway isnt too bad and they have really decent customer support. only problem im having with vista is coding in dbp!! everytime i compile a program (even an example), the compiler complains that it cannot create file but my desktop computer (windows xp) everything runs perfect. trying to get this sorted out as im getting real impatient with it...

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Chenak
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Vista was far less buggy in release than windows xp was. That bug was fixed in 6.9, however fastsync is broken in that patch.
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 17:18
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Homey, DBP runs fine, I have an old version on my disk (back when DBP came in boxes instead of DVD cases) I updated it to the latest, stills works. All you simply need to do, as UAC does let anything work properly unless it trusts the program, you just need to go into the properties of DBP (by right clicking on the icon) and then going in 'Compatibility' and select 'Run as administrator', basically it allows the application to override UAC.

Of course make sure you have your program set to a resolution that works for computer (I have widescreen so some of the display settings didn't work)

If that don't work, refer to the 'Vista compatibility' sticky under the DBP discussion:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=104612&b=1

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Sid Sinister
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So far I was told the same thing as you said on the Dell forums, it's a plain Vista install without the Dell crap.

I'm starting to look into the drivers needed. Are drivers for a laptop generally more finicky than a PC's? Should I be worried about doing this myself? I'm pretty tech savvy so... I don't think I should have a problem. I've formated and installed many a desktop computer, so if it's the same thing I should be fine.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 20:34 Edited at: 14th Jun 2008 20:37
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Quote: "I'm starting to look into the drivers needed. Are drivers for a laptop generally more finicky than a PC's? Should I be worried about doing this myself? I'm pretty tech savvy so... I don't think I should have a problem. I've formated and installed many a desktop computer, so if it's the same thing I should be fine."


No, should be as easy as double clicking and then clicking "I agree", followed by "Next", etc. Very easy to install dell drivers, as all their drivers for a specific laptop are right there for you to download when you look at your model.

You might need to have your laptop specs handy, cuz there may be multiple drivers for the same laptop. For example, some laptops may have Intel Graphics or Intel Extreme Graphics. That's about as complicated as it gets.

Do keep in mind though, that you may not need many, if any, extra drivers with vista. I've only had experience with reformatting dells using XP.

Vista has much better driver support.

After you install vista, you'll want to check your device manager (right click my computer > properties), to see what drivers you need to install.

I'd take the window's drivers over dells (In most cases) for everything but the video card. For video, I'd go straight to nvidia's or ati's site.


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Sid Sinister
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Yeah, sounds like a plan.

I also received this message back from the dell forums:
Quote: "Nope. All that other stuff is on either the Resource/Drivers and Utilities CD or on separate disks."


I'm weary about even using those dells disks. I think it would put me back in the same exact spot as before, with crapware/bloatware and over 90 running processes.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2008 05:30 Edited at: 16th Jun 2008 05:34
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I don't know what's wrong with every other computer in the world, but my new desktop came with Vista, and it works absolutely perfectly. This computer is strained constantly, running GPU and CPU intensive games and rendering 3D worlds/models in development, and performs without a problem, having yet to crash a single time. It hasn't been off for more than a night, and has streaks of uptime in excess of a thousand hours (according to task manager). Maybe it's just me, but Vista seems to run pretty well.

@Homey the Clown: Make sure you aren't trying to save to a subdirectory of Program Files, Vista won't take kindly to that.


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