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RedneckRambo
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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 20:24
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Quote: "when its obvisuoly not, PC is and always will be"

The PC has more gamers than the consoles, that doesn't make it better.


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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 20:47 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 20:53
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Quote: "Like, saying xbox360 is best, when its obvisuoly not, PC is and always will be."


Wow, that was such a large chunk of hypocrisy.

For somebody who is complaining about people denying factual imformation, you sure are denying a whole hell of it. Who are you to state that the PC will always be better? You suck at arguing.



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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 20:49 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 20:49
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Quote: "The PC has more gamers than the consoles, that doesn't make it better."


Upgradeability/Expandability, so u can have the latest hardware on ur rig.

Not just for games. Used for work/dvds pretty much anything.

And before someone mentions that it has the best controller, you can plug any controller you like into a pc.

Also dont forget there are far more games on the PC. I mean i would like to see a console run crysis. LMAO

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@ General Reed:
If you want to get your point about Halo 3 being overrated, then why don't you give some reasons why.

Do you say the first Halo game was overrated? Tell us why.

And I mean in detail...

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I would like to see you build a PC for $400 that can run Gears of War.
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Quote: "For somebody who is complaining about people denying factual imformation, you sure are denying a whole hell of it. Who are you to state that the PC will always be betteR? You suck at arguing."

And you suck at transfering infomation from your brain to your typing hands. REEEEALLLLLLLYYYYY think about it, On what platform are these games developed? PC. Where do the technology for the consoles come from? Same people who develop the hardware for PC. And by the time the console comes out, the hardware which is developed for it is out of date already. There are many articles online stating why PC will always be the technical leader in terms of platforms.

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What? The "quality" of your argument is degrading rapidly. Go take a nap.
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Quote: "I would like to see you build a PC for $400 that can run Gears of War."

Exactly what I was going to say lol.


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If you want to get your point about Halo 3 being overrated, then why don't you give some reasons why.

Do you say the first Halo game was overrated? Tell us why.

And I mean in detail..."


Ok.

I found halo 1 was a decent game at the time actualy.

Then halo 2 came out. Firstly, the graphics. There Terrible! especialy for the time it came out. I played it all the way through, i simply found it dull and boring, and nothing i saw in the game had not already been done better in another game.

Now halo 3. Played it on me freinds xbox again nothing special. Half-life 2 managed to do all this better, and that came out before hand.

I understand that some people may enjoy it, for its apparently time consuming multiplayer. But as i said at the begining of this argument, i was actualy ASKING what the fuss was about.

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Quote: "I would like to see you build a PC for $400 that can run Gears of War.""

Lol thats not exactly hard. Just the pc, cheap mouse and keyboard to run gow. That is not hard.

The expense comes when u want a decient screen, speaker system.

At the same time, i would liek to see one of you get a console, and try play it without a tv. Lmao.

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Quote: "Probably not in this thread, but ive had conversations with so many people that are confident, xbox360 is superiour"


Quote: "Now halo 3. Played it on me freinds xbox again nothing special."


Then what are you doing in this thread? Nobody cares if you don't like Halo, as this thread is obviously for people who do, myself included.

Quote: "i was actualy ASKING what the fuss was about."


They're fun games, do we really need to go into more detail?


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Quote: "They're fun games, do we really need to go into more detail?
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Wow thanks, someone finaly produced an answer to my original question.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2008 21:05 Edited at: 27th Sep 2008 21:06
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Quote: "At the same time, i would liek to see one of you get a console, and try play it without a tv. Lmao."

You can. Here's an example...
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/xbox-portable-lcd-screen-04183113/


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Lol and how exactly are the gore of gow supposed to transfer from the console, to your eyes?

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Quote: "At the same time, i would liek to see one of you get a console, and try play it without a tv. Lmao."


That made no sense compared to what I asked you. And you would be really hard pressed to find a computer for $400 that could run Gears of War. I doubt one even exists. Monitors / speakers were excluded from the question.
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Quote: "Lol and how exactly are the gore of gow supposed to transfer from the console, to your eyes?"

Wires? Man before starting off arguments you need to discuss to yourself is the argument that much to argue about and so much this arguement is a waste of space.


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Here just for all those non-beleivers out there lol

Case - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=136447- £26.43

2 Gbs 800Mhz ram - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=255300 - £28.95

250gb HDD - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=510721 - £28.65

DVD Rom drive - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=628495 - £10.50

AM2 Motherboard 16xPCI-E - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=827894 - £36.18

7200 256mb Geforce graphics card - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=863095 - £20.30

Finaly processor - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=882982 - £39.00

Total including Post + Packaging + VAT: £199.94 or $367.888

There a complete pc system, under $400, which would run gow with power to spare.

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Wtf are you on about.

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Where's the PSU?

And a GeForce 7200 probably can't run GoW.

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@General Reed - Looks like you're just trying to start a flame war, and doing a pretty good job.


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I concur. Let's all stop.

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Quote: "Where's the PSU?"

It comes with the case.

Quote: "And a GeForce 7200 probably can't run GoW."

Ive run it on a 128mb 6600 AGP, and it runs at about 45fps. This is a pci-e 7200 were talking about. so it should run better.

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Quote: "I concur. Let's all stop."

Ok well i agree, if peepole stop attacking me

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maybe that is because XBoxs aren't a very good developing platform? if microsoft wrote a compiler and editor for "XB++" that you could download from the marketplace and develop directly on the xbox, i'm sure tons of ppl would do it. i know i would. then, u dont have to deal with porting issues.

Quote: "Not just for games. Used for work/dvds pretty much anything."


all you talk about is facts and yet you are spitting stuff out that is just plain wrong. the xbox can do much more than just games. you can video chat with friends, watch movies(that can be downloaded off of the marketplace or dvd), ect. the line between PC and console is starting to blur. there is no point in fighting it.

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Quote: "Not just for games. Used for work/dvds pretty much anything."


Ok i admit, that was incorrect, But there are so many things you can do on a pc which you cant on a console. Whenever i use one i feel confined.

Quote: "the line between PC and console is starting to blur. there is no point in fighting it."

Lol ur being an idiot. Pc's are waaayyyy ahead of any console in terms of performance, expansability and simply what you can do on them. Ive just proved you can buy a pc which can run gow, at a comfortable fps i might add, and thats hardly the top of the pc rung.

Anyway ive had enough of this argument. Xbox boys are always stuborn. I mean seriously the amount of times ive been in class and some xbox clot has started up a debate about how technicly advanced xbox360, When they have limited technical knowlage on the matter is etc is phenomenal

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Actually this is half true, and a misconception. I have a PS3, 360, Wii, and PSP devkit at work so I know. You hook up the 360 devkit to the network and then the build manager deploys the build to the 360 hard drive. Finally Visual Studio runs the game on your 360 to your TV, but you're controlling the IDE from your PC. What I'm trying to say is you don't *just* use a PC to make console games. The PC builds the game and the 360 runs it, along with a few other tools for developers.

Quote: "Lol ur being an idiot"


Let's keep this civil or expect a slap.


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Quote: "Actually this is half true, and a misconception. I have a PS3, 360, Wii, and PSP devkit at work so I know. You hook up the 360 devkit to the network and then the build manager deploys the build to the 360 hard drive. Finally Visual Studio runs the game on your 360 to your TV, but you're controlling the IDE from your PC. What I'm trying to say is you don't *just* use a PC to make console games. The PC builds the game and the 360 runs it, along with a few other tools for developers."

Hmm yes this is true.

Quote: "Let's keep this civil or expect a slap."

Ok sorry Jeku, but sometimes xbox peeps just wont take someone when they have facts against its "superiority".

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Quote: "Do you say the first Halo game was overrated? Tell us why.

And I mean in detail..."

Ok.

I found halo 1 was a decent game at the time actualy."


Lol.

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Quote: "Do you say the first Halo game was overrated? "

You told me to say why halo 1 was overated, when i didnt think it was particularly. As i said at the time halo 1 was a good game. And as i said on that post, i thought the other two were overated.

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Quote: "You told me to say why halo 1 was overated, when i didnt think it was particularly. As i said at the time halo 1 was a good game. And as i said on that post, i thought the other two were overated."


I know. Just the brevity of it after "in detail" was sort of funny.

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Lol i see

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Dude, I don't know what you're trying to do here, but whatever it is, I would stop. jasonhtml said something that wasn't offending at all, it was actually pretty truthful, and you get your panties in a bunch about it. Chill. We're not the problem here.
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All i did was ask what all the fuss was about, Then "The Toasty" asked how i thought it was overated, so i replyed to that. Then as usual on this forum someone didnt like what i was saying, when i was not trying to annoy people, i was just asking a question. That person was "Benjamin". Then people just started attacking me from there.

Do you peeps expect me just to stand down, as if i agree with what your all saying? No why should i. I have a right to stand up for myself.

Serisouly read the first few pages, it will show how my annoyance developed.

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Quote: "Like, saying xbox360 is best, when its obvisuoly not, PC"

But that is an OPINION. Quite clearly you don't understand the concept of Personal Preference.

Nothing is ever "The Best". Its all down to what each person thinks is the best.

What I want to know is why you are coming onto a Forum telling people what to think about the way they play games.
If somebody thinks Halo is the best FPS, then so be it.
No amount of facts or figures can change that in their mind.

I personally hate the new Star Wars: The forced "Unleashed" game. But Others may thoroughly enjoy it. I didn't go into the Force "Unleashed" thread and tell everybody they were fanboys.

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Quote: "But that is an OPINION. Quite clearly you don't understand the concept of Personal Preference. "

Ok then. What i mean is technicly PC is the best, in terms of performance.

If you read the whole thread from the begining, you would see that i SIMPLY ASKED WHAT THE FUSS WAS ABOUT with this new halo. How many times do i have to say this.

God this is annoying.

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Quote: "God this is annoying."

So is coming into threads calling people Fanboys.

Yes the PC has better specs. But that's not what you said. You stated the PC is the best, which is fair enough. But when people challenge you on that, you go around calling people Fanboys.

Fair enough, you don't like Halo. By coming into a thread asking "What is all the Fuss about" and calling the game "Overrated", you are quite clearly trying to stir something.
Also the fact you are getting very aggressive points to the fact you are basically here to start a flame war.

We aren't stupid you know.

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Quote: "So is coming into threads calling people Fanboys."

Well maybe peopele shoudnt be rude?!

Quote: "What is all the Fuss about"

I was not trying to start a flame war, it was a question. In a convosation, if someone said "Hey i got this great new game, halo 3" i dont see whats wrong with the reply "Oh yeah whats all the fuss about then? I played it but wasent all that impessed.". All im asking for there, is why does the person like it. I wasent saying "lol ur an idiot that game is s**t".
Obviously people took this the wrong way, and im sorry about that, tho i still dont understand why.

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No we didn't take it the wrong way. We have all been around long enough on these boards to know what starts a flame war.

This thread isn't about halo, or your opinions on it. There have been plenty of those threads already.
So by coming in here you are clearly trying to stir something.

People were being "Rude" because we have all seen it time and time again.
It has quite obviously started something and we all saw it coming.
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If you think it's a 'fad' or 'overrated' why do you even bother posting here? No one cares."

Benjamin was completely in his right to say that. Probably the most sensible thing said so far in the thread.

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Ok im not arguing about this anymore, What im saying is the truth. It was a question, no more. Its not like i hate halo, just overated by critics. Why would i start a flamewar over something which i dont hate???? Realy think about it.

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Its that damn word again! "Overrated". Just think about it for two seconds. Then you will realize how much of a fool you are.

Nothing is Overrated. If a critic loves it, he loves it. But that doesn't have to reflect everybody's opinion on the game.

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Quote: "- Lol u got that right, what is the big fuss over halo 3? Ive looked at the reviews and played the game and its by far the most over-rated game ive ever come across, tho really we can expect no less from a corpration like microsoft.
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That's hardly the innocent question you portray it to be. So it's not the truth. You fail.
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Ok a critic gives it a RATING, and many people disagree and think its not as good as its told to be by the critic, then its OverRATED!

Its not like im the only one that thinks its overated.

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Quote: "That's hardly the innocent question you portray it to be. So it's not the truth. You fail. "


Well i dont see how its not. A question, and opinion to explain the asking of the question. Simple.

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Quote: "Ok a critic gives it a RATING, and many people disagree and think its not as good as its told to be by the critic, then its OverRATED!"

No its not overrated, because he has rated it based on his own opinion.
If you actually look up Overrated, it says "to have too high an opinion of: the director's role was seriously overrated"
Which I find hilarious.

Put it this way. Half Life 2 is overrated, because somebody out there doesn't like it. So all the reviews are wrong. It should be at most a 6.5 on IGN. I'm sure there is somebody out there who doesn't like it.
Breaking news everybody, HL2 is Overrated. Tell all the reviewers to lower their score.


Hmmmm.................. No.

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Well i just use the word "Overated" the way everyone else uses it

Here this is interesting.
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26138697
63 percent think its overated. Cant be wrong.

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O you really are beyond help. I've just explained to you whey the term Overrated is stupid.

If we collect everyone's personal rating in the entire world for Halo, took an average, then added 5 for no apparent reason.
Then it would be overrated.

Face it General Reed, you are wrong. The more you argue, the longer you make yourself look like a fool.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 00:33
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http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26138697
63 percent think its overated. Cant be wrong."


Do you realize what you're saying? It's overrated because 63% of people think it's overrated. That defies the definition of overrated! It becomes aptly rated when more than half of "raters" say it's overrated!

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General Reed
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Fine im wrong and i dont care. All this started as was a question, i had no intention of having a long winded out argument.

Quote: "Do you realize what you're saying? It's overrated because 63% of people think it's overrated. That defies the definition of overrated! It becomes aptly rated when more than half of "raters" say it's overrated!"

Ok i will be more precise in what i say. 63 percent of the people who took part in the poll, think its overated. Ok its not set in stone as "Overated" but a majoroty of the people THINK it is. As said its all just an opinion.

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Deathead
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I think something is overrated when someone says something is better then a another then gets into arguements(much like this thread)take Halo and GoW both people want to know which is better so both their oppinions are overrated as the other guy might disagree. Over-hyped is a word which was never used in this thread but this is what Halo 3 was, many people got to excited towards the release because of it being the last of the halo series. But really this thread got blew right out of proportion.


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Alucard94
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Posted: 28th Sep 2008 00:41
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You're getting your words mixed up. What people are trying to tell you is that the word "Overrated" doesn't work, since the person making it "overrated" does so since it's his opinion that it is, and you can't really argue a opinion since people like what people like. And by calling things "overrated" you're basically saying that someone's opinion is wrong, which isn't really possible. Stop getting all worked up. Take a chill pill.


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