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Omega gamer 89
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Posted: 13th Aug 2008 22:05 Edited at: 13th Aug 2008 22:07
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Quote: "I'm just stating facts. If you don't like it feel free to throw your monitor out a window. "


Yeaaaaaahhh... Definitely a troll curse...

First off, that is not a fact(s), that is YOUR opinion.
Second, you are deliberately posting irritating and/or insulting messages in an attempt to draw out flames. (Saying someone is wrong for having a different opinion than you is insulting.)
You are trolling, sir.
You are trolling.

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Posted: 13th Aug 2008 22:46 Edited at: 13th Aug 2008 22:47
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I'm just kidding around. I really do prefer pancakes though. They taste better.

Quote: "But what's kind of sad is that people don't do that, people put, jam, syrup chocolate, even ice cream, they put sugar on top of sugar pretty much (In lack of better words, I'm sure I'm getting something wrong there)."

Indeed.

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Quote: "Second, you are deliberately posting irritating and/or insulting messages in an attempt to draw out flames. (Saying someone is wrong for having a different opinion than you is insulting.)"


You are wrong times a million because pancakes are better than waffles. Benjamin speaks the truth.

Although I do like the fact that the little squares in the waffles hold the syrup in, whereas pancakes just soak in. With waffles though I always end up cutting between the squares perpendicular to the edge of the waffle. I think I have OCD .

I rarely have either because when I do I go maple syrup happy . That stuff is pure sugar man!

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I was wondering how this topic got so many posts...

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how the hell did we get this topic onto waffles V pancakes I dont know?

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Posted: 14th Aug 2008 06:03
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Quote: "how the hell did we get this topic onto waffles V pancakes I dont know?"

I don't care either, it's bloody brilliant.


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Posted: 14th Aug 2008 06:18
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Take that back sid sinister, chuck likes waffles

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Pancakes vs. Waffles was Omega's idea.

Also, more support for pancakes > waffles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezepop
On the right sidebar - Members - The Duke of Pannenkoeken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasson_Crooker
From Mr. Crooker's page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannenkoeken

Freezepop likes pancakes.
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Posted: 14th Aug 2008 08:11 Edited at: 14th Aug 2008 08:14
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Posted by RobertF:


Does that waffle have a p... oh wait, I'm not sure I'm allowed to use that word around here.

@Geryon:
Pannenkoeken are my favorite food. Try one with Cinnamon, Apple and Raisins. Wow.


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When considering the pros and cons of waffles vs. pancakes, you must consider the fact that waffles has celebrity endorsement from Chuck Norris. It's all about marketing.

I prefer pancakes, but not the homemade kind. I mean the mini ones you get from Tesco. Homemade are just sickly. Even the scent makes me feel genuinely sick. I think I actually developed a phobia of it. But the other type of pancakes are glorious. Rasberry jam and whipped cream on top are better than sex. By far. End argument.


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Quote: "I mean the mini ones you get from Tesco. Homemade are just sickly."

Really? I like homemade.


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Have you ever had homemade waffles, made in an actual waffle iron? You will die a happy man. Personally, I believe that homemade pancakes > store bought pancakes. BUT I ALSO believe that Any kind of waffles >>> any kind of pancakes. Besides!
Have you ever heard of a cartoon character named "pancake"? I don't think so. Waffles have more celebrity endorsements and it IS largely about marketing.
Even if it wasn't, Waffles taste better!
ALSO:
Does anyone remember the episode of Family guy when Peter is golfing and he hits a ball into a business man's head? The business man is saying to his partner (over the phone "take all of your money out of T-Bills and put it into (then he gets hit by the ball) WAFFLES! Tasty waffles with lots of syrup!"
See? even Family Guy endorses waffles. And if FG advertises it and/or says its good, it must be true!

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Hey, you're right! Ah, but Peter Griffin also sings "I like pancakes, I like pancakes, they make me feel so nice." Or something along those lines. Getting a lot of contradictions here.


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Hmm... that is true.. Oh, and he says
"I like pancakes, I like pancakes, they make me a happy Peter."
But that was just his personal opinion. And, as we know, Peter is none too bright. The BUSINESS MAN, who trades stocks and has a lot of money, and power, (And therefore must be smart.) says to invest in Waffles. His Professional business strategy is to invest in waffles.
SO, even if pancakes ARE more popular NOW, waffle stocks are going to go WAAAAAY up in the near future!
INVEST IN WAFFLES!

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Posted: 14th Aug 2008 19:54 Edited at: 14th Aug 2008 19:59
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So you're saying only intelligent people eat waffles? I believe to the contrary, the only people I know that eat waffles are really stupid. Especially considering pancakes taste much better (you might not agree but I think you're wrong) and don't taste of poo although poo can be spread on them if desired.

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I think that the fact that waffles are popular among the "average American" (in terms of intellect) should say enough about the average intelligence of the waffle-eater. Family Guy also like waffles. Pancakes/Pannekoeken however, are really popular in the Netherlands and we, by median, are smarter. Also, Benjamin likes pancakes.

The inevitable conclusion is that pancake-eaters are smarter.


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Quote: "So you're saying only intelligent people eat waffles? "

No, I'm saying that it eating waffles is MORE intelligent than eating pancakes. As is investing in them.
Quote: "although poo can be spread on them if desired. "

... You just completely nullified anything and everything you've said/will say in this argument.

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Quote: "No, I'm saying that it eating waffles is MORE intelligent than eating pancakes. As is investing in them."

Yes and while you're at it have some luther burgers and 20 pound steaks. Won't make them anywhere near as good as pancakes though.

Quote: "... You just completely nullified anything and everything you've said/will say in this argument."

This is your opinion, which with a bit of researching I've come to the conclusion is wrong.

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I just like how waffles are a bit crunchier. I like both but prefer waffles.
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Luther burgers will kill by insulin shock. And they are not part of this debate.
Quote: "This is your opinion, which with a bit of researching I've come to the conclusion is wrong."

No, it is fact. By posting something so creepy and wrong, you have just lost all credibility of anything you say. If you are capable of posting something so random, gross, and weird, you obviously can NOT post anything intelligent or correct.

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Jeez, you should learn to separate fact from opinion.

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Jeez, you should learn to understand sarcasm. (even if it was text, you should still be able to tell I wasn't serious.)
Oh, and also:
Quote: "Ok, facts:

Waffles suck.
Pancakes are better than waffles.
Anyone who disagrees has bad taste in food."


Take your own advice.

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I can separate fact from opinion, and I think it's fact that pancakes are better because the majority of people have this opinion (this is a fact, if you think otherwise then prove that I'm wrong).

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Quote: "prove that I'm wrong"

I'm going to enjoy this.
A) You claim that "pancakes > waffles" is a FACT because the majority of the people have that OPINION.
This makes no sense in and of itself. You can't say that many people having one opinion makes that opinion a fact. It is still an OPINION. A fact is something that can be proven scientifically without a doubt, no opinion can be proven. If something can be proven, it is not an opinion.
B) consider this hypothetical situation:
Lets say that everyone on this forum, heck lets make it everyone in THE WORLD, has the opinion that the sky is orange with green polka dots and red stripes. I on the other hand, say its blue.
Who is correct? Obviously, in this case, I AM.
Just because the majority is of a certain opinion, does not mean that said opinion is fact.
OWNED.
YOU FAIL.


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Quote: "A fact is something that can be proven scientifically without a doubt, no opinion can be proven."

Pancakes have been shown to have more flavour, this is a scientific fact. More flavour means they are better. Waffles taste of poo anyway.

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Pancakes == Waffles


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Posted: 14th Aug 2008 22:10 Edited at: 14th Aug 2008 22:11
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Quote: "Pancakes have been shown to have more flavour"

No, they haven't, because Flavor is NOT something that can be uniformly measured from one person to the next. It is completely relative because not everyone has the same taste buds. You CANNOT PROVE that pancakes are better than waffles or vice-versa. (yes I realize that's how I worded it in my initial post. I should have worded it differently) This debate was merely meant to establish which was more popular/which is more widely favored.
Yes, pancakes are winning the debate right now, but you CANNOT prove, as fact, that they are better.

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Actually, you could prove the number of chemicals that add flavor.

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You can't disprove the fact that they are better, so I win. And yes, you can measure flavour.

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But not every person will like the same flavor from the same chemical. You could LOVE the taste of one chemical in pancakes/waffles and I could find it revolting.
Again, it is all dependent on who is eating the food in question.

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Quote: "You can't disprove the fact that they are better"

...Are you even reading my posts? I ALREADY HAVE disproved that they are better.
AND, if we went by YOUR logic, YOU cannot disprove that waffles are better. SO I WIN.

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But pancakes do taste better. I can't believe you would think otherwise.

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Can you guys stop f.... reaking fight about whatever is best pancakes or waffles, it's OPINIONS, everyone has their own, there's no darn reason to fight about it. And besides, it's probably better not to be eaten anyways so if you are going to fight about something fight about that.


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Quote: "A fact is something that can be proven scientifically without a doubt"


Not always; It is a fact that I just quoted you correctly, I need no scientific formulas explaining this.

Quote: "Lets say that everyone on this forum, heck lets make it everyone in THE WORLD, has the opinion that the sky is orange with green polka dots and red stripes. I on the other hand, say its blue.
Who is correct? Obviously, in this case, I AM."


Wrong again, the 'sky' itself can have many colours that we perceive, such as blue, black, red, orange etc, though all we are normally seeing is scattered sunlight as we don't directly see the atmosphere(unless you can see infra-red), if everyone but you had different eyes and perceived different colours, dots, stripes etc then that would be correct, the sky is pink and what not, you would be the odd one out that sees blue.

This is the same thing, you are the oddball that likes Waffles, despite pancakes being clearly superior, as you posted a meme he's one for you:



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Okay, I will explain this AGAIN.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER SOMEONE THINK THEY TASTE BETTER.
because that is what someone THINKS.
It CANNOT BE PROVEN SCIENTIFICALLY THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
No two people have the exact same taste buds, so no two people will taste a food the same way.
YOU may think they taste better, but someone else may have a different arrangement of taste buds that would cause that person to find them revolting. IT IS NOT UP TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE THE TASTE OF SOMETHING.
You could WANT to like something till you're blue in the face, but it wont wotk. If you don't like it, you don't like it. END OF STORY.
I PERSONALLY, find pancakes quite enjoyable. Just, less so than waffles. This does not mean one is better than the other.
Quote: "But pancakes do taste better."

Yes, to YOU they taste better. NOT to everyone.

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Well this is a debate about which is better, pancakes or waffles. Majority rule that pancakes are better.

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Quote: "IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER SOMEONE THINK THEY TASTE BETTER.
because that is what someone THINKS.
It CANNOT BE PROVEN SCIENTIFICALLY THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER."


Quote: "Actually, you could prove the number of chemicals that add flavor."


He meant like that.

Also, Alucard, I think it's a semi-joke fight.

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Okay maybe the sky wasn't the best example. how about this:
If the whole world thinks my name is "Sally McSwishysoosh Baldwin", and I say its "John", who is correct?
(BTW,my name IS John.)
Or even this:
The hole world says that the computer that I'm typing on doesn't exist. I say it does. I am clearly correct, because if I wasn't this post wouldn't be here. JUST BECAUSE THE MAJORITY THINKS IT DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.
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Quote: "but someone else may have a different arrangement of taste buds that would cause that person to find them revolting"


You're saying only people with mutated tongues find waffles nice?

Also here's your scientific proof:

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There's no use in being called John if the whole world knows you by another name. In the same way, there's no use in believing waffles are better when everyone here prefers pancakes.

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@ ALucard:
A)
we are no longer arguing about which is better. We are now arguing about whether an opinion can be proven as fact or not.
B)
Yes, this is a semi joke fight. Although I am clearly still correct i this instance.

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Can you back that formula up?

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Quote: "There's no use in being called John if the whole world knows you by another name."


That's not the point. It is a FACT that my parents named me John. It says "John" on my birth certificate. If the whole world calls me anything other than "John", they are wrong.
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Also here's your scientific proof:"

Hilarious. I'm not even going to read that formula because I know it is wrong, based on the fact that you claim it proves an opinion, which is impossible.

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Quote: "We are now arguing about whether an opinion can be proven as fact or not. "

You're the only one who thinks so. Opinion and fact are completely different things. I'm not stating that an opinion is true, I'm stating a fact which is not based on an opinion.

Quote: "That's not the point. It is a FACT that my parents named me John. It says "John" on my birth certificate. If the whole world calls me anything other than "John", they are wrong."

How can you claim an opinion as fact? It's your opinion that you are called John, but if no one else calls you that then you are wrong.

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Quote: "Hilarious. I'm not even going to read that formula because I know it is wrong, based on the fact that you claim it proves an opinion, which is impossible."


Protip: he's joking.

Also, you would make an excellent troll.

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Quote: "I'm not stating that an opinion is true, I'm stating a fact which is not based on an opinion."


Yeaaaaahhh...
A) Yes you are stating that an opinion is true.
B) That is an opinion, regardless of how many times you say it is not.

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Quote: "Also, you would make an excellent troll."

If I put my mind to it, yes, I cloud be one of the greatest Trolls who ever lived. But I don't want to be a Troll. I use my powers for the side of good.

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Quote: "I know it is wrong, based on the fact that you claim it proves an opinion, which is impossible."


So if Einstein were to claim Netwton's theory of gravitation was incorrect(opinion) he would be wasting his time designing a new theory, because I'm sure he would first get ideas on how things could work(opinion) and then later test them? Besides things like smell can be tested, how do we know animals such as dogs have far more sensitive smell? We aren't that primordial in biology.

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Allow me to quote someone:

Quote: "This topic is now a serious and well organized debate about which is better: Waffles or pancakes."


Now you're saying neither is better? You've contradicted yourself. Really, if you don't want to hear that pancakes are better then don't start a debate about them.

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